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library_name: transformers
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[<img src="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/axolotl-ai-cloud/axolotl/main/image/axolotl-badge-web.png" alt="Built with Axolotl" width="200" height="32"/>](https://github.com/axolotl-ai-cloud/axolotl)
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<details><summary>See axolotl config</summary>
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# lustre/fswork/projects/rech/dgo/udv55np/math/Qwen3-235B-A22B/Qwen2.5-0.5B_reasoning/1
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This model was trained from scratch on the None dataset.
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## Model description
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## Intended uses & limitations
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## Training and evaluation data
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## Training procedure
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### Training hyperparameters
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The following hyperparameters were used during training:
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- learning_rate: 2e-05
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- optimizer: Use OptimizerNames.ADAMW_TORCH_FUSED with betas=(0.9,0.999) and epsilon=1e-08 and optimizer_args=No additional optimizer arguments
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library_name: transformers
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- When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/general-reasoning-ift-pairs
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pipeline_tag: text-generation
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# When Does Reasoning Matter?
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<p align="left">
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<img src="https://cdn-avatars.huggingface.co/v1/production/uploads/62be186a5f59ff2320e6e32b/GjJ15tY7-F4bqR96FN4pd.png" alt="Dataset Icon" width="180"/>
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<p align="left">
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<a href="https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.22193" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">
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<img src="https://img.shields.io/badge/arXiv-2509.22193-b31b1b.svg?style=for-the-badge" alt="arXiv:2509.22193" />
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</a>
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</p>
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This model was trained as part of the paper [When Does Reasoning Matter?](https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.22193)
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It belongs to a collection of **General and Math-specific student models** distilled from Instruction-Fine-Tuned (IFT) or Reasoning answers generated by [Qwen/Qwen3-235B-A22B](https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3-235B-A22B).
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<img src="https://huggingface.co/api/resolve-cache/models/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-0.5B-ift/733797fee2fdd300e1a0453d368250327fe4cc44/results.png?%2FWhen-Does-Reasoning-Matter%2FQwen2.5-0.5B-ift%2Fresolve%2Fmain%2Fresults.png=&etag=%22d36dedfbca764a8ac9a7a5ebc043ca53f5ee4966%22" alt="results" width="600"/>
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## Datasets
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These models were trained on the **largest set of IFT and Reasoning answer pairs**:
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- **General dataset**: [general-reasoning-ift-pairs](https://huggingface.co/datasets/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/general-reasoning-ift-pairs)
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- **Math dataset**: [math-reasoning-ift-pairs](https://huggingface.co/datasets/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/math-reasoning-ift-pairs)
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## Available Models
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<table>
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<th colspan="2">General</th>
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<th>IFT Models</th>
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<th>IFT Models</th>
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<th>Reasoning Models</th>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-0.5B-ift">Qwen2.5-0.5B-ift</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-0.5B-reasoning">Qwen2.5-0.5B-reasoning</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-0.5B-math-ift">Qwen2.5-0.5B-math-ift</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-0.5B-math-reasoning">Qwen2.5-0.5B-math-reasoning</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-1.5B-ift">Qwen2.5-1.5B-ift</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-1.5B-reasoning">Qwen2.5-1.5B-reasoning</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-1.5B-math-ift">Qwen2.5-1.5B-math-ift</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-1.5B-math-reasoning">Qwen2.5-1.5B-math-reasoning</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-3B-ift">Qwen2.5-3B-ift</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-3B-reasoning">Qwen2.5-3B-reasoning</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-3B-math-ift">Qwen2.5-3B-math-ift</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-3B-math-reasoning">Qwen2.5-3B-math-reasoning</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-7B-ift">Qwen2.5-7B-ift</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-7B-reasoning">Qwen2.5-7B-reasoning</a></td>
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<td><a href="https://huggingface.co/When-Does-Reasoning-Matter/Qwen2.5-7B-math-ift">Qwen2.5-7B-math-ift</a></td>
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If you use this dataset in your work, please cite: **[When Does Reasoning Matter?](https://arxiv.org/pdf/2509.22193)**
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```bibtex
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@misc{boizard2025doesreasoningmattercontrolled,
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title={When Does Reasoning Matter? A Controlled Study of Reasoning's Contribution to Model Performance},
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author={Nicolas Boizard and Hippolyte Gisserot-Boukhlef and Kevin El-Haddad and Céline Hudelot and Pierre Colombo},
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url={https://arxiv.org/abs/2509.22193},
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