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"poster": 37973206,
"content": "Has anyone else noticed a lot of bible verses read like they're AI generated now? Some of these I don't remember at all from Sunday school... whats going on??"
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{
"poster": 37973225,
"content": "Just awkward translations"
},
{
"poster": 37973264,
"content": "check out a king james translation of a bible verse, if a verse in questions sounds stupid, it's probably some adulteration. 1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) 2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia: 3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: 5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."
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"poster": 37973656,
"content": "are hallucinations just time/reality shifts? or is it over?"
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{
"poster": 37973666,
"content": ">are hallucinations just time/reality shifts? No >or is it over? Never make a thread again."
},
{
"poster": 37973673,
"content": ">>37973666 Fpbp, triple checked with 666 so you know it’s true"
},
{
"poster": 37973683,
"content": ">>37973666 how do I know you aren't lying?"
},
{
"poster": 37973692,
"content": ">>37973666 paranormal gatekeeping is too obvious"
},
{
"poster": 37973979,
"content": ">>37973666 Satan has spoken. Sage"
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{
"poster": 37974111,
"content": ">>37973656 hi fellow Ottawa /x/"
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"poster": 37973700,
"content": "This Man must be Exterminated, or we will not Win. Focus your Intention and Murder his likeness. Break him down to baseline and slaughter his knowledge base. We don't have time to mess around with Boston Pharmacology."
},
{
"poster": 37973714,
"content": "NYPA, retard."
},
{
"poster": 37973723,
"content": ">>37973714 Whatd you just say to me mother? Ni**er, you're DEAD"
},
{
"poster": 37973747,
"content": ">>37973723 Scared to even say nigger? Could not get more obvious you shouldn't be on this site, fuck off forever."
},
{
"poster": 37973758,
"content": ">>37973747 I'm trying to disseminate information to keep you all from dying off, Permanently. I am only here for a short while. The Dragon Bloodline has woken up. Heed my warnings, search your mind deeply, and activate your Sephira System. We have 3 weeks before the End. Goodbye"
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{
"poster": 37974273,
"content": ">>37973758 3 weeks, not 2?"
},
{
"poster": 37974296,
"content": ">>37973700 What does Pete Davidson have to do with the fate of the Universe? Get outta here you clown."
},
{
"poster": 37974747,
"content": ">>37973700 Who?"
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"poster": 37974361,
"content": "What percentage do you reckon are grifters? People seem to really suck this up. Also just wondering since I'm considering a career in ex-satanism (or ex-islam, whichever is more profitable)"
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{
"poster": 37974467,
"content": ">>37974361 ever notice the blurry line between paranormal and conservative grifters? its because both audiences are gullible, low IQ nitwits."
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"poster": 37974546,
"content": "If imu is a girl is athena, if is imu is a boy is janus or alexander the great ,"
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"poster": 37974609,
"content": "When I was a child, I was a much more aggressive and boisterous child. I made a lot of noise, got in fight with many older kids (and got my ass handed kek) and generally had some anger issues, but still it was who I was. I loved screaming at random places just for the sake of it, I broke my toys. I was a shit child, but I should've been that way. Over the early years of my childhood, my family instilled values of \"kindness\", \"mercy\", \"sensitivity\" and \"quietness\" into me. It changed me quite a lot. I am 27 now, mild mannered, don't really like leaving the house, don't have many friends, run away from conflicts, never been in a fight, don't like talking to strangers. For the longest time, I was not able to feel normal anger and show annoyance until it burst out like a volcano. Most times, I would feel no problem with situations that most normal people would likely speak up about. These days though, I'm experiencing a lot of random situations which make me feel like I should be a lot more angrier. I feel like I should nurture a lot more anger, show it openly and even hit people physically. A voice in the back of my head saying I should be gritting my teeth, growling and screaming and threatening people. There is no single event, my life is pretty normal desu. Its just a feeling Do you guys struggle with these issues as well? Feel like your \"real\" personality or what you are meant to be like is suppressed or sealed away a long time ago. There has to be something wrong with this right?"
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"poster": 37974667,
"content": ">>37974609 Welp I guess I want to talk about nurturing anger and aggression inside yourself. I feel like there must be some really powerful physical and mental powers I can get by doing this I'm listening to this song its good >https://youtu.be/ashe_4phX_Y"
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"poster": 37974713,
"content": ">>37974609 Yes I was the same way. Unfortunately my mom and dad beat me instead of helping me channel this energy into something productive. They threatened military school which in hindsight would have been amazing for me but they never followed through. I realize now my dad is a coward in many ways and a fierce competitor in others."
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{
"poster": 37974718,
"content": "I can't say I ever had anger issues. I definitely get what you're feeling though. Like I lost an important part of me in my late teen years. I used to be so imaginative and creative. I have had a block in that for like 25 years."
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{
"poster": 37974788,
"content": ">>37974718 >I used to be so imaginative and creative. I have had a block in that for like 25 years. How old are you right now? What do you think you lost?"
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"poster": 37974814,
"content": ">>37974713 >I realize now my dad is a coward in many ways and a fierce competitor in others. My father is probably the bravest person I know, he literally makes big burly truckers stop their 18 wheelers and beats them up if they drive rash. He has surprisingly low empathy though and cannot empathise how anyone can not be like him. Even weird is how I'm so different that I'm mostly indifferent to whatever other people are doing."
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{
"poster": 37974886,
"content": ">>37974788 Imagination and creativity. I'm 42. It's more than that though. Like there's a part of me(and who I used to be) that has been (for lack of a better word) sealed away. It could be as simple as just growing up. Idk."
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"poster": 37974861,
"content": "Looking for good documentaries or youtube channels that talk about the fae folk. Bonus points if they mention the UFO and Grey connection. So far the best documentary I've found is The Fairy Faith and some stuff on Mr Mythos channel"
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"poster": 179859,
"content": "Terrified of heights but I'm going to force myself to go skydiving next year. Convince me I won't die."
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{
"poster": 179875,
"content": ">>179859 Have done it a few hundred times from airplanes as well as Base jumping. You'll be fine."
},
{
"poster": 179878,
"content": "Statistically it's extremely unlikely that you're going to die by skydiving; I don't know what else to tell you. The beginning will be terrifying and really tough on you mentally but if skydiving is something you really want to do, you'll get through it. The fear will go away surprisingly quickly. Took about a dozen jumps for me. After that it's pure bliss."
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{
"poster": 179879,
"content": "It's not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop at the bottom :^)"
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{
"poster": 179960,
"content": ">>179859 I've only been skydiving once. What nobody tells you is that the scary part is just GOING UP. The plane engine is loud as fuck, and then it gets super cold for no god damned reason. I was wearing nothing but a t shirt and started shivering. Also you can't hear shit, which sucks because I yelled out a stupid meme to my friend as I jumped out and he never heard me. Actually seeing the ground below just feels unreal. The world looks like a hologram, so I wasn't really that scared jumping out of the plane itself because it just didn't look like a threat. I felt somewhat calm. Then I jump out and bc of the unfortunate angle, look DIRECTLY at the sun and get temporarily blinded. I rub my eyes and seconds later I get out of my disorientation and am like, \"WHAT THE FUCK\" and realize I'm actually falling. What a way to spawn back into consciousness lol. Another thing they don't tell you (this doesn't happen to everyone) is that it's hard as fuck to breathe going down. Have you ever had difficulty taking a breath when wind blows in your face? It's like that. So I had to constantly look to my side like I was swimming to take a breath in. Otherwise it felt like I was suffocating. All in all, a 7/10 experience. Would do again, preferably in a warmer climate (not that it would matter much since the jumping altitude will be cold as fuck anyways)"
},
{
"poster": 180291,
"content": ">>179859 There are so many failsafes to skydiving these days. Training and equipment has made it so that fewer than 1 in 20 who die, die because of the parachute failing. They are now dying of heart attacks, swooping accidents (you won't be swooping, don't worry), suicides, and low turns because they are fucking morons. In 2021 I think, everyone who died skydiving died under a fully inflated, properly functioning parachute - they simply made insanely bad choices flying them"
},
{
"poster": 180331,
"content": ">>179859 Why would I ruin the thrill for you by convincing you you won’t die?"
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"poster": 180416,
"content": ">>179859 >see thousands of people do the same thing without a problem >but I'm not like them, I'll surely die! I never understood phobias, are they just stupidity in a different coat?"
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"poster": 180417,
"content": ">The plane engine is loud as fuck, and then it gets super cold for no god damned reason That's normal. Conventional engines are very loud, and the further you go up the cold it is."
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"poster": 180477,
"content": ">>180417 >get closer to the sun >it gets colder You cannot convince me we aren't in a simulation"
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"poster": 180671,
"content": ">>180416 I'm afraid of butterflies but that's probably due to some gay childhood trauma and OCD"
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"poster": 180735,
"content": ">>180291 >fewer than 1 in 20 who die Where are you getting this stat? A 5% death rate of divers is still pretty high imo. >>180416 It's not stupidity. It's just that fear doesn't care about rationalism. Skydiving, or falling from heights in general, activate a very old caveman like fear. Biological remnants of our early evolutionary history. Kind of like shark attacks during surfing. You're probably more likely to die from drowning while surfing than a shark. But the idea of a large man eating predator lurking in the depths unbeknownst to you actives paranoid monkey brain like nothing else."
},
{
"poster": 181586,
"content": ">>179859 I got towed behind a helicopter on my first jump out of jump school in the military. Best piece of advice I can give you: Never worry about airing out that reserve chute. When it doubt, air it out. Also, you'll have a fucking blast."
},
{
"poster": 183056,
"content": ">>181586 You pulled the reserve while you were being towed?"
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{
"poster": 183100,
"content": ">>179859 >Terrified of heights It's so high up that you don't even get that feeling t. terrified of heights but jumped 4 times"
},
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"poster": 186141,
"content": ">>180735 reread again zoomie - less than 5% of those who die, die because of failing equipment."
},
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"poster": 186145,
"content": ">>179859 I've only gone once so I'm not as experienced as other anons, but when I did it I felt separated from the fact that I was falling towards the ground from several thousand feet up. Since it was my first time I was going tandem with an instructor, and I was mainly concerned with the motions they told me to do, rather than the fact that I was falling. Most likely you'll be going tandem with an instructor, so just focus on what they tell you to do and enjoy the view. You won't feel any roller coaster type of acceleration, in fact you really won't feel anything once you're out of the plane other than the wind. Wear something over your face to combat the wind, and put faith in your instructor and the parachute packing, and enjoy it."
},
{
"poster": 186534,
"content": ">>186145 Take solace in the fact that PD (biggest manufacturer of parachutes) said they had their riggers and engineers intentionally try to pack malfunctions so they could use high speed cameras to see how they developed on opening, and 70% of the time they didn't even open wrong. As long as you check continuity, get the slider up, and double stow, you will be fine 99% of the time, and then again 75% of the time you can fix whatever malfunction comes up. I didn't have a cutaway until like my 1400th jump"
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"poster": 187165,
"content": ">>179859 >convince me i wont die statistics, my fren"
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{
"poster": 188148,
"content": "Has ANYONE in any sport been BTFO worse than this fag who ate it?"
},
{
"poster": 190677,
"content": ">>188148 no and by his size, he ATE A LOT OF IT!"
},
{
"poster": 191780,
"content": ">>188148 Lane just nearly fucking died so theres that"
},
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"poster": 191834,
"content": ">>180291 What's swooping? Is that birds flying into you? Do skydivers ever die from birdstrikes?"
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"poster": 191835,
"content": ">>180477 Whatever tickles your pickle, ya meathead."
},
{
"poster": 191912,
"content": ">>191834 swooping is basically initiating a turn low to the ground to gain as much speed as possible before pulling up. If you do it right you can go 40-105mph across the ground If you do it wrong you can do 40-95mph into the ground video here:https://youtu.be/zJf_ZL5nPuc?t =44"
},
{
"poster": 192145,
"content": "Any fun jumpers in here? Any good boogies coming up?"
},
{
"poster": 193145,
"content": ">>188148 lmao the dude who crashed the hot air balloon high as fuck on ketamine"
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"poster": 180616,
"content": "No Flow Edition: Discuss the times you slowed down to scope out a line, then realized you needed a lot of speed to hit anything. FAQ on buying a bike that nobody reads anyway: > What good bike can I get for under $500? >a stolen bike. Possibly a newer used entry level hardtail but don't expect it to survive rock gardens, jumps, or drops. Or an older mtb which won't be as good as newer ones and will still have a front derailleur, but it'll be good enough. > What good bike can I get for under $1000 Good used hardtail, new entry level hardtail > What good bike can I get for under $2000? New Hardtail, decent used full suspension > What good bike can I get for under $3000? https://www.yt-industries.com/fr/pr oduits/velos/capra/uncaged-10-al/60 2/capra-mx-uncaged-10/ Used full suspension, decent entry level full suspension but prepared to put more money into it. > What are the excellent value brands? Marin, Commencal, Canyon, Polygon, YT, Propain, Kona, and many more. Sometimes the expensive brands have an excellent alue bike >> What are the differences between an XC, Trail, Enduro, and Downhill bikes? XC bikes are for going up fast, go down not as fast. Trail bikes are for going up and down. Enduro bikes are for going down fast, and slower up. Downhill bikes are for going down really fast, needs a ski lift, truck, or the rider pushing it to go up. Link to previous thread: >>172497"
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{
"poster": 180680,
"content": "unironically great traction pedalling uphill fresh fork decals held up, and of course turkey globbling from avid brakes. Now I just need a dropper or 375-400mm post and I can be the weird enduro guy with a dh bike. lmao. Last guy who had it battered the rims in mammoth. Was a dream bike for me as a kid, so I am happy."
},
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"poster": 180688,
"content": ">>180680 Can you adjust how far the crowns sit up the fork stauntions ? Like to raise/lower the front of the bike? I owned a DH bike for a bit but desu never looked that close at it"
},
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"poster": 180695,
"content": ">>180616 Does it count if I didn't scope out the line? >Following my buddy down a trail i've never ridden >Coming up on blind jump, he slows down >Was fine on all the jumps before this one >Shouts \"you're good\", then he dodges around the takeoff at the last second >Assuming I'm good, hit it anyways >At the top of the takeoff I see it's a gapped stepdown, and I'm going too slow now >uh_oh.wmv >Nose case the landing, resulting in a separated shoulder At least my bike was ok. I never let him lead again lol >>180688 >Can you adjust how far the crowns sit up the fork stauntions ? Like to raise/lower the front of the bike? Yes, you just need to make sure to leave enough space on the stanchion to not have the lower slam into the crown when you bottom it out"
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"poster": 180707,
"content": ">>180695 Considering you lost your flow, cased a jump, AND got a serious injury yeah it counts. TBQH the guy I rode with the most was equally as safe/paranoid as me so we both scoped out the lines."
},
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"poster": 180769,
"content": "Here's a video the wellington MTB club has put up of the makara peak Enduro. I had hopes of doing this one on my hardtail but it was honestly just too chunky on the hard/long course so I rode my Marin which I'm finally happy with the setup of. I'm actually the last faggot you see before the prizegiving bit of the video, on a trail called deliverence which is a real motherfucker of a trail but probably my favorite of the day. https://youtu.be/jWCkH7baLnY?si=7gZ kC2WabzQ9DFDn"
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"poster": 180775,
"content": ">>180769 Looks fun. You can always do it next year/different enduros on a hardtail."
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"poster": 180787,
"content": ">>180775 Yeah the tunnel gully Enduro is next, it happens to be at the far end of a 20km rail trail over a mountain range from my house ((not directly, il still have to drive 60km to the start point) so I and a bunch of mates are planning on parking at the closer end of the rail trail, riding over and doing the Enduro and riding back. So il do that on the full sus just to be comfortable as it'll be a 60+km day, but the one after that is the polhill/waimepihi Enduro which is mainly smooth/dirt based trails that will be perfect for hardtail."
},
{
"poster": 180893,
"content": "Leaving for Rotorua tomorrow. Broke up with my gf a few days ago so I'll try and pedal my sadness away"
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{
"poster": 180923,
"content": "I hate pinkbike comments, want external routing? Stop complaining and just have it."
},
{
"poster": 180927,
"content": ">>180893 I read this post thinking you had broken up with her to go to Rotorua. Tbh I'm thinking of leaving my missus to go to Rotorua too. Idk how my kids will feel about that. I'm not a homo or anything, but sometimes I reckon it would be a great life just living with your best bud (pretending to be gay, but not actually doing gay stuff) and going riding all the time and just hitting a brothel once a month to get that out of your system."
},
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"poster": 180934,
"content": ">>180927 I've gone through a lot of very positive physical and mental changes over the past couple of years but everyone I know is from the old me's life. I need to find a new group of friends who share the kind of hobbies that I now have. I've become much more outdoorsy but your average MTG nerd doesn't want to go for multi day rides and hikes. If you do make it to Rotorua, I really highly recommend the Forest loop. It's such a nice ride that takes you to beautiful bits of the park you wouldn't otherwise see"
},
{
"poster": 180955,
"content": "Where can I pay a five foot tall redhead girl to beat some sense into me and make me go ride my bike? The wind came, it’s dry now, I have plenty of cozy riding clothing but I’m just not feeling it for some reason, just keep inflating my tires in anticipation then doing nothing"
},
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"poster": 180983,
"content": "> shoulder finally heals after a month of not rock climbing > strain oblique muscles from trying to yank out dropper post after it explodes > take it easy for another week but obliques show no signs of improving > go for an easy ride on the gravel bike after more than a week of not riding since I'm feeling better > oblique muscles get worse but recover when I get home and massage them > do laundry > lift laundry basket > strain muscles even more and now it's the worst it's ever been, even walking hurts in some cases now So much for this being a fun winter break. At least I saw a lot of birds on yesterday's ride. I picked up a new motorcycle on Friday (Ducati Streetfighter V2) and I won't even get to ride it much more due to the incoming rain. It's just not fun if I have to slow down for a corner because it's moist."
},
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"poster": 180984,
"content": ">>180983 take it easy and lift weights next time to strengthen the area you are having issues. Unless you are 70+ you should be able to heal fast enough and do normal things again."
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"poster": 180987,
"content": ">>180984 I'm 31. I've been lucky with dodging injuries up until last month. I went mountain biking shortly after the original oblique muscle injury and I felt fine so I hope it's just the riding position of a drop bar bike that hurts. Lifting the laundry basket really fucked me yesterday, I was improving too. I've actually been doing kettle bell swings and ab wheel rollouts specifically to resist getting more injuries like this. I just did 10 ab wheel rollouts and my oblique felt fine. This is frustrating because I rely on riding to maintain my cheerful and friendly mood. Without it, I go back to being nasty and irritable."
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"poster": 180996,
"content": ">>180987 Having been on antidepressants and seen therapists for various events in my life, nothing comes close to what what riding has done for me"
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"poster": 181026,
"content": ">>180987 I went rock climbing and I feel much better now. >>180996 Riding is definitely good for the body and mind. I'm a much more outgoing and sociable person than I was before. terminally online people always say \"touch grass\" but \"ride a bike\" is more appropriate."
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"poster": 181098,
"content": "took a tumble on some rocky downhill yesterday sisters. The rocks were slippery after a storm. Thankfully my retarded ass learned how to fall correctly and I finished my run and ended the day with a scraped and bruised arm and leg. Bike was ok"
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"poster": 181106,
"content": ">>180996 Based But beware, you do it more and more, you ignore responsabilities to do this and bam you're addicted"
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"poster": 181107,
"content": ">>181098 >Bike was ok Thats all that matters. I worry too much about falling and smash the stanchions with a rock. That could take me out several weeks/months from mountainbiking"
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"poster": 181108,
"content": ">>181107 n+1 bros can't stop winning."
},
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"poster": 181117,
"content": ">>180707 I used to be pretty trusting of other people to not fuck me over like that, I'd even ask randoms that I've met on lifts to tow me into jump lines with gaps if they said they could hit it when I'd go to a new park. I guess I had to learn my lesson the hard way at some point >>180934 Based. Yeah my mtb and mtg friend groups are completely separate but I still make time to hang out with both. I managed to rope one of em into coming mtbing on one of my extra bikes one time, but he says he would rather get exercise by jogging on a treadmill while watching tv lol. The lengths people will go to to avoid going outside are insane"
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"poster": 181120,
"content": ">>181106 I crossed that threshold long ago lol >>181117 I'm still trying to find friends to go riding with. I've properly drifted away from nerd shit and I'm just hanging around with people I have nothing in common with because I have no one else to talk to"
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"poster": 181123,
"content": ">>181120 Just start talking to people on trailheads, go ride down a few trails with them and if you are riding at the same level ask if you can get their deets to go riding other trails with them. I met a lovely Canadian couple today riding down a new, very steep sketchy and slippery trail. I think going out and doing genuinely hard trails with strangers at a similar level does build a relationship."
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"poster": 181160,
"content": ">>181120 >I have no one else to talk to What if I told you that you can just talk to yourself? Muuh therapy? Just go riding and talk while riding. Its tiring to talk about the same mundane shit over and over bc you have nothing in common"
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"poster": 181162,
"content": ">>181120 I've met them just out riding. That and my college MTB club. My main riding friend is the only other person I know who will go do 45mile+ rides with me. I've met with a few others via Facebook groups, discord, and just meeting people out in the woods or bike park lift. Fellow autists, hear my advice. Just talk to people if you want to make friends."
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"poster": 181164,
"content": ">>181120 I find it EZ PZ to make riding friends. I just talk to people out on the trails and then we exchange numbers and make plans to go ride. Last year, all my usual riding friends flaked on a halloween night ride I wanted to do so I made a post on a local facebook group. Only one guy showed up and we've been riding almost every week since. I know where he lives, and he knows where I live now. I've also ridden with people from my rock climbing gym."
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"poster": 181165,
"content": "Ok anons, now that 2023 is over, what's your mtbing new year's resolution? For me, it's transitioning from a clipchud to a flatranny since I haven't ridden flats for years now. And also I need to ride moar since I only got out around once a week this year, whereas I used to get out at least 3 times a week"
},
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"poster": 181169,
"content": ">>181165 how do people even read clips on a MTB If you're at a bike park, you need to have a free legs so you can abandon your bike at any sketchy moment, mid jump or whatever. If you're in the mountains, you gonna do a lot of walking anyway because some trails just aren't rideable. Unless you¨re a gravel tranny who only rides fire roads, using clips on MTB is just stupid."
},
{
"poster": 181172,
"content": ">>181169 At the highest level of extreme downhill they become pretty much a necessity as the normal weighting and unweighting motions aren’t fast enough to keep up with the forces being put out by the terrain"
},
{
"poster": 181178,
"content": ">>181169 I have pretty much never had them not unclip as I was going otb, highsiding, or any other crash. I just run them loose and you clip out as you crash."
},
{
"poster": 181182,
"content": ">>181164 Have you seen his dick yet? Has he seen yours?"
},
{
"poster": 181194,
"content": ">>181182 Yes and yes."
},
{
"poster": 181263,
"content": ">>181169 You just do. Once you get used to them they are extremely helpful. On a hardtail they are pretty much necessity, which is how I learned to ride them. They keep the bike on your feet. Which makes it easier to go faster. If your confidence is low they definitely slow you down. Also any anons have any dirtbikes or dual sports. I'm broke from MTB and am looking at 97-01 dr350se My friend recommended the dr650 and xr650l I want to ride irresponsibly fast on dirt roads and OHV trails. And get some air. Are dirtbikes like MTB in the sense that rider skill is 90% of going fast once you get an entry level bike Or is a dual sport like riding a gravel bike on a downhill course"
},
{
"poster": 181303,
"content": ">>181263 One is a fat soggy lump and the other is a fire breathing piss missile designed to make you shit yourself."
},
{
"poster": 181370,
"content": ">>180923 you can get foam tape cable routing things to make it neater too especially on the head the tube"
},
{
"poster": 181399,
"content": ">>181303 Great, which one will kill me since I have next to no motorcycle experience. Also a photo of my ride today"
},
{
"poster": 181473,
"content": "what kind of FATGRIPS are you guys running? I ordered a pair of PNW grips, but they sent the skinny ones instead of the chodes, and they do not feel good at all"
},
{
"poster": 181483,
"content": ">>181473 I swear I head this exact story on reddit like a year ago… Deity Supracush if you like normal grips that are thick, Wolftooth Fatpaw if you want thicky thick foam-style grips. ODI elite pros were kinda underwhelming; good design but definitely not thick enough. The thinner Deity grips (waypoint?) are good too, that’s what I mostly ran before moving to thick-marketed (supracush) grips. The Wolftooths may actually be too thick (I have the cam version that is slighter less circumference per size than the non-cam versions, and there’s even bigger sizes as well) and there’s the whole existential crisis about moving to plain foam grips with no branding on them…"
},
{
"poster": 181488,
"content": ">>181473 oury. My favorite grips. lizard skin northshore are good too."
},
{
"poster": 181526,
"content": ">>181473 I have a pair of Chromag squarewave XL on one of my bikes I really like. The others have ODI long neck SLX, which aren't as girthy but are much cheaper"
},
{
"poster": 181564,
"content": ">go biking in summer on cheap hardtail >hit jumps and get confident >decide to jump from one jump to another >case it, try again and crash >fall on left side and left crank and pedal severely bent >look on right side of bike >derailleur in half pretty much, spokes bent, chain about to snap, pedal cracked >i didnt even land on the right side and i didnt even kick it >did my parts just implode or something"
},
{
"poster": 181583,
"content": ">>181526 >>181488 >>181483 thanks lads. I ordered a pair of Supercrushers and Deftrap pedals too"
},
{
"poster": 181594,
"content": ">>181370 The frame's basically scrap, it has pissed me off too much for another cent to be spent on it. >>181473 ATV renthal glue ons are a good fat grip."
},
{
"poster": 181605,
"content": ">>181583 The Deftraps are gamechanging, I used to pay $80-160 for my pedals back in the before times, now those $40 pieces of plastic are all I could possibly want"
},
{
"poster": 181608,
"content": "I'm loading up my van with my hardtail and my ebike to drive up to Rotorua in the morning for a couple of days riding, are any other kiwifags gonna be there the next few days?"
},
{
"poster": 181625,
"content": ">>181605 nice, that is great to hear. I was looking at upgrading my current composites to something a little nicer with a bigger footprint and was considering dropping the cash on an aluminum pedal until I saw the Deftraps. I do a lot of rocky downhill and my current composites held up fine to a ton of pedal strikes"
},
{
"poster": 181695,
"content": ">want to try mountain biking >live in Houston, TX am I boned? this place is flat and seemingly devoid of anything natural. fucking bizarre how people live like this, I'm losing my mind in these suburbs cycling past the same house over and over"
},
{
"poster": 181711,
"content": ">>181695 >Houston, TX >am I boned? Basically. You need mountains to do MOUNTAIN biking. Do motocross or go out shooting guns."
},
{
"poster": 181712,
"content": ">>181695 You can make jumps and get into dirt jumping."
},
{
"poster": 181721,
"content": ">>181608 Il just reply to my own post because why TF not? I arrived late into rotovegas because traffic and me forgetting to bring soap, a towel and tomato sauce. So I only got about 1.5 hrs of riding on the torrent today. My verdict is the hardtail fuckin slays on machine built trails. It's a fuckin fast bike. Where it doesn't excel is on chunky trails, as in it will take a single drop but it doesn't like hitting a root on the way down that drop, that unsettles it a bit. I think a lot of this is line choice so on Friday (Thursday is ebike day) I'm gonna go out and try hit some proper chunk on the hardtail and just try git gud. Also I swapped the 38 off my Marin onto my ebike so il have a bit of time setting it up tomorrow as I haven't ridden with it before. It should be close, maybe just need 10psi more and a bit of low speed rebound? It's also had a lower service and green seals since so many need some HSR too."
},
{
"poster": 181731,
"content": ">>181399 Dirt Bikes are for stunting and whizzing around on sketchy ass trails and purpose built trails with features while going reearreeereeerreeereeeah. Dual sports are for long rides on trails which are way the fuck out and would be impossible to ride on with a street bike but you wouldn't be able to carry camping shit on a dirt bike. They'll be less fun for the stuff you want dirt bikes for but more fun for rides that are difficult due to the nature of the terrain rather than due to obstacles. Either way, take it slowly, learn skills and practice the shit out of them and you'll wind up flying around the woods still attached to the bike as opposed to the other way."
},
{
"poster": 181741,
"content": ">>181721 I would just bring the smol shock pump with ya. Oh, and on the hardtail through chunk make sure you run enough pressure and check your spokes every once in a while, especially if you feel a solid \"ping\". Only bike I have ever popped a spoke on with a 26in dh wheel. Chunk on a hardtail is a fun time."
},
{
"poster": 181754,
"content": ">>181695 where in houston? Memorial Park has some trails if you're in town. South side of town you can hit up Lynn Gripon @ Countryside in League City, Jack Brooks in Hitchcock (very rooty and lots of uphill but a good group of guys maintaining it and building trails). Sugar Land and Pearland have some trails and people too but I've never been there. Look them up on faceberg >>181583 pic rel is jack brooks"
},
{
"poster": 181759,
"content": ">>181695 >am I boned? I'm currently stuck in toronto, which is objectively the worst place for mtb (and for living in general), so it could be worse for you. It's basically a flat 1000 square kilometer gigasuburb with what is probably the worst traffic in north america, so it's at minimum a 30 minute drive out to any trails. >>181721 >Il just reply to my own post because why TF not? Based. Hardtails are pretty fun to ride for a change from full suspensions, but I always find the handling while cornering to be wonky because of the changing headtube angle. I wouldn't worry too much about changing the suspension settings unless your ebike is truly a boat. You could probably go with a little less low speed rebound damping since the bike is heavier if anything."
},
{
"poster": 181804,
"content": ">>181741 >>181759 Thanks guys. Il have a look over it a bit later on. I have had quite a few 'tings' but they have mostly been rim strikes as I run quite low pressures (even on my full sus bikes) but I honestly haven't ever thought to check the spokes. I have a DT e1900 on the rear that's had quite a hard life so I'm not panicking about ruining the rim but I should get an insert for it at some point and il definitely keep on top of the spokes. I went out and did 70km on my ebike today, hit all my favorite trails and had a great day but it's now got something sounding like a BB creak from the motor and it's pushing rust colored grease out one of the seals so that might be all the ebiking I do on this trip. Happily, I have still got a bunch of shuttle passes so tomorrow il spend the morning shuttling the hardtail and making what loops I can before driving home in the afternoon. This is one of my favorite trails in the forest, called split enz, it's only a grade 3 but it's 5km long so doing it start to finish fast and without stopping makes for a hard Enduro stage. I did it today, tomorrow I'm gonna go back and do it on my hardtail. https://youtu.be/kY5BpYWORmg?si=ABj QZPbom2-UC5ex"
},
{
"poster": 181805,
"content": ">>181804 Also the 38 performed really well. Super supple but also direct, none of the 'twang' I'd get from my 36es in rooty sections. I didn't actually touch the adjustments, I don't claim to know how to set the grip2 up properly so desu I'd be better off with grip1 but somehow now I own two of them so I probably need to learn."
},
{
"poster": 181890,
"content": ">>181165 Nobody else has any mtb new years resolutions, eh? Old picture, but I just officially put the flats back on my hardtail for the coming season, and they're staying on it all year this time. >>181804 Noice, sounds like it'll ne a fun time, looks like an ideal trail for a hardtail. >>181805 > I probably need to learn. Just do bracketing - repeatedly ride a lap at the bike park you like and change one adjustment slightly at a time. If the adjustment feels better, adjust it further in that direction until it feels worse. Eventually you'll get an intuition about what might work best after you've done this for different courses and bikes. Fox has some good videos on this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPQ njSe6rdw"
},
{
"poster": 181902,
"content": ">>181165 For mtbing? get more into it again, do more dirt jumping(biggest weakness), and ride the harder trails that I used to. >>181890 that picture makes the bike look tall. I too use bracketing for suspension adjustments, and really all wide range adjustments if I have the time."
},
{
"poster": 181960,
"content": "is it possible to take up mtb, judo and weightlifting at the same time?"
},
{
"poster": 181961,
"content": ">>181960 No you can't deadlift while riding down a trail."
},
{
"poster": 182008,
"content": "saw two banana slugs on the trails today. Good day"
},
{
"poster": 182091,
"content": "Any of you high melanin individuals who did their lowers used the new skf dual compound seals? Got a set of the old skf seals but dunno if the new one is better"
},
{
"poster": 182117,
"content": ">>182091 They’re seals, not bushings so it probably means jack shit unless yours are currently cracked and dry rotted"
},
{
"poster": 182138,
"content": ">>182091 I used skf when I overpressurized my dj fork and blew a seal. Worked great, they were just blue."
},
{
"poster": 182178,
"content": ">>182138 The seal you blew would’ve been one of the o-rings in the air shaft, which would lead to rapid decompression into the lowers, which would THEN blow your oil seal. If you didn’t swap/rebuild your air spring shaft then you didn’t fix the problem. The oil seal seals oil, it’s not what keeping your 120psi inside the airshaft"
},
{
"poster": 182179,
"content": ">30+mph winds yesterday >omw to event stadium parking lot, only place I can ride without driving anywhere >struggling to ride, giving it my all and hardly moving >take a turn and wind pushes me off the seat, stumbling to the side >dismount, strangle the bike into the air and nearly smash it I hate wind so fucking much. It's even stronger today, I can hear it raping my window. Holy shit I hate it. Fuck wind. I hate it here."
},
{
"poster": 182180,
"content": ">>182179 you checked the weather, you saw the 30mph+ winds…"
},
{
"poster": 182182,
"content": ">>182180 I ride in spite of it, and because I hate myself. fuck wind"
},
{
"poster": 182201,
"content": ">>182178 I am not taking apart my ancient marzocchi dj2 from 2011 to prove, or disprove you. Works fine now, and it's a coil+air preload system. It's rated for like 50psi or something and I pumped it to my normal air fork pressure(100) and of course it popped off on a jump."
},
{
"poster": 182215,
"content": ">182201 you are a retard who has no idea how his fork works. the minute you said that you replaced your fork air chamber O ring with a dust seal is when you lost your privilege to participate in this gearfagging discussion."
},
{
"poster": 182229,
"content": ">>182201 You can literally pull your oil seal out, it’s not gonna blast you with air you dummy that’s not how it works lol"
},
{
"poster": 182241,
"content": ">>182215 >>182229 >>182178 Here you go I think I won't be posting for a while now."
},
{
"poster": 182242,
"content": ">>182241"
},
{
"poster": 182243,
"content": ">>182242"
},
{
"poster": 182248,
"content": ">>182243 still not the part we are talking about you are talking about the part circled in brown we are talking about the part circled in red."
},
{
"poster": 182249,
"content": ">>182248 forgot to attach"
},
{
"poster": 182252,
"content": ">>182249 I’m talking about a small internal oring on the inner airshaft and how that’s what’s responsible for holding the pressure in a fork, not the oil seals. Not that regularly replacing your oil seals is a bad thing. Sorry for meme image it’s the only half-disassembled fork picture I found in 10 seconds"
},
{
"poster": 182317,
"content": ">>182248 I know that, I am showing there is no airshaft unless I am using the wrong terminology(highly possible). Mine literally just dumps air into the stanchion, and when I gave it too much air and hit a jump 16 puked oil. Thus I replaced it with a skf seal and it worked. >>182252 I don't think that fork has an airshaft. I could be wrong but all I have is that schrader check valve looking piece. Anyways I manage to rebuild my forks when they leak and change fluid so I guess it just works."
},
{
"poster": 182699,
"content": "took the supracrushers and the deftrap pedals out for a shakedown. They are bretty good would recommend"
},
{
"poster": 182729,
"content": "fun day of riding. Santa Cruz holds up well to the rain"
},
{
"poster": 182918,
"content": ">looks ok Seems that /our/ OF pornstar hasn't broken it and actually enjoys riding it. Is canyon actually good? To me canyon is just a retarded YT that does bullshit details like headset routing with a dampening system for the handlebar on bikes that crack or fail. Have they changed? >>182729 Its been almost 2 months since I last rode and I don't see myself riding in the foreseeable future(2 more months) with this gay weather. Looks nice, miss my temperate climate for year round riding."
},
{
"poster": 182931,
"content": ">>182918 any sandy terrain in your area? It's raining here too but there are still some trails and parks that are rideable. I'm surprised that guy wrecked an EVIL Insurgent by shralping a turn or something. The EVIL owners group on facebook was on damage control when that happened. I don't blame him for not wanting to ride his warranty frame. The rear brake on my Wreckoning has been spongy for the past several rides no matter what I do and it has really hurt my confidence on the downhills."
},
{
"poster": 182951,
"content": ">>182931 No, there is snow and its cold outside. My fingers go numb even with winter gloves. Should've used shimano with redline likewater..."
},
{
"poster": 182983,
"content": ">>182918 I see people shredding on Canyon bikes all the time. I personally own a Grizl cf for gravel riding and it's been a great bike that took quite a bit of abuse I gave it"
},
{
"poster": 182998,
"content": "If you're not physically disabled and ride an e bike you are gay and swallow mans cum"
},
{
"poster": 183065,
"content": "-25 c isn't unreasonable weather for riding but i prefer -10"
},
{
"poster": 183210,
"content": "Are gook bearing kits good? This one is 60 yuros. I need to pull 4(four) bearings out to exchange them and the tax evasion mechanic is 11 yuro per bearing, 44 for them. One problem is that I tried to unscrew the dropout pivot but failed, and manual doesn't specify the direction(the linkarm/seatstay pivot was clockwise to unscrew) so I don't want to strip the thread for being a retarded nigger"
},
{
"poster": 183417,
"content": ">>181106 I want to start mtb but I don't have money, will start when I save some money to buy a good bike."
},
{
"poster": 183512,
"content": ">>183210 I have this one. Seems to be good enough. I mean I bought the super cheap Amazon one because there isn't really a way to fuck it up in the manufacturing process. I can go measure a few of them with calipers if you want. Just from their general fit and and my calibrated fingers I would estimate they have around 0.006\" play in the bearing pucks undersized. It doesn't have a thrust bearing on the handles which would be a nice but uncessary touch. I like mine and it's quality is pretty good. The case is cheap but what can you expect for around $35"
},
{
"poster": 183623,
"content": "nooo I don't want it to downpour all week pls no"
},
{
"poster": 183660,
"content": ">>183623 I haven’t ridden in like 3 months because it’s been wet and freezing + not freezing, but I checked Strava and saw that the mega-chad I follow has been putting out rides in the nearby desert so now I think I’m gonna go for it"
},
{
"poster": 183717,
"content": ">>183512 Good enough, I'll probably take it. https://youtu.be/IUsEx6XlH7c?si=J_w 5O9wPU0y_xCYF I'll finally be able to tear the bike down completely and rebuild it with this song repeating nonstop on my garage at 2am with beers >>183660 Rather stay comfy in my bed drinking hot ginger-chamomile tea with honey waiting till spring comes"
},
{
"poster": 183847,
"content": "I'm looking a replacement for my Sram SX cranks. It seems that those are the only cranks that will fit to the powerspline BB. Is powerspline a dead standard by now?"
},
{
"poster": 183855,
"content": ">>183847 >powerspline BB Been dead for a while my man."
},
{
"poster": 183856,
"content": ">>183847 You can get a DUB crankset with a direct mount 32t and matching threaded BB for $90"
},
{
"poster": 183880,
"content": ">>181759 Yeah I ended up running my fork super pumped up with all the reducers in it and it works very well for cornering now but obviously doesn't ride as smooth."
},
{
"poster": 183883,
"content": "> lose 10lbs > Push 11/6 no longer dialed in for my new weight I need to gain 10lbs of muscle FAST."
},
{
"poster": 183928,
"content": ">>183883 >Suspension too stiff Just ride faster m8, it will have the same effect. Simple as"
},
{
"poster": 183947,
"content": ">>183717 Just bought it straight from source, the yellow chinaman, for 28€ instead of 64€. I bet once I open the bag it will have that weird smell chinx have. But I gotta wait like 3 weeks."
},
{
"poster": 184079,
"content": "an easton dagger with risse racing damper and manitou mach 5 shocks just fell into my hands recently. I think the damper and shocks are both seized, what should I do with them? should I just scrap the whole thing or is there a chance I could get this bike up to a rideable standard again."
},
{
"poster": 184111,
"content": ">>184079 Idk how you would get a seized shock unless you have a rusty fork but those suspension parts should be all aluminum. Does it just not move at all. Is there any sign that there was or is oil in it? If it's completely stuck you are probably going to have to get new ones. If it's just dry you are going to have to find new o rings and x rings. Luckily those all come in standard sizes for the most part so McMasterCarr will probably be your friend. But that's a shit ton of work"
},
{
"poster": 184123,
"content": ">mullet >161/167mm travel(shock has a stroke limiter) >extra extra long seatpost insertion length(280mm for S2size and 310mm for S3) >455/475mm reach for S2/S3 >1227/1254mm wheelbase S1/S3 >external routing >1800€ with rockshock ultimate coil >2000€ with ohlins coil >629mm/633mm stack The name reminds me of Airborne Bikes when they did the cool neon yellow DH bike Nice to see bike companies aren't doing retarded shit like canyon. This bike is similar to the privateer 161 or the raw madonna V3 without the excessively gay pricing. This would compete with the sprindrift alu, the alu is ~300€ cheaper than the EDIT MX but never in stock in size M. 2600€ in carbon. It also has a shorter wheelbase at 1216mm and stack 617mm. It doesn't have the tall seatpost that rubs your balls. But the spindrift has 13mm more in rear travel. Nice bike, roughly same pricing for complete between similar specs"
},
{
"poster": 184246,
"content": "Is this a good deal for starting to ride on trails and roads? https://seoul.craigslist.org/bik/d/ trek-marlin/7709665223.html"
},
{
"poster": 184253,
"content": ">>184246 It’s 700000 wingwangs how the hell would we know if it’s a good deal But sure a Trek Marlin will get you around on trails, it’s a standard basic mtb and at least had real components on it, and he is right about XL being more valuable in Asia, make sure the cheap suspension fork it comes with actually still works and make sure the tires are decent condition"
},
{
"poster": 184258,
"content": ">>184253 It works out to be $460 and I was curious if anything looked sketchy in the pictures or if the model had issues."
},
{
"poster": 184269,
"content": ">>184258 That should be around half msrp(in the states) And it looks pretty OEM. Nice that it has hydraulic shimano mt200's and a double(if you like that). Double might be better for road/trail use. I started mtbing on a bike similar but old."
},
{
"poster": 184314,
"content": "Its official, I HATE internal cable routing. Its like trying to put your pp in drunk without hands and only hip movements. Its fucking there but it doesn't want to go in the exit. I'm getting external cable routing next time, this is very gay. I also have a homemade metal hook inside the frame which slipped from my fingers when trying to pull the dropper post's cable."
},
{
"poster": 184319,
"content": ">>184314 Bro grab an allen key lmao do you own tweezers use your brain"
},
{
"poster": 184321,
"content": ">>184314 Worst I’ve ever had to do is drop the fork to route cables. Routing the cable itself first and then pushing housing around it is an option, and of course take a second to figure out which push/pull from which entry/exit makes sense. Some internal routings are just fucking whack through, but with my 2 internally routed bikes it’s never been a huge issue (other than needing to drop the fork). You ever use one of these bolt grabber claw things? It’s worth buying one just in general I think"
},
{
"poster": 184329,
"content": ">>184319 >tweezers >allen key The hole is deeper than it looks, 7mm deep, 8mm in diameter and the housing is further back and bent in such a way it points up. These two aren't going to do shit. >>184321 >Worst I’ve ever had to do is drop the fork to route cables Incredibly retarded bike manufacturers. That looks interesting to have. Used the brain and asked a girl neighbor if she had a seam ripper. So I used that to catch and guide the housing. This is what I use to pull the cables from the port in the downtube, the tape is to prevent it from slipping and getting inside the frame like the other one. But I'm done with IR frames, next one will be external unless it has dedicated tubes in the frame. A 30min job turns into hours because I need to fish some cable"
},
{
"poster": 184335,
"content": ">>184314 >alu frame with icr sorry for your loss, hardly any of them have proper routed tubes like carbone frames do"
},
{
"poster": 184345,
"content": ">>184111 had a stab at it today lad, manage to free them by just taking them apart and pretty much reassembling the entire thing. i'd wager they are dry sooo i'm gonna need to have a look at the manual for them and see what can be done. I'll be honest I know fuck all about bicycles in any capacity, this thing just fell into my hands quite literally."
},
{
"poster": 184361,
"content": ">>184329 Consider the RAAW Madonna. I was looking at getting one because they really wanted to make it easy for the user to service. They make tools specifically for IR frames with no guide tubes. Sure it's more work than external routing or proper cable guides, but it'll save you the money and you won't have to get a new bike"
},
{
"poster": 184377,
"content": "Can someone explain the appeal of internally routed cables and headset routing to me please? I could see the sadistic pleasure frame designers get out of knowing wagies will have to deal with it, but other than that, is it only for aesthetics?"
},
{
"poster": 184389,
"content": ">>184377 As someone with 4 carbon fiber bikes with internal routing and 1 steel bike with external routing, it's for a clean look. I personally don't care and like the greebled look of external routing, as well as the ease of maintenance, but sadly, new CF bikes just aren't made with external routing these days save for a few examples (thanks Transition, RIP Guerilla Gravity). The upside is that once the bike is setup, you don't have to fuck around with the cables much. It also reduces cable rub and you don't have to worry about a ziptie breaking on a ride which happened to me once, but wasn't a big deal. As for headset routing. It's also for a clean look. When it comes to competitive road cycling, I get it because every single watt matters when you're trying to win over a 60 mile course and your livelihood depends on it so you need every aerodynamic advantage you can get. I personally wouldn't get a bike with it, but if I didn't have a choice and I REALLY wanted that bike (hello Chapter2 Toa), I wouldn't be upset since road bikes don't get filthy like mountain bikes and don't require frequent headset service. I would NEVER get a mountain bike with headset routing. It's so fucking stupid. You don't need the marginal aerodynamic gains and MTBs require much more frequent service and you're likelier to swap out components so it's nothing but cons. The only pros I can think of are that it's now impossible for a stray branch to grab a cable but do you really worry about that? As far as the style, I don't like it either. I don't think mtbs look better with the cockpit cables tucked away The real cringe thing about headset routing is that the brands pushing it use cheap ass ACROS headsets and they're FUCKING GARBAGE. If you had a quality headset from Cane Creek or Chris King, it would be easier to stomach, but ACROS are known for being cheap shit that feels bad and requires servicing after a few rides. If you ever get a Canyon, expect it to be the first upgrade you do."
},
{
"poster": 184403,
"content": ">>184123 Airdrop is based, colour is so good too"
},
{
"poster": 184452,
"content": ">>184361 I did but the V3 is quite pricey. 2800€ for the frame alone WITHOUT a shock. 3500€ if you want the ohlins coil shock. Compared to 1800€ with shock and 2000€ for ohlins. The difference is that you can modify the geometry of the V3 while 0(zero) on the EDIT MX."
},
{
"poster": 184585,
"content": ">>184345 Good luck anon https://www.amazon.com/Slickoleum-F riction-Reducing-Grease-Tube/dp/B07 RXDMNSH/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1N53IQA SI73BJ&keywords=slickoleum+grease&q id=1706508677&sprefix=slickol%2Caps %2C316&sr=8-3 If you want to grease it this is the grease. Doesn't really matter what brand as this is just regular suspension grease. I makes sure that the suspension is extra slippery and absorbs bumps better"
},
{
"poster": 184673,
"content": ">>184585 I'll try and get some photos of the bike and the parts up over the weekend or when I can. I may have damaged the damper in the suspension the other day when I removed it from the headtube but I dunno. I appreciate this anon"
},
{
"poster": 184675,
"content": "best way to remove dried mud from tire treads?"
},
{
"poster": 184680,
"content": ">>184675 nvm just scrubbed it out with a dish brush and some soapy water, lot easier than I thought to get that sticky mud out lol"
},
{
"poster": 184683,
"content": ">>184673 No problem anon. Hope you get it running good soon."
},
{
"poster": 184688,
"content": ">>184683 with the help of god I will. I am literally nose diving into this stuff, I can barely cycle to the end of the road without suffering an asthma attack."
},
{
"poster": 184921,
"content": ">>181263 I would not recommend a dual sport for your first trail bike they are heavier and the geometry is different for riding on roads. It will teach you bad riding technique. MTB skill does transfer over to dirt bikes but they have some key differences. On mtbs going up hill is hard and down hill is fun it is pretty much the opposite on dirt bikes. Dirt bikes have a much lower seat that doesn’t move but the ground clearance is about the same of more because they are designed to be ridden standing up. The only time you sit down on dirt bikes is when going around a tight corner. This is advice for enduro riding btw i don’t do the track"
},
{
"poster": 184922,
"content": ">>184921 Also a 650 is way to big for trails unless you are doing a big adventure ride. 350 is too big for a beginner too. If you want to ride single track all you need is a 200 2 stroke or a 250 4 stroke. 2 stroke is better for enduro but 4 stroke has engine braking and requires less maintenance but it’s harder to do when you need to do it"
},
{
"poster": 185062,
"content": ">he depends on a torque wrench and not a calibrated wrist never stripped a thread btw"
},
{
"poster": 185065,
"content": "anyone get autistic over suspension oil the 2,5w motul fork oil that i use apparently has really shit viscosity index (112), this shock oil in my damper cartridge would make the fork constant as the temperature changes outside right"
},
{
"poster": 185092,
"content": ">>185065 In theory yes and also when you heat it up during long descents. This one has a lower viscosity at 40°,13.1cst than the 15 cst of the motul one. So it might want to run a bit more air or compression. >anyone get autistic over suspension oil On the fork damper I'm running biotech, the mechanic showed me the picture behind the bottle that showed one line for biotech which showed a flat line and a second which was steep for the \"standard oil\". All without values but it was enough. It kept up consistent on the nonstop 1500 m D- trail, felt good during racing and no problems overall."
},
{
"poster": 185123,
"content": ">>185065 I'm too lazy to actually do any of the calculations, but it looks like viscosity index when it's over 100 is not linearly related to the change in viscosity with change in temperature, so the difference is probably not large enough to spend extra money on."
},
{
"poster": 185142,
"content": ">>185065 I run motul since I got a good deal on it at an auction"
},
{
"poster": 185159,
"content": ">>185123 looks like it would be 26 cst@10 c instead of 67 cst@10 c like the motul https://www.tribonet.org/calculator s/viscosity-index-calculator/"
},
{
"poster": 185163,
"content": ">>185159 motul 2,5w: 29cst@25 c -> 67cst@10 c putoline 3,5w: 18cst@25c - > 26cst@10 c the high vi also makes it a lot lighter in normal temperature too"
},
{
"poster": 185214,
"content": "One week and 2 days to arrive all the way from gookland, I'm impressed by the yellow individuals. I expected 2-3 weeks and up to a month"
},
{
"poster": 185833,
"content": "Did a 70 mile ride on the trail bike yesterday, furthest I've ever ridden. Idk how roadies do this shit for fun"
},
{
"poster": 185947,
"content": ">>185833 It's fun on bikes that are actually for that kind of riding. 4500ft of climbing is a decent ride on a dropbar bike, but tired the fuck out of me when I did it on my heavy full squish enduro bike. On that trail system, we have to ride downhill on a road to get back to the trailhead and both sets of tires I've had there, Michelin Wild Enduro, and Maxxis Dissector and Assegai, were incapable of doing over 20mph with that gradient, meanwhile, roadies were zooming past us without pedalling."
},
{
"poster": 185961,
"content": ">>185833 >how roadies do this shit for fun Its not fun. Why do you think they are always frustrated? I bet its all due to the estrogen in the lycra"
},
{
"poster": 186029,
"content": ">>185833 Road bikes are REALLY good on the road, don’t forget to point that out whenever someone makes fun of your small ride on a big heavy tank bike on undulating dirt"
},
{
"poster": 186053,
"content": ">>185833 I treat it like working out+fun. MTBing is just different and more about skills or hard efforts. Where as most road riding is more of a longer effort. Just a different mindset for me. I also don't relate to modern mtb's anymore."
},
{
"poster": 186121,
"content": ">going to change bearings >dropout bolts unreasonably hard to remove >unsure whether CW or CCW as other bolts in the frame are either CW or CCW >nothing on manual >To not fuck things up message norco for help >he tells me they should all be CW, asks to know which ones are CCW >tells him which >his last reply How tf am I supposed to know, I didn't build nor design the bike. Guess I'm stripping threads."
},
{
"poster": 186158,
"content": ">>185833 Road bikes are made for distance and speed."
},
{
"poster": 186333,
"content": ">>186121 I like to personally take everything apart on a bike to know what does what. Your situation is the thing I try to avoid. Most things are righty tighty unless the usual operation of said thing is counter clockwise like pedals. Bearings are more like a back and forth motion than continuous spinning, so there's no real reason they would be CCW"
},
{
"poster": 186338,
"content": "Ok fags so I had a retard moment and sold my spare 36 rhythm for $300 just before Christmas for food and booze money. Now I have this real urge to cook convert my 36 perf to coil but I want to use the marzocci kit but it's cheap and only has 4 springs to choose from. Do any fags on here know if the marzocci coil kit only fits Z1/36 rhythm or if it can fit a standard 36 as well? I realize the two have different air shaft diameters, but is that a problem for the coil? Does it just go in the hole and work or is there something that needs to slide in that bore and actually needs to touch the sides?"
},
{
"poster": 186414,
"content": ">>186333 I've teared down nd rebuilt my bike completely except the main pivot and the dropouts. The main pivot I know it CCW to unscrew but I haven't managed to move the dropouts. I bought penetrant wd40 as other pivot bolts where overtightened when I first worked with them, I'll see if that works and the gook bearing shit I bought."
},
{
"poster": 186628,
"content": ">>186121 >Tfw I had a similar problem with my frame, but the first person I got to speak to is the brand owner and he offered to have the whole rear triangle replaced free of charge for my trouble of one stuck bolt >>186333 Some of the pivot bolts on my frame are threaded the right way, but separate from the other half by screwing cw."
},
{
"poster": 186632,
"content": "I just found out the master farmer girl is kinda cute and now I’m too nervous to pick her pocket"
},
{
"poster": 186700,
"content": "A bike with >2.83 initial travel leverage ratio( 2.74 at 30% and 2.2 at the end. 167mm total travel Or >3.05 initial travel, 2.95 at 30% and 2.2 at the end , 180mm Split with these, both would use coil. Is 0.22 a difference to be felt? Especially as it has more travel? Softer. I'm a very light rider"
},
{
"poster": 186772,
"content": "I cant get the slickoleum grease for forks What alternatives can i use, regular white silicone or lithium grease??"
},
{
"poster": 186797,
"content": ">selling wheelset on jewbook >girl messages asking whether the rims are set up for tubeless >yes they are >she says shes budgeting for new wheels for her hardtail (noob rider) >ask her what else she needs to know >conversation devolves into explaining hub to wheel compatibility (which isn't even a thing, but you know women) and spoke length >ask her what the hole count on her current hubs are >\"I count 8\" >wtf it can't only be 8 >\"its 8. but on the other side there are 8, so 16\" >what thats still too low, did you include both flanges? >\"yeah I did\" >ok send me a pic >she only counted the spoke heads on the outside of the flanges >she completely ignored the spokes facing in >\"ohhhhh lol silly me\" She's lucky I expect women to be retarded >>186414 >I've teared down nd rebuilt my bike completely except the main pivot and the dropouts. Thats kinda what I mean. I took my brand new frame apart to see what would happen, so I won't be surprised the first time I have to service everything. I'm guessing you bought used?"
},
{
"poster": 186798,
"content": ">>186797 *hub to rim"
},
{
"poster": 187011,
"content": ">>186797 Not that anon but every used bike I get I am going to completely strip and rebuild the entire thing making sure to torque and loctite every single pivot. Not that I am ever going to buy used as I break pretty much everything on my bike and having a warranty keeps me from buying 2 used frames and just buying one new one, same applies to every other component as well. Anybody else notice that shimano SPD get looser over time. A used Shimano pedal has significantly less preload than a new one when using new cleats. It's made worse by the fact that when you run the pins at full height eventually you are just left with a bald spot on your shoe and they no longer bite. Pic unrelated"
},
{
"poster": 187015,
"content": ">>187011 >spd get looser over time I ended up tossing some old shoes since the engagement was getting weird. Tried new cleats, different spd pedals, and different tightness. I don't wear stuff out generally so I thought it was odd."
},
{
"poster": 187093,
"content": ">>187011 >Anybody else notice that shimano SPD get looser over time. A used Shimano pedal has significantly Not an issue bc flat pedals win metals You also got a crackhead doing a fentafloyd maneuver in that seat."
},
{
"poster": 187153,
"content": ">>187093 I am aware that flat pedals don't have this problem. I also run my clipless pedals at max tension and I think that contributes to the problem. Pic related for the difference between mineral and regular oil. Since there was that discussion about redline like water a while back"
},
{
"poster": 187195,
"content": ">bottom bracket replacement >brake bleed x4 >fork lower service >no seriously, fork lower service >tubeless sealant refresh I have exactly one month before my next big trip but I’m just so god damn lazy"
},
{
"poster": 187248,
"content": ">>187153 I haven't gone autismo for where they come from >3 oils I've put on my brakes From left to right, viscosity @40C|@100C| and viscosity index >18 CSt || 6.3 CSt || 355 >8 CSt || (4.68- 2.8) CSt || 700-237 >4 CSt || 2.34 CST || greater than 800"
},
{
"poster": 187277,
"content": ">3.6 initial leverage ratio+coil for max grip >if you overstroke you get 175mm of travel >mullet >long wheelbase >good stack >short steep seatpost >240mm insertion in size p1 260mm p2 >2200€ with air shock Giga con >incredibly retarded top tube Why the would they ruin a bike with incredibly stupid stuff? They could've just left it straight!"
},
{
"poster": 187280,
"content": ">>187277 Because all of the clowns are demanding 11 inches of dropper post from any new bike released. Next question?"
},
{
"poster": 187282,
"content": ">>187277 They want people who have shorter inseams to be able to ride an XXL frame. Me? I have the opposite issue. I like small frames and have a long inseam so I am stuck with 375mm+seatposts 24/7. I am the retrogrouch mtber"
},
{
"poster": 187283,
"content": ">>187280 >11 inches of dropper post from any new bike release Rightfully so There was no need for a horrible top like that, just make it flatter"
},
{
"poster": 187284,
"content": ">>187282 You can just put a longer dropper post and pull it up...."
},
{
"poster": 187512,
"content": "you can spend a surprising amount of money and still have an absolute shitwhip"
},
{
"poster": 187520,
"content": "> finally over pneumonia > weather still shit and getting worse No idea when I'll get back to mountain biking. Trails are already saturated and there is a new storm coming. I don't think I've ridden any of my mountain bikes since the first week or two of January. I've barely had the chance to ride my gravel bike on the road as it is since I've been sick during the few good weekends we've had. Good times are coming again."
},
{
"poster": 187527,
"content": ">>187277 What's the problem with the top tube? I always liked knollys because of the bent top tube"
},
{
"poster": 187538,
"content": ">>187527 Some people just really hate the look. My friend acknowledges that the Ibis DV9 has everything he's looking for in a hardtail, but he can't get over the bent top tube"
},
{
"poster": 187586,
"content": ">>187527 > Or looks like it hit a wall and got bent. >>187538 All Ibis bikes(except HD6) just look disgusting overall. They come straight out from one of Dr. Seuss's books. Horrible bikes"
},
{
"poster": 187620,
"content": ">>187538 I think it offers more flexibility to cram a water bottle or other accessories into the frame. Color scheme is more important to the look of a bike than a tube A car can look amazing or shit depending on the paintjob"
},
{
"poster": 187726,
"content": ">>187586 >>187620 I don't mind the styling of their bikes. the bent top tube doesn't matter to me. Having said that, the straight top tube of my Yeti Arc that forms an unbroken straight line from the headtube to the rear axle makes my pp hard. Fuck I miss riding this bike but I've been sick and the storms have btfo the trails. I'm going to see if my squad is up for making the drive to Fort Ord where Sea Otter Classic is held. Apparently the sandy soil there holds up great to rain"
},
{
"poster": 187742,
"content": "I think bent top tubes look good on full squish but not hardtails (except mondraker they're all yucky)"
},
{
"poster": 187751,
"content": "For me, it's the convex bent top tube"
},
{
"poster": 187815,
"content": "You faggots are going to watch Hardline aren't you?"
},
{
"poster": 187843,
"content": ">>187815 I only watch vital mtb RAW. I don't see big slopestyle jumps because I can't do big slopestyle jumps. I rather watch bikes getting abused slowmo in tough terrain and 2011-2014 mtb edits"
},
{
"poster": 187852,
"content": ">>187751 Awful"
},
{
"poster": 187889,
"content": "Has sram finally made proper brake capable of braking? Will these defeat the power king shimano Saint? The calliper looks like a box and the lever would be better in black. Gooks over in japan are staying behind in transmission and within the realm of possibility, brakes"
},
{
"poster": 187903,
"content": ">>187889 I’m sure they succeeded in making a directissima clone, there’s a lot people trying to clone it right now (and with trickstuff on like 4-year waiting list, rightfully so)"
},
{
"poster": 187912,
"content": ">>187815 Probably, though let's see if I even remember to (I'll most likely forget)"
},
{
"poster": 188106,
"content": ">>187912 Let's go Ronan!"
},
{
"poster": 188117,
"content": "Top fucking kek, inner race was stuck in the axle and it came with it. And the outer race is stuck in the chainstay. Fml"
},
{
"poster": 188142,
"content": "Afternoon MTB-ers Thinking bout getting a 4x4 in the future, are there any 3 doors that will comfortably take a bike on the inside? (No more than front wheel removed) Also some offroading capability (diff locks etc)"
},
{
"poster": 188207,
"content": ">>188142"
},
{
"poster": 188211,
"content": ">>188106 Welp I forgot that australia is a day ahead. I planned to watch it tonight"
},
{
"poster": 188213,
"content": ">>186700 Checked. >Is 0.22 a difference to be felt? Yes, you will likely be able to feel the difference, but you'll get used to either after a few rides, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. It's too bad frame designers stopped making frames with adjustable leverage curves so you could easily see for yourself. The more linear one will feel soggy because you need to use more compression damping to dissipate some of the energy that would be stored in the spring to prevent bottom outs. >Especially as it has more travel? You can more easily get away with a more linear curve with longer travel, but if you're regularly going fast enough to use full travel, you'll still notice the difference. > I'm a very light rider That shouldn't matter unless you're so light that you need a custom tune on your shock >>187843 >I only watch vital mtb RAW Here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZW WzTRtb9E >>188142 >Thinking bout getting a 4x4 in the future, are there any 3 doors that will comfortably take a bike on the inside? Why not just get a small pickup?"
},
{
"poster": 188216,
"content": ">>188213 UK so not all that common, plus you cant be dogging in a pickup bed and not get cold Thats speaking as if I acc have a gf rip Also 4x4 means greenlaning possible too"
},
{
"poster": 188219,
"content": "Went mountain biking today for the first time since January 10(been sick and the weather has been bad). I didn't take any pics but I got separated from my group and went down this trail instead. It was pretty fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPp QOl74Lxk It was really wet and covered in debris unlike this video. The video doesn't show it well but this has several steep sections where you go down roots. Really fun, I hope I can find it again."
},
{
"poster": 188226,
"content": "I haven’t touched my bike in 5 months should I flip it upside down overnight before riding it tomorrow morning"
},
{
"poster": 188290,
"content": ">>188226 if you're a boomer yes otherwise no"
},
{
"poster": 188302,
"content": ">>188290 Im 31 but bike is the hottest and sickest shit from 2022 though, and marzocchi bomber Z1’s don’t come with foam rings from the factory for some reason"
},
{
"poster": 188303,
"content": ">>188302 If they had the foam rings, they'd be the equivalent of FOX forks and then FOX wouldn't be able to charge more for the FOX brand because they're better."
},
{
"poster": 188391,
"content": ">>188303 I’m pretty sure they sell Rhythm 36 w/grip for the same price as Z1’s w/grip"
},
{
"poster": 188411,
"content": ">>188391 I didn't know you could buy a rhythm I thought they were OE only. Also thought it was only the z2 that had no foam rings and the Z1 did have them. Maybe I'm wrong on both points"
},
{
"poster": 188549,
"content": ">>188213 >Yes, you will likely be able to feel the difference, but you'll get used to either after a few rides, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. And you'd feel it for the better right? For charging dh."
},
{
"poster": 188624,
"content": ">>188549 >And you'd feel it for the better right? For charging dh Depends on which you prefer. Go with the progressive linkage if you like getting more speed out of pumping transitions/berms and having an easier time hopping over rough sections. Go with the linear linkage if you prefer a more planted feeling on hits that use a lot of travel. Ideally you'd have tried bikes with different linkages to have felt the difference yourself, but you'll get used to riding either pretty quick, so I wouldn't sweat the decision too much. Other factors like fit and geometry will play an infinitely more important role in how well the frame works for you."
},
{
"poster": 188696,
"content": ">360 for bomber z1 >570 for fox 38 grip2 Is the grip2 and chassis worth the extra 200? I already have a z1 and really like it, but I'm buying this one for a big pig of an ebike and I can't tell whether the stiffness of the 38 is a marketing meme or actually noticeable at 170mm"
},
{
"poster": 188702,
"content": ">>188696 I’ve tried a zeb in 180mm and the stiffness was really not a big selling point over my Lyrik 180mm"
},
{
"poster": 188719,
"content": ">>188624 So on this case the 161 should be poppier compared to the edit. Though as you said other factors like fit geo affect more. I can see this as the medium 161 has a reach of 470mm and the edit the standard 455mm. 30mm longer wheelbase. Higher stack. Larger overall but p1 would feel cramped due to the steep seat angle. I'm probably just overthinking it."
},
{
"poster": 188752,
"content": ">>188696 I recently swapped my 36 rhythm for a 38 grip2 on my 25 kilo ebike, so basically exactly the situation you are in. If you notice the 36 'twang' on nose down drops or the noodle feeling it gets on fast rooty sections, where it feels like the front wheel dances all over the place,you'll appreciate the difference the 38 makes. I guess wheel stiffness could play a big part in that too, if you have a more compliant front wheel you might not notice it so much."
},
{
"poster": 188753,
"content": ">>188752 I should say the 36 was 170mm which probably massively contributed to the twang while the 38 was 160 so that could have been some of the difference too. Maybe 170mm is too long for the base 36 on a heavy bike? I don't know."
},
{
"poster": 188808,
"content": "Had to get out and ride before we get another 4 days of wind and rain"
},
{
"poster": 188973,
"content": "I'm absolutely fizzing tonight because my friend and I have decided on an absolutely fuckwit-teir day of driving tomorrow to pick up my ebike from the shop in taupo that rebuilt the motor and go do a turbo lap of the whakarewarewa forest in roturua then turn around and drive home. 5.5 hrs driving each way is gonna suck but I love Rotorua so much I'm fuckin excited."
},
{
"poster": 189056,
"content": ">>188973 Why ebike? Do you atleast rope other riders?"
},
{
"poster": 189062,
"content": ">>188719 >So on this case the 161 should be poppier compared to the edit. >I'm probably just overthinking it. Yes and yes. You can autistically obsess over suspension design as long as you want, but it won't really make you any faster unless you're switching from a linkage that is truly fucked. Pro riders switch teams (and frames) all the time, and are still competitive. >>188808 >>188973 Based. I wish the conditions here weren't slush and crusty ice so I could ride too."
},
{
"poster": 189067,
"content": ">>189062 Good times are coming. Do you at least have snowsports where you live? If I lived in a snowy area, I'd at least switch over to skiing if I lived somewhere like Lake Tahoe."
},
{
"poster": 189069,
"content": ">>189056 Umm... Because I want to? I just finished up a 42km ride and have a 5 hour drive home ahead of me, of course il ride my fuckin ebike."
},
{
"poster": 189098,
"content": ">>189056 Let him drive his bicycle to an auto shop in another city to have the engine rebuilt so he can drive 6 more hours to bring it to a chairlift that will carry it up for him while paying 6x as much for the privilege he ain’t hurting you"
},
{
"poster": 189099,
"content": "What’s the first step of troubleshooting when your bike won’t turn on?"
},
{
"poster": 189100,
"content": ">>189099 Check the button cell battery in the back of the display if it's a bosch"
},
{
"poster": 189101,
"content": ">>189067 >Do you at least have snowsports where you live? Technically yes, but a combination of it being retardedly expensive for what we have (~$100 cad lift tickets, a 2 hour drive each way, hills with < 200m elevation, and 30 minute lift lines), and the weather not allowing a good snow base to form on the hills has made it so I have not done any snowboarding here for the past few years. There isn't any snow on open fields, and the local forests just have crusty snow/slush/mud depending on if it's above or below freezing, all of which are horrible conditions for xc skiing or biking. I've gotten too comfortable with being lazy about leaving here. I really need to ramp up working on getting out of this miserable place before I lose it."
},
{
"poster": 189124,
"content": "People always say check your bolts before every ride and you know what, they're fucking right. It'll save you so many headaches. Last weekend, my crank came loose and some grit got in there so I had to take it apart, clean it, and put it back together on the trail which wasted a lot of time and it was hard since I didn't have my repair stand, I could have tightened it at home since I hadn't checked it in a long time. It doesn't even take more than a minute or two to check all the bolts on your bike, most of them are 4 or 5 mm hex keys anyway. Also, if you guys have AXS and have mysterious connection issues that don't appear in the app, just try cleaning the battery connections on the RD and battery. I never cleaned them on my bike after over 130 hours on the bike and I had really annoying issues the past two times I rode that I thought were software issues. I just sprayed some rubbing alcohol on the connections, wiped them off, and my last ride was perfect. I didn't even think it was the connections because they didn't even look dirty."
},
{
"poster": 189146,
"content": ">>189124 I broke a frame from not reloctiting and torquing all of the pivot fasteners when I bought it. I rode it for months then one day a pivot bolt wandered out at the bike park and then I had a broken rear triangle from a company that had went out of business. This is solid advice I'm in Florida for spring break, I didn't bring my bike would be worth it. Didn't really think that it was worth brining after looking at the trails."
},
{
"poster": 189160,
"content": ">>189124 Most of us learn the hard way....."
},
{
"poster": 189301,
"content": "I just got a pair of freeeriders, but they seem to have a soft finish on them that would get caked in irish muck. Should I send them back for the pro version which seems like a smoother finish and would stay cleaner, or the hi top fully waterproof ones?"
},
{
"poster": 189304,
"content": ">>189301 The normal freeriders can withstand light mud or very light rain. And it takes a while to get them damp, and they'll dry off if thats it. Dunno about the EPS version. I no longer go out on very wet days."
},
{
"poster": 189305,
"content": "The DH22 needs BIGGER and LARGER sideknobs, like those on the Wild enduros. I need to motocrossMAXXX. And I need the DH34 with the racingline logo/DH casing and the hard GUM-X rubber from the bike park version."
},
{
"poster": 189306,
"content": ">>189304 EPS is for cold conditions, I don’t think it’s water”proof”, he’s probably talking about the GTX trailcross ones with goretex, which I have and are indeed 100% waterproof. But if it’s not cold then who gives a fuck just be wet lol"
},
{
"poster": 189311,
"content": ">>189304 Hmm that is an issue. Heavy mud and rain are on the cards. I ride no matter the weather unless it is awful, otherwise I'll never ride."
},
{
"poster": 189617,
"content": "I want to apologise to the Anon which asked about mounting conti tyres onto a rim a few threads back, put on an argotal dh casing yesterday and ended up bending all 3 of my tyre levers in the process of putting it on. I had forgotten my technique which I used last time so ended up spending much longer than needed. By far the easiest method I found is having the rim within the tyre and then folding the tyre onto it from the inside, putting it on alone seems borderline impossible from the outside. I wish I had bought it 6 months ago now instead of using my kryptotal during the worst of the winter weather as its so much better at shedding the mud and keeping traction on off camber mud and roots. >>189311 I used freeriders for 4 years in the the north of the UK and during winter I would use sealskins socks as well with them, they ended up just becoming waterlogged and were pretty horrible in the wet. They also took forever to dry, even next to a dehumidifier they would take a couple days to dry, so I ended up getting some crankbrother mallet e's. They are more water resistant than waterproof persay but the difference is night and day and my feet are kept dry unless there is a super deep puddle."
},
{
"poster": 189662,
"content": ">>189617 Apology accepted. The strange thing is that those Kryptotals were the hardest fucking tires I've ever mounted on one set of wheels, but when I mounted a pair on my hardtail's wheelset, it was the EASIEST mount I've ever done and nearly effortless. Both pairs were the trail casing."
},
{
"poster": 189663,
"content": "I will not apologize to people who struggle to mount tires"
},
{
"poster": 189766,
"content": ">>189663 Maxxis or Michelin fag detected"
},
{
"poster": 190065,
"content": "Trails were so dry today that I didn't have to wash my bike after my ride, probably the first time since September. I ended up riding twice as many trails compared to normal because of the weather and not getting constantly splattered with mud. I also tried changing fork settings removing around 4psi, adding in a token and fully opening rebound which felt so much better. However I might end up adding some more air/compression which I will test at some point."
},
{
"poster": 190072,
"content": ">>190065 Test it with 3/4 LSC closed, HSC open or 1 click and open rebound. That's what I'm running, runs smooth and keeps me high in the travel. Will ypu get the new EDIT MX?"
},
{
"poster": 190087,
"content": ">>190072 I will have a try next time I'm out, I think my fork is probably overdamped for my weight as im ~60kg fully kitted. Will just have to test on my next ride and take my shockpump to do some bracketing. I ummed and ahhed about the mx but I think I will probably run this frame till it breaks and then either get a raaw, airdrop, atherton or a random frame on sale. Airdrop moved to trunnion mounted shocks which I'm not too confident in as there seems to be quite a few issues with them and frame alignment, which probably isn't great for a cheap alloy frame. My frame has some of the worst alignment of a gusset at the seat tube think I've ever seen on a bike so doesn't fill me with confidence but they might have improved QC/changed suppliers since mine was built 7 years ago. I also have a bitmap from them and that definitely is better built but it's a hardtail so much harder to get wrong. The edit I have currently is a gen 1 medium which I've drilled a hole in the bottom of the seat tube so that my dropper cable go through aswell as cutting off ~15mm of the seat tube length. That is probably the only gripe I have with the frame as they are 460mm stock which is a little long for my height. Also in total the bike weighs 18.7kg last time I checked which for long days is kinda crap."
},
{
"poster": 190158,
"content": "Kryptotals any good? Considering a pair to replace the high rollers on my Mythique"
},
{
"poster": 190173,
"content": "I fractured my humerus back in october riding. Just going too fast in the dark and hit a big rock that I didn't see. Well yesterday I went on my first real ride since then and it felt pretty good. I am completely exhausted today. The shoulder healed up pretty well overall. Almost all of my mobility back, strength is coming back nicely. I understand now what my orthopedist means by me being lucky. No displacement and no surgery needed."
},
{
"poster": 190175,
"content": ">>190158 Yeah, they're good. I run the trail casing Kryptos on a short travel 29er and a hardtail. It's not the best grip in mud but it'll get you through it, it's also good on rocks and dry terrain. I'm a big fan of them and I'd buy them again, maybe even put them on my enduro bike too once I wear through the Michelin Wild Enduros. One thing to note is that when I mounted them on the BERD TR30 rims on my trail bike, they were the hardest tires I've ever mounted, not because the bead was too tight, but because it just kept slipping out the instant I'd relax the tire lever to move it. On the NOBL TR35 rims on my hardtail, that wasn't an issue at all and they were the easiest tires I've ever mounted. Seems like difficulty mounting them is rare but I'm not the only one, but holy fug is it frustrating. The performance is good enough that it made up for the frustrating install which is why I bought them again for the hardtail."
},
{
"poster": 190211,
"content": ">>190158 Yes, they are very good. They are especially good on dry loose terrain due to their grip and are also a very predictable tire. They also hookup on pretty much anything but mud. They are alright on mud. Another bonus is that they are very long lasting. I would highly recommend them. Photo from my ride today"
},
{
"poster": 190220,
"content": ">>190158 Don't get the entry level trail/endruance tyres which are made in china, the casings are really easy to warp and the qc isn't as good I think, the enduro and dh casings range made in germany are really good. I have had an euduro soft rear krypto on for 18 months and still has quite a lot of life in it. I had a kyrpotal front DH super soft on all summer and most of the winter which was great besides when mud gets thick then they easily clog up. >>190173 I dislocated and fractured my radius and ulna 2 years ago and that was the most painful thing I have ever experienced. I also didn't need surgery which I'm glad about, however I can feel a little bump on my elbow now and can no longer fully extend my arm completely straight. It took 4 months to be completely brace free and probably 2 more months before I was strong and confident enough to be back riding. I had issues with ligament snapping on my elbow and needed to do quite a lot of physio. Listen to your physio and be consistent with the exercises."
},
{
"poster": 190224,
"content": ">>190220 I think they've moved a lot of the production over now, all 3 of my current enduro casings are made in china. A downhill that I just bought was still made in Germany though. I did immediately puncture one of them but haven't had any issues after patching it, they seem identical besides the branding being very noticeably more orange on the China ones I wish they made a supersoft enduro, DH casing on the front feels like overkill no matter how hard I'm throwing it into rocks at 20psi.. >>190158 you can try xynotals as well, it will be a little more similar to highrollers--great if you live somewhere dry and never do anything steep and loose. Kryptotals feel more like DHR2/assguy combo but more refined and last 5x as long. I wouldn't advise the trail casing/compound either, even if its all made in china now"
},
{
"poster": 190251,
"content": ">>190087 >60kg fully kitted >little long for my height. Are you ayy lmao mode or 4ft tall? If both the logic for the closed - 3/4 closed LSC is just to damp slow movements while letting the fork absorb high velocity changes. Works for me as I'm 3ft tall and 40kg aswell. The new edit looks like at 16.2kg for the S3. For the trunnion mounting you can just return the frame if the alignment is shit or ask for another."
},
{
"poster": 190254,
"content": ">>190224 Guess I'm not buying anything other than their DH casing now. The argotal I bought recently was made in germany and would assume their normal soft variant is also made there. >>190251 1.7m tall so when buying the bike I was basically inbetween sizes plus before I owned this bike I had a small trek which I constantly felt like I was going to OTB which I didn't like the feel of. Additionally, the fact that this is an older bike from a time where the bike industry wasn't obsessed with super short and steep seat tubes hence why my seat is slammed fully forward. The geo on the v1 now is kind of similar to modern trail bikes now besides that with just 'all mountain/enduro' travel. The new edit if you are buying it from airdrop (besides the works version with reserve carbon wheels) has the wtb rims and tyres which are made of cottage cheese so would end up weighing probably a decent bit more with actual tyres and rims."
},
{
"poster": 190256,
"content": ">>190220 >I dislocated and fractured my radius and ulna 2 years ago and that was the most painful thing I have ever experienced. Damn that sounds way more brutal. Oddly my crash wasn't terribly painful but being in the sling for 2 months and then the 2 months of physio were quite painful. Luckily I'm out of physio now, just need to keep strengthening and stretching."
},
{
"poster": 190320,
"content": "N >>189617 Ahh well, have them now. Will look into waterproofing coatings for them."
},
{
"poster": 190513,
"content": "Soggy today. The Wild Enduros weren't cutting it through the soggy fast turns, but it was still fine"
},
{
"poster": 190555,
"content": ">>190513 your the cali anon right? is that photo in santa cruz. I'm just asking because that seems like an acutal forest in the background >pic unrelated"
},
{
"poster": 190579,
"content": "Aye car rum ba why is the Aye car rum ba song so loud"
},
{
"poster": 190607,
"content": "Broke my fibula and tore all the ligaments off that side of the ankle 4.5 weeks ago being a DH rocketeer. Tightrope and plate installed, re-anchoring of ligaments in surgery. Gave me a moon boot at the 2.5 week mark, I've been doing little exercises and walk little distances on the bare foot so I can prevent accidental deaths in the shower. Been walking in the moonboot as much as is sensibly possible too. Today I was able to get on my spin bike and was able to do 5 minutes. We're all gonna make it frens. Have a good weekend riding everyone, and make sure your rear tyre is in good condition (I'm blaming this for the partial cause of my crash)."
},
{
"poster": 190613,
"content": ">>190254 I was looking at it but I'd need to import it to EU which might get expensive."
},
{
"poster": 190688,
"content": ">>190607 Shiett, glad to hear you're recovering well from such a gnarly injury, fren. Make sure to keep up with physio and ease back into the gnar. I tried riding some larger features too soon after separating my shoulder and ended up aggravating it pretty badly."
},
{
"poster": 190712,
"content": ">>190555 I am *a* cali anon. This photo isn't from Santa Cruz though, it's from Joaquin Miller Park in Oakland, I try to ride here at least once a week on a monday or wednesday after work. I was at Santa Cruz 3 weeks ago and it was very wet but not peanut butter. It'll probably be much better there tomorrow, but I'm riding in Pacifica instead. I'm waiting for a week or two of dry weather to hit Quarry Park in Half Moon Bay. It looks really fun to ride there."
},
{
"poster": 190796,
"content": ">>190712 good ride but the plan was to do laps on Boy Scout trail which is a 2 mile loop that takes us back to the car so we can get more water and snacks without carrying a lot with us, but the trail was closed so we ended up doing a 16 mile ride with 2700 ft of climbing...and I did it on one bottle of water and 2 stroop waffles. I'm genuinely surprised I was able to pull it off with that little water. It helped that there was a decent amount of shade and cool wind on the climbs. Next time I think this might happen, I think I'll just carry my hydration pack with me. If it was a warm day, it would have been really bad."
},
{
"poster": 190799,
"content": "anybody dislike their local trail association or IMBA? I personally dislike their trails and trail building practices. along with the culture that they bring to mountain biking. I think that part of the cause for this is that everyone who wants to actually have fun in the woods realizes after dealing with trail organizations that, they are detrimental to having fun. I say this because when it comes to the parts of mountain biking that I enjoy they don't really do anything positive relating to it. IMBA trails tend to be characterized by no jumps, smooth dirt highways, very shallow grades, lots of grade reversals, no technical features, and overall low difficulty, low speed, low fun. Most good trails are pirate trails or were built as pirate trails and then legalized. The main cause of this is that IMBA trails don’t have sustained downhills, or if you do you have to pedal down them. I personally haven't had very much fun on any new trail built with oversight from IMBA, or local trail orgs, who are staffed by people who can't do the \"mountain\" part of the biking. This is not to discount the good work that they do in the ways of public relations and keeping mountain biking approachable for all and helping out local trail orgs with organization and insurance. it works great for building flat dirt greenways with no shallow grades, no rocks or roots and lots of hairpin 180degree turns. This Is also the reason that a good number of pirate trails are better maintained than the official ones. Where berms get rebuilt, and downed trees get turned into features. This issue is made very apparent when any bozo or local grom can rake a path down a hill and it will be more fun trail than anything built officially. All of this excludes bike parks, and privately owned trail systems, as they typically build good and fun trails because if they don’t they go out of business."
},
{
"poster": 190824,
"content": ">>190799 Mines okay desu. Yeah most of the trails they build are smooth, but there aren't necessarily slow. They build some shorter harder trails as well that I can't even ride at enough speed to make all the jumps. We still have the illegal trails that are maintained by clubs, so a mix of both."
},
{
"poster": 190826,
"content": ">>190799 Mine pretty much doesn't maintain or do trails where I live. They focus on the public relations part. I've read the disasters they cause in the US with gay highway trails but what is worse its all the monkeys that parrot the \"available for all\" \"fun for beginners\" \"sustainability\" \"safe\" line by dumbing down trails as they are too hard. Mix in the cancerous litigious culture you guys have and every rock, jump, log, and drop is removed to avoid some gay casual from suing the shit out of landowners for having dangerous shit."
},
{
"poster": 190855,
"content": ">>190799 Mine is great for an MBA outside of the PNW. They build some really fun legal trails with a fair bit of expert stuff. My only gripe is that the trail building 'ethos' here can't seem to escape the need to shove brutal technical climbs right in the middle of fun gravity trails and then you have to listen to the strava egotists moan about everyone having fun on ebikes. Unfortunately all of them are going to have that focus on \"inclusivity\", which is often a bad thing even if you completely disregard the benefits of gatekeeping since it hinders progression. On any relatively modern mountain bike there is no such thing as a \"green\" skill level beyond the first hour on a bike"
},
{
"poster": 190972,
"content": ">>190799 There are several around where I live. They used to be awful with trail building, making the most boring uninspired trails with zero features, but have been getting better over the past few years. Methinks the boomers that used to run them are being replaced by younger riders. That and for a while jumps were banned on sanctioned trails because some kid paralyzed himself on one he had no business hitting, and his lawyer parents sued the shit out of the land owner. I can't comment on downhill sections because there are no mountains here. The outlaw trails here are still much better than the sanctioned ones though."
},
{
"poster": 190996,
"content": "If I have issues with my middles gears sometimes not engaging and clicking, what could cause that? Indexing the gears doesn't fix it. One guy told me it's probably a bent hanger. It visually looks straight but maybe it's a little off. The guy at the shop says it's probably the chain or a worn cassette. He put a new chain on my bike but it's still doing it."
},
{
"poster": 190997,
"content": ">>190996 if you had it in the shop why wouldn´t he check if the hangers isn´t bent like it takes 10mins there are multiple problems possible most likely it´s in this order hanger, indexing, worn cassette, the cable is worn out or the lever is out of whack"
},
{
"poster": 191006,
"content": "Well it's back to raining nearly every day once again so over half of the local trails are back to being a slip and slide for the most part. The ground is mainly peat so drainage is horrible for most tracks as they just start off with someone clearing away some of the heather and then just ride it till it ruts in. Older tracks have finally got to harder ground but thats around 1ft deep so it will take years of riding realistically for some of the newer tracks to be properly ridable during winter. It is enjoyable at first but after spending at least 20-30 minutes after each ride for ~6 months of the year cleaning the bike and kit it gets monotonous. >>190799 I don't think or know of any trail associations where I live in the UK, most tracks are built on public or private land and if tracks are bulldozed then people just go and build somewhere else. The main problem is walkers which put rocks, tree branches and barbed wire across the tracks which are nowhere near walking paths and they do it out of spite - it could also be because of the geriatric ebikers which exclusively ride up and down the fireroad. People have been hurt and ended up getting the police involved, however I don't think anything has ever been resolved. >>190996 Why did the guy at the shop say its probably the chain or the cassette, changed the chain for you and left it if it as is still having issues, even after he said it could also be the cassette. I get that cassettes are more expensive to replace, but they could have at least asked to change it to attempt to resolve the issue instead of leaving you back at square one but with less money."
},
{
"poster": 191011,
"content": ">>190997 yeah now that you mention it he should have. He seemed pretty convinced it was the chain or the cassette so maybe both of us forgot. I'll have the hanger measured or replaced before I go through a cassette replacement for sure. >the lever is out of whack like the shifting lever in the cockpit? >>191006 >Why did the guy at the shop say its probably the chain or the cassette, changed the chain for you and left it if it as is still having issues, even after he said it could also be the cassette. I get that cassettes are more expensive to replace, but they could have at least asked to change it to attempt to resolve the issue instead of leaving you back at square one but with less money. Nah it wasn't like that. It's always shifted great on the stand but under load the issue happens. So he said let him know if it's still happening and I felt it on my ride back. The shop is just a ride thru a park away so it's nbd."
},
{
"poster": 191026,
"content": ">>191011 yeah in the cockpit but did the chain measuring tool fall trough even on the 1.0? If yeas the cassette is most likely done maybe but unlikely the front chaining From my experience in as a bike tech to fix this check things in this order if the chain has been already replaced Hanger>indexes (if you have newer shimano on the cage there is a line to help you adjust B screw)>check if the cage is not bent>cassette(just chuck some other cassette on it that the shop should have in stock for your hub to see if that´s the problem)>bowden/cable>lever if none of these things it can be something more complicated like a bent frame hell i´ve even seen a broken BB causing similar issue but it´s uncommon for this to be a cause if your shop can´t fix something simple as this than i would suggest learn to diy or change shop"
},
{
"poster": 191060,
"content": ">>190220 Ahh that's shite I was wanting the trail casing haha, I like a fast rolling tyre with good grip when you need it as the local bike park is a 25 mile ride each way"
},
{
"poster": 191078,
"content": ">>191026 >did the chain measuring tool fall trough even on the 1.0? uh sorry I'm too much of a newbie to know what this means. On the worn chain he used the measuring tool and it fit into place. He said there was like 1-2mm of wear depending on where he measured. He didn't measure the new one."
},
{
"poster": 191104,
"content": ">>191078 Old chain stretches. The tool shouldn't fit."
},
{
"poster": 191126,
"content": ">>191060 I run the trail casing on two bikes. It's fine. I think I might actually like them more than Michelins but it's not like I ride them back to back on the same bike. If you want fast rolling and good grip, Try the Michelin Wild AM2 in the front and the Force AM2 in the rear if it's dry out. I really love that combo for the dry but I replaced them with kryptotals for the muddy season."
},
{
"poster": 191149,
"content": ">>190688 Thanks fren. I'm at 5.5 weeks now and it's just set in that this is a serious injury and it's going to take a bit of time to get back to normal. Getting a bit down now due to not being able to drive, and I'm just stuck at home all day. Have stripped my bike down and have ordered new bearings and some other parts I was going to upgrade later in the year anyway. Going to build a new front wheel when that stuff shows up, so that's keeping me going at the moment, watching the postal updates. Hope you've all had good times riding over the last week."
},
{
"poster": 191202,
"content": ">>191149 good to hear your doing better anon, Hope you get your bike and body dialed in time for summer riding season. I had a good time riding last weekend, I did 60 miles and about 9700ft of vertical. That was the hardest ride i had ever done, should have gone and made the 10k elevation. I only feel recovered today 3 days later. I got a little sick from pushing too hard. I also have been having some spoke and tire issues. I broke a spoke landing pretty hard in a rock garden on my ride, i heard a crack and then a pinging sound. I was worried I nuked my rear wheel. Anyways I get back home replace the spokes and redo the rim tape. then while practicing 180's in my front yard I rip the tire clean off and break another spoke. I think its probably time I retire this rim since its getting pretty wonky now"
},
{
"poster": 191229,
"content": "Finally bit the bullet and got my first bike, pretty fun and did better than expected after not riding a bike in 15 years and being a fatty now. Ass hurt quite a lot from shit stock seat but I got a better one since that’s lot more comfortable. Might pick up a OT shift and get a dropper post soon"
},
{
"poster": 191231,
"content": ">>191229 Nice, put some proper pedals instead of toy pedals, any chink shit will work for that"
},
{
"poster": 191232,
"content": "Is the zeb charger 3 really a downgrade compared to the 2.1 zeb? And worse to a fox 38. I've read alot of negative stuff about it"
},
{
"poster": 191233,
"content": ">>191231 Got medal pedals put on before leaving the shop with it"
},
{
"poster": 191235,
"content": "Anybody knows more about the rumors of Tibault Daprela? He switched teams and now got sacked by canyon allegedly about some sexual misconduct thing."
},
{
"poster": 191253,
"content": ">>191235 Damn it seems he got Me2d."
},
{
"poster": 191266,
"content": ">>191229 Fit a dropper post and replace that stem, looks good otherwise"
},
{
"poster": 191314,
"content": ">>191202 Thanks man. Unfortunately I crashed at the end of the summer season (ausfag) and have the winter to look forward to. I might swap my trail bike parts to the hardtail frame soon. I've built the Giga frame back up from stripped parts, the boxxer came in the mail, so it's pretty cool seeing that come together. I found a Saint gearset online too, hopefully that comes next week so I can keep building, and my front wheel parts + stem are coming in to a LBS early next week too. I can't wait to get onto this thing and blast down hills again. I'm aware I'll be \"that guy\" with a dual crown on a (admittedly, long leg, 180/180, now 200/180) enduro, but it's really all part of my slow transition plan to full DH rig. I did 40km and 4170ft vertical once on a gravel bike, and the best part about that was coming down. Fuck doing double that, and on an mtb, you're a sicko. I feel that if spokes are breaking from what I would call normal stress, they're fatigued and a replacement is probably a good idea before you snap a spoke(s) and potentially collapse a wheel on a landing or slab/rock garden. Being the rear wheel I guess you'll just grind to a stop, but it's a long way to walk out sometimes. How long have you had that wheel for? >>191229 That's a nice looking bike anon, I always forget how much I like looking at hardtails. Don't be afraid to play with stems and bars, a different cockpit can contribute heaps to how confident you feel on a bike."
},
{
"poster": 191430,
"content": "Umm what do you do with old helmets? Do you keep them in the parts bin?"
},
{
"poster": 191432,
"content": ">>181098 Had a crash about september where i manged to go over the handlebars, at the time I realised I'd managed to knock the handlebar out of position, but I didn't realise I'd fucked the saddle up as well and was riding for several months after with it half-broken."
},
{
"poster": 191442,
"content": ">>191430 Depends how fancy it is. I have a cool looking carbon fullface from troy lee that I crashed and keep as a decoration for my shelf. Plus it serves as a reminder to be a bit more careful when riding blind lol. If you plan on getting the same model again, keeping the fabric liner could be useful."
},
{
"poster": 191465,
"content": ">>191006 Whereabouts are you in Britain m8?"
},
{
"poster": 191490,
"content": ">>191314 Sounds like an awesome bike to me. Keep us updated. >>191229 Congratulations on the new bike, I hope you have a great time on it. A dropper post is probably the best upgrade, a better fork doesn't change how you ride >Pic related Taking the train back home after riping the tire off the bead. Im going to try running without a tire insert to see if that helps, I probably just need more tire pressure. On the bright side Atleast I've gotten good enough that I can rip a tire off a rim cornering now."
},
{
"poster": 191519,
"content": "> building road bike > full internal cable routing and headset routing > expect threading the brake hoses through the handlebars to be the worst part, it's the easiest > threading brake hoses through the frame are the fucking worst > no tube in tube cable routing due to TIME's special frame manufacturing process that makes them have the objectively best carbon fiber available, but also makes them terrible to work with Don't let the MTB industry push this shit, I know SCOTT is pushing this with their XC mtbs and propain is pushing it too. I started building at around noon and I worked until 8:30 and I'm still not done. All that time was spent on threading cables. This is so much worse than you'd think it would be. I thought to myself \"ehh, it won't be that bad\" but it was worse. There is no benefit to MTBs and the aero benefits I'll gain with this aren't worth the suffering. I just hope it's fun enough to make me forget about how painful it is to build"
},
{
"poster": 191529,
"content": ">>191430 Because I'm a single man, and I therefore have no one to nag me about my decorative choices, I've started writing the kill tags on the helmet and they currently live on my TV unit. Yes, I destroyed the red helmet in pic related in less than 48 hours. That's why I have a broken leg :^) Fox gave me 50% off crash replacement for that effort. >>191490 Will do, I've got about 5 parcels in the mail at the moment, so will post when she's rebuilt. How do you like the Kryptotals? I've heard they're very grippy, even when worn down. Congratulations on cornering like a madman too. >>191519 I don't mind gear and rear brake internal routing, but dropper post internal routing can 100% get fucked. That's the bane of my existence."
},
{
"poster": 191537,
"content": ">>191490 >Atleast I've gotten good enough that I can rip a tire off a rim cornering now. Impressive, very nice"
},
{
"poster": 191563,
"content": ">>191490 >>191537 >>191529 i really like the kryptotals, I got these tires back in may of last year. So they last a VERY long time. I have been through one fork and 2 100hr services on my new fork and while the top center tread on the tire is starting to loose some height, there isn't really any undercutting on either tire. this is also probably because I am not riding very much on pavement for climbs. That kills a tire pretty fast, its mostly dirt or gravel. They still hook up in corners very well, and I would say that their all out grip is about the same as a dhr2 once you get onto the side knobs, it has more grip in the transition zones and is very predictable about when it is going to let go, so you can 2 wheel drift your bike on loose surfaces. Braking is pretty good. idk if its anything to write home about. The front is probably going to stay on the the next year or so."
},
{
"poster": 191580,
"content": "There was a dusting of snow so I got to ride my fat tire bike on some trails. I missed all of winter with an injury so I'll take what I can get."
},
{
"poster": 191587,
"content": ">>191465 norf west. lancashire/greater manchester m8 >>191563 Agree about the wear of the conti's, been using a rear kryptotal enduro since october 2022 and still has lots of life left with probably about 3500-4500km ridden. The sipings have pretty much worn away but there is still pently of life left, I'll try to remember to take a photo of them clean and dry instead of caked in mud."
},
{
"poster": 191672,
"content": ">>191529 Yeah, the dropper is the worst part to route, but this bike was fucking awful to build. I make routing internal droppers easier by having a PVC pipe that can fit into the seat tube, then when the cable housing is routed through, the pipe catches it and it goes up toward me instead of in some other direction."
},
{
"poster": 191707,
"content": ">>191672 Installing the dropper post wasn't hard, nor passoling the guide. In my case the rear brake was the one where I got really close to just taking it to the bike shop. Installing the hose bottom -up without a tunnel inside the frame and having the rubber thing to pull it ripped something I don't want to do ever again. What I though was going to be 30 min job turned into 7 hours. Reminds me of my dad once when he lost his shit while working on the car, he just stopped, went upstairs and didn't come down after 4 hours of meditation to finish kek"
},
{
"poster": 191713,
"content": ">>191314 Update, the front wheel parts arrived, and I've built my first wheel following the park tool guide on YouTube. Using the advanced mount the wheel in the fork, spin it, then hold the pencil steady method to rub on the rim to determine lateral and radial true, I've got it within half a mm of perfect each way, which I'm pretty fucking happy with. Quite proud of how this has turned out too, I've always wanted to build a wheel. Gonna get the LBS to have a look at it and double check my work due to only feeling the tension in the spokes with the squeeze method, but it seems pretty much bang on. >>191672 Pretty smart idea with the PVC pipe to catch the cable, I'm stealing that. I think the only saving grace for the MTB industry is that most bikes have to have the cables pop out before main pivot to jump into the rear triangle. I'll kill myself if I ever have to internally route an MTB frame from headset to rear brake. >>191563 >>191587 Looks like I'll try the Kryptotals then."
},
{
"poster": 191720,
"content": "new to mtb and wondering if i'm a pleb for enjoying this guys content? is he decently regarded in the community? i get he's about family friendly / sponsor-safe content. does he have good opinions on things though? should i listen?"
},
{
"poster": 191725,
"content": ">>191713 Nice. But how come you didn't do some pattern artistry with the spokes? Could've put colored spokes, a pattern in them or in the nipples. When other riders watch your bike on the trail they'll overlook the wheels. >>191720 Yes. Yes. Yes and Yes"
},
{
"poster": 191771,
"content": ">>191720 Old stuff was great."
},
{
"poster": 191814,
"content": ">>191725 It was my first time building a wheel, and I was happy enough to just make a stock standard design. Hopefully no one watches me on the trails lmao. >>191720 I want to be more like Sam Pilgrim."
},
{
"poster": 191868,
"content": ">>191587 Here's the current wear on my front and rear kryptotals. Definitely worn but still plenty of life left. >>191814 Don't personally watch Sam's content but he seems cool. https://www.instagram.com/p/C4JRjYf BcHm/"
},
{
"poster": 191877,
"content": ">>191720 Yes, you are a pleb, mainly because you think we give a shit what jewtubers you watch. My favorites are BCPov, an for his trail building stuff, but he tends to chicken out on stuff he knows he can do, Occasionally. Dale stone is pretty based and actually knows what he is talking about when it comes to biking and components. Most engineers that actually have a job in the industry and have side YouTube channels are pretty grounded. Those that have their primary income from YouTube tend to have some pretty weird/wrong opinions from getting lost in the sauce. Like an engineering graduate with no experience they tend to be really smart sounding idiots. With a half baked understanding of what they are talking about. Seth is pretty based landowner and has a good mix of actual MTB conent and stuff that, and gains perspective on topics before talking about them instead of your ≈zero view YouTuber who can't even ride a bike. Seth is a good reference point if you want to learn about bikes and areas out it, but he doesn't really understand how different root causes effect things in terms of component design, just observing their results. Which to most people is good enough. >>191814 Everyone wants to be like Sam Pilgrim including me."
},
{
"poster": 191903,
"content": ">>191877 Dale stone is pretty good, his riding as well like dangerous dave. Lewis buchanan PoV riding is nice to watch"
},
{
"poster": 192047,
"content": "When it comes to big youtubers, I like Sam Pilgrim and Danny MacAskill. Evans MTB Saga is another guy I like. I mainly watch local riders since I prefer to see trails I've ridden or can easily get to. I like this dude https://www.youtube.com/@thebigouts idemtb/videos judging by his mustache, I think he's like 15 years old, but he fucking shreds."
},
{
"poster": 192149,
"content": ">Mtb jewtubers Sam Pilgrim is easily the most based. I'm also a fan of Remy Metallier and Yoann Barelli"
},
{
"poster": 192196,
"content": "For your consideration, I present the idea I had while walking through the supermarket: Cohesive bandage tape as cable management. I messed around with it a bit to get it reasonably neat. Pros: cheap, strong, breathable (no mold danger) and waterproof (stays attached), sound deadening. Cons: takes longer to apply than cable ties, could attract dust and look dirty after a while (maybe, untested), doesn't look that good if you aren't neat with it. Just waiting on my tires to come from yurope now, and we'll be in business. Apparently the I was supposed to be using crutches with the moonboot for the last 4 weeks, the doctor was annoyed about that when I went for the checkup yesterday lmao"
},
{
"poster": 192259,
"content": ">>192196 >the kind of shit you do when you're injured and can't ride I know that feeling man"
},
{
"poster": 192269,
"content": ">>192149 Remy is a great rider but has 0 charisma, only good for raw clips."
},
{
"poster": 192278,
"content": "Finally went for a ride since november. Dh singletrack. Sexo. Rebuilt completely the bike/fork/brakes a month ago but didn't have the chance to ride till today. Finding out I forgot to bed the pads at the start which is a steep chute was quite scary. Set up my fork pressure on the top of the trail and through finger gauging I got the perfect tire pressure, bike felt dialed on the go. I will never get it like this again. Only my lack of fitness held me behind. Bashed the chainring on a rock and bent a tooth which caused the chain fall on each spin. Smashing it again with a rock fucking fixed it. . Forgot how fun this shit is"
},
{
"poster": 192332,
"content": "I wanna go ride but I REEEALLY need to do not just one but 2 lower services and I’ve never done it on a fox fork and I’m worried it’ll probably require some proprietary $30 chunk of metal for no discernible reason, and on top of that I’ve lost the big wooden stick that I use for the rockshox lower services, so now my only option is the gravel bike (which is also gonna need a lower service this year, but not desperately like my other bikes) Might just go slap the 1996 cannondale around until the frame snaps instead"
},
{
"poster": 192364,
"content": ">>192332 You don't need any special tools to do the Fox lowers but I think one makes it easier. I can't remember which part. It's the same process as with Rockshox. just different oils and volumes. Speaking of which, the 50 hour service for my ZEB Ultimate lowers is due too."
},
{
"poster": 192645,
"content": ">Made some money on the Yotsuba Stock Exchange Ok bros, what mtb parts/gear should I buy with my profit?"
},
{
"poster": 192663,
"content": "Ended up making some more money - which bike brand should I buy out, and what revolutionary feature should I put on a bike? I'm thinking of making a bike with no cable routing at all, so you can only use wireless shifting and brakes"
},
{
"poster": 192672,
"content": ">>192645 If serious, I always start with fork and shock upgrades because I think they make the biggest difference to the bike if it's needed. Cockpit is next, stem and bars, and a good set of grips is underrated. Seat, tyres, drivetrain, brakes, wheels in that order, depending circumstance imo. >>192663 Tubed internal routing on all internally routed bikes. And pay all companies out to have a universal cassette spline. Also bring back Nukeproof and Vitus."
},
{
"poster": 192675,
"content": ">>192672 >Making life easier for bikeshop wagies >Universal standards I dunno, I was thinking we need a larger variety of bottom bracket and rear axle standards. How about supermeganiggerhyper boost axle spacing? Or how about a new frame standard for mounting wireless gearboxes? We need to think like bike company owners here, Anon"
},
{
"poster": 192688,
"content": "Mudguard rocked up today. I must say, the Germans make a fucking incredible product, and not securing with zipties is highly aesthetic to my tastes. Not sure how the velcro ties will go long term, but judging from the quality of the rest of the kit, I'm expecting them to be fine. SKS Mudrocker. >very moto"
},
{
"poster": 192695,
"content": ">>192688 >velcro Checked. I've had the mudguard in picrel held on by the same velcro straps for years and had no issues, so you should be gucci for quite some time"
},
{
"poster": 192702,
"content": "*yawn* surely I can wait to swap my tubeless tire until 20 minutes before my ride tomorrow, it’ll be easy"
},
{
"poster": 192707,
"content": ">>192702 >Psssst >Tyre deflates halfway through your ride due to not seating >Pssssssssssssst >nuthin personnel kid"
},
{
"poster": 192720,
"content": ">>192688 Don't forget to file the edges of the fins of those saint pads. They make ALOT of noise, it's like riding with 1990s 3x bike or a kitchen. And redline likewater Simple as"
},
{
"poster": 192808,
"content": ">>192707 This is why the pre ride is always required before going on a longer one Atleast 15 minutes of good riding in before I trust a tire. I also lost a jousting match with a tree this sunday so I will see if I heal up in time for next weekend. Or atleast enough to start riding my road bike around"
},
{
"poster": 192809,
"content": ">>192707 >>192808 I had two really annoying ones with the rear tire on my gravel bike > go long really long ride > tire holds up great > pull over to enjoy lunch > tire is completely deflated and won't take any air when I come back > had to stick a shitty tube in it and barely made it back home So then I tape it back up, go on another ride, it handles it great, then I come back home, put it away, and it's completely deflated again. For some reason, the rear wheel just has so much trouble holding air with that wheelset even though the front uses the same tape. I never get any trouble from my mtb wheelsets."
},
{
"poster": 192815,
"content": ">>192720 The amount of useful tips anons have given me from the background of my pictures over the years is astounding. Thanks, I'll look into it. Seems like you can take the fins off entirely, which is what I'll probably do. >>192808 I fucking hate slow leaks that aren't immediately apparent. If I can't ride immediately after putting a tyre on, I'll have the bike upside down in my loungeroom, and everytime I walk past it, I'll give the wheels a spin and check pressures. It's worked alright so far. Heal up anon. Jousting reminds me when we were kids, me and my friends would duct tape pillows to the end of brooms, use the broom head as a shoulder brace, then joust each other on our bikes. I miss it and recommend it. >>192809 Funnily enough, I've had a similar situation on my gravel bike. >Be riding around local rec park tracks while away for work >find cool little local \"blue\"(green) trail from the old local water reservoir all the way down to the docks >One offshoot section is called Charge of the Light Horse Brigade (Australian military history) >It's exactly what it sounds like, grassy downhill dirt path, with random small rocks and knobbly grass tufts to make it feel like a galloping horse charge >Very cool >Do this section a few times, hear >PHHWSH >Rear tire is half flat, probably rolled it off the bead from cornering on something knobbly >Pump up >Flat within 10 minutes, goes flat over night when not riding. >Rinse and repeat for about a week trying to figure it out because the tyre looks fine >Give up, put a new tyre on >Holds pressure fine Cunt. I've put Cushcore in my gravel bike now too, I don't regret it for riding singletrack with it."
},
{
"poster": 192817,
"content": ">>192808 Nah I only use pre-worn tires that seat with practically zero effort and I never clean the old sealant out of them and also I spent like 4 hours creating the perfect rim tape job in 2021"
},
{
"poster": 192826,
"content": "didn’t swap my tubeless tire, sent fatty whips on 40c"
},
{
"poster": 192904,
"content": "foam rings from 2021 be like"
},
{
"poster": 192910,
"content": ">38 finally back from warranty service >guess I'll install all the new stuff >fork still broken >new XT shifter somehow feels worse than the deore >new MTX pads vibrating like crazy after bedding in >$40 replacement hanger doesn't even fit correctly What a letdown, I guess this is what I get for oopgrading"
},
{
"poster": 192911,
"content": ">>192910 thanks I was on the fence about sending my fork in or buying the stuff to do it myself and you’ve convinced me"
},
{
"poster": 192915,
"content": ">>192910 >He fell for the warranty Jew"
},
{
"poster": 192924,
"content": ">>192910 >I guess this is what I get for oopgrading No, this is what happens when you don't ask for shit here before swiping the card. >>fork still broken Probably its csu creak, you could've asked and locktite would've been the solution given >>new MTX pads vibrating like crazy after bedding in You can ask here and you'd have been told to put mastic tape on the calliper, or just stick to shimano pads. If sram, changing brakes to something that brakes helps >>$40 replacement hanger doesn't even fit correctly You could've made a greentext post about the bent hanger and we probably would've told you to use hammer or a wrench to bend it back, fixing your problem"
},
{
"poster": 192928,
"content": ">>180616 Bumping dead thread by saying you most certainly can buy a good, used mountain bike for under 500. I bought a cube analog 2012 ltd for £180 a few years ago. Probably just before covid. https://www.bikeradar.com/reviews/b ikes/mountain-bikes/cube-analog-29- review"
},
{
"poster": 192936,
"content": ">>192924 >csu creak That comes later. It was brand new with a massive air leak into the lowers. Warrantied it in case it was the chamber/shaft itself and turns out it must be since they just did an air spring service and didn't bother to test it right >bend it back Indexing still feels off, I'll take a file to the new one next >mastic tape on the caliper Where? There are no fins rattling around, instead it feels like the rotor is super warped. maybe it is, haven't looked into this one yet"
},
{
"poster": 193042,
"content": ">>193041 New mtb season, new thread"
}
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{
"poster": 181630,
"content": ">Let me tell you first, I've been around."
},
{
"poster": 181638,
"content": "Why do the Dutch always try to act tough, like bro you all ride bicycles lmao"
},
{
"poster": 181698,
"content": ">>181638 Oh look, another typical /xs/ larping faggot who knows nothing about pro-fight history. >Rico Verhoeven: Known as the \"King of Kickboxing,\" he's a dominant heavyweight champion in Glory. >Ernesto Hoost: A legendary figure in K-1, Hoost is a multiple-time K-1 World Grand Prix champion. >Remy Bonjasky: Known for his flying kicks and knees, Bonjasky is a three-time K-1 World Grand Prix champion. >Peter Aerts: Nicknamed \"The Dutch Lumberjack,\" Aerts is known for his powerful high kicks and multiple K-1 World Grand Prix titles. >Semmy Schilt: A towering figure in kickboxing, Schilt is a multiple-time K-1 World Grand Prix champion and holds various heavyweight titles. >Alistair Overeem: A veteran in MMA, Overeem has competed in Pride, Strikeforce, DREAM, and the UFC, holding titles in some of these organizations. >Bas Rutten: A pioneer in MMA, Rutten is a former UFC Heavyweight Champion and a three-time King of Pancrase world champion. >Gegard Mousasi: Known for his versatility, Mousasi has held titles in multiple organizations, including DREAM, Strikeforce, and Bellator. >Stefan Struve: Known for his height, \"Skyscraper\" Struve has been a notable heavyweight competitor in the UFC. Also, what kind of faggot has beef with bicycles? You must be some lardass amerimutt."
},
{
"poster": 181699,
"content": ">>181698 bro i think he was just cracking wise"
},
{
"poster": 181703,
"content": ">>181698 What does that have to do with a street fighting video? No Dutchman has ever been in a street fight in his life That's where the term flying Dutchman comes from, at the first sight of conflict they pedal their fixed gear bikes away so fast they basically take off into the air"
},
{
"poster": 181705,
"content": ">>181699 How was that supposed to be funny?"
},
{
"poster": 181706,
"content": ">>181703 >That's where the term flying Dutchman comes from, at the first sight of conflict they pedal their fixed gear bikes away so fast they basically take off into the air LOL, dutchsisters its so over"
},
{
"poster": 181720,
"content": ">>181630 DANGA DO DANGA DO DANG"
},
{
"poster": 181779,
"content": ">>181720 DONT YOU EVA DO DISS"
},
{
"poster": 181790,
"content": ">>181779 THEN YOU PLAY FUN GAMES LIKE HIDE THE BOTTLE"
},
{
"poster": 181806,
"content": ">>181790 >DO-DO-DO-DO >*roundhouse kicks table of guys*"
},
{
"poster": 181808,
"content": ">>181806 Right away you say \"OK I'm sorry\" BANG BANG BANG NO IM NOT"
},
{
"poster": 181863,
"content": ">>181779 >>181790 >>181806 >>181808 Based Basposters"
},
{
"poster": 181867,
"content": ">>181863 >And I go \"okay and- WHOOP!\" and I slit your throat and it's over and out"
},
{
"poster": 181897,
"content": "I love doing this choke to my BJJ friends. I also love Bas. https://youtu.be/TJPFzv5MeWo"
},
{
"poster": 181900,
"content": ">>181698 >all would be destroyed by average local championship bronze madalist freestyle wrestler from Dagestan Really makes you think"
},
{
"poster": 181963,
"content": ">>181900 No, Mousasi would likely beat someone like that. Plus those Dagestanis would get destroyed in kickboxing. Very few of those guys have good striking skills."
},
{
"poster": 181976,
"content": ">>181897 Did he create this or is this originally a Japanese move? Could’ve sworn I’ve seen someone do this that was his senior"
},
{
"poster": 181979,
"content": ">>181976 wouldn't be surprising since it's very easy to transition to this from kesa gatame"
},
{
"poster": 182115,
"content": ">>181897 From what I understand its a catch wrestling move"
},
{
"poster": 183478,
"content": ">>181897 Did this on my brother once"
},
{
"poster": 183484,
"content": ">>181698 Kek loser. >>181705 It is if you're not freaky deaky Dutch."
},
{
"poster": 183487,
"content": "The reason that I gave him my knife, is because now I can tell the police that he actually attacked me. So now I don't go to jail."
},
{
"poster": 183494,
"content": ">>181808 This one will always give me a giggle"
},
{
"poster": 183496,
"content": ">>181698 Heel, to the bawls To deh groin"
},
{
"poster": 183742,
"content": ">>181976 He did say he came up with it on his own, but it already existed unknown to him at the time as well. I could swear I've seen him even name what it is called properly, instead of Bas neck crank."
},
{
"poster": 184418,
"content": ">>183742 Tapology lists it as a \"body crunch\" submission, while Sherdog says it's a \"neck crank\" I like body crunch more. I don't think I've seen anyone besides Bas do it"
},
{
"poster": 187556,
"content": "Bas bump"
},
{
"poster": 187568,
"content": ">>181638 bikes are based"
},
{
"poster": 189222,
"content": ">>181638 The Dutch are the European Japanese, in that they used to be a very vicious martial people until they recently softened up, the only difference was the Dutch didn't soften up through a mix of nuclear hellfire and making all their fighting-ready men kill themselves so you have a lot of genealogical tributaries of ancestors more recent than robust indoor plumbing who used to spend their time asking people weird tongue twister riddle s in Frisian and if they answered fluently the end result was a beheading. Bas is probably one of those guys, but he also had admixture from some kind of would-be catamite which makes him very goofy and probably a bit of a larper."
},
{
"poster": 193281,
"content": "Reminder that Bas Rutten was a sickly coward who cries over the trauma of being bullied, and started fights with everyone he could once he trained how to fight."
},
{
"poster": 193313,
"content": ">>181638 we hebben een serieus probleem, vreinden"
},
{
"poster": 193315,
"content": ">>193281 Dun you eber do dis"
},
{
"poster": 193322,
"content": ">>193281 I dunno that sounds pretty based Especially if he beat up one of the bullies"
},
{
"poster": 193335,
"content": ">>193281 I fail to see the problem with this. Are you mad he gave you the dangity dangity dang or something?"
},
{
"poster": 193337,
"content": "Say what you want about corruption and fight fixing, but Pride used Bas and Rampage perfectly for promotion in the West. Just the right combination of violent and goofy. Almost literal cartoob characters that appealed to everyone for the same reasons."
},
{
"poster": 193362,
"content": ">>189222 Like 3/4s of Europe were vicious martial people until they recently softened up"
}
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{
"poster": 186929,
"content": "This will be a thread for people of all grappling disciplines (judo, wrestling, BJJ, etc.) to come and discuss or ask about technique. Here, we can avoid the retarded debates and help each other out with youtube links, instructional suggestions, troubleshooting ideas, etc. Any serious grappler likely has questions from outside their main discipline. A judo guy starting BJJ might have some questions, or a BJJ guy trying to get better at wrestling. This is NOT a self defense circlejerk thread, or a A vs. B circlejerk thread. Start with something like >discipline >years of experience >technique question or problem I train at one of the most popular gyms in the world right now and I'm an instructional addict. I'll do my best to point people to the right resources."
},
{
"poster": 186940,
"content": "So I know people always circle jerk about wrestling and judo etc saying it's great for the streets And people always shit on BJJ saying it's not as great Why ? isn't BJJ in more practical because you can train it for longer and get better at it and it has easier take downs which actually work and doesn't rely purely on strength"
},
{
"poster": 186942,
"content": ">>186940 >and it has easier take downs eh."
},
{
"poster": 186944,
"content": ">>186929 >I'm an instructional addict Same I got a 4tb drive almost fully. Have you looked at Chael Sonnen wrestling instrutional? I found it really good."
},
{
"poster": 186945,
"content": ">>186940 Bjj doesn’t have easier takedowns they’re just worse at both doing them and defending against them."
},
{
"poster": 186949,
"content": ">>186945 You don't need to do a body lock /trip for 30 years to be able to do one"
},
{
"poster": 186954,
"content": ">>186949 You need to become proficient with your throwing techniques if you want to throw other proficient stand up grapplers. I can teach any retard to do osoto in a day but that same retard isn’t throwing me with it. I don’t understand why blowjitsu nerds so aggressively defend their ignorance about stand up grappling as a positive thing"
},
{
"poster": 186956,
"content": "Thoughts on catch wrestling?"
},
{
"poster": 186958,
"content": ">>186956 It is a mix bag but I enjoy it."
},
{
"poster": 186964,
"content": ">>186940 >first reply is a self defense thing Please stop. There are 1000 other threads for this bullshit >>186944 >Have you looked at Chael Sonnen wrestling instrutional? I haven't. My wrestling fundamentals are pretty solid, but I got some great tips on throws/trips from Danaher's recent standing instrucitonal. The focus on the scoring/submission game in BJJ is really helpful >>186956 >Thoughts on catch wrestling? Has a lot of overlap with BJJ, but I wouldn't waste my time specializing in it. Mostly contrarian spazzy guys who try to rip footlocks and neck cranks instead of developing skill. There are things that can be adapted from catch to be used in modern no-gi grappling, but the talent pool is so small that specializing in catch is unlikely to make you a very good, well rounded grappler."
},
{
"poster": 186982,
"content": ">>186964 >Danaher's recent standing instrucitonal. Are you talking about standing to ground? I found it really good as introduction into scrimmage wrestling. I liked Chael Sonnen wrestling because it was good for leg riding and under hooks."
},
{
"poster": 186985,
"content": ">>186964 >>186982 >using Danaher as a reference for anything outside of BJJ ISHYGDDT"
},
{
"poster": 186995,
"content": ">>186964 Self defence isn't bullshit. If the martial art can't be used for real life then go jerk off over aikido"
},
{
"poster": 186996,
"content": ">>186954 Any idiot can grapple for 3 mins and eventually get a trip/throw through autismal off balancing Everyone with half a brain will just do MMA way... strike into a simple trip/body lock"
},
{
"poster": 186998,
"content": ">>186995 Cool make a thread about it"
},
{
"poster": 186999,
"content": ">greco style wrestling >3 years >Questions: Is there a good list of Japanese words for understanding Judo and new way jiu-jitsu?"
},
{
"poster": 187002,
"content": ">>186999 Judo techniques are clearly defined. New Wave jiujitsu weeb names are not since it's a random mix of Japanese and English re-appropriated to make up new bullshit terms for things that already existed. http://kodokanjudoinstitute.org/en/ waza/"
},
{
"poster": 187003,
"content": ">>187002 >Weeb names I only got into grappling and judo because I am a weeb. >>186999 I looked for the same thing for new wave and couldn't find one, just take notes."
},
{
"poster": 187004,
"content": ">>186996 >hurr durr why should I be good at grappling when I can just fall down Ok, have fun being in the worst position trying to get air back in your lungs after an actual grappler tosses you to the floor at Mach 5. I bet you pull guard."
},
{
"poster": 187005,
"content": ">>187002 I'm currently in the process of redefining all the bullshit lingo BJJ has with the insistence of naming moves after people instead of describing what they are the more you cut away at it the worse you realize it is for example reverse de la riva, to call something a reverse de la riva is to imply de la riva is some kind of default position when it's just a matter of which one was popularized first and neither defines what you're doing. So I call them an outside knee twist and an inside knee twist and I don't really care what language you prefer to use, just whatever language it is should describe what's happening. For example in english it's called a leg entanglement, in japanese it's called ashi garami, in portuguese it's called tap tap tap!"
},
{
"poster": 187006,
"content": ">>187005 >portuguese it's called tap tap tap! What a unique people."
},
{
"poster": 187008,
"content": ">>187002 would you say this is sounds correct? >Ouchi Gari https://translate.google.com/transl ate_tts?ie=UTF-8&total=1&idx=0&clie nt=tw-ob&tl=en-US&q=ouchi%20gari&te xtlen=10 >Osoto Gari https://translate.google.com/transl ate_tts?ie=UTF-8&total=1&idx=0&clie nt=tw-ob&tl=en-US&q=osoto%20gari&te xtlen=10"
},
{
"poster": 187009,
"content": ">>187008 Not him and Didn’t look at the link, wouldn’t load for me. O as a prefix in this context means either big or major. Soto is outside. Uchi means inside. Gari means reap. Osoto gar is the major outside reap and ouchi gari is the major inside reap. A reap is different from a sweep (harai) because you attack the leg from the back of the foot as opposed to the side. These are the major throws because they are typically a stronger attack to the opponent than the minor reaps (kosoto/kouchi gari)"
},
{
"poster": 187010,
"content": ">>187009 Thanks for that, It answered some different questions"
},
{
"poster": 187024,
"content": ">>186985 I don't think he's an authority on things outside of BJJ, but I definitely listen to what he has to say. He has dedicated his life to grappling/coaching, it would be retarded to think he doesn't have some valuable insight. >>187009 Great reply. This is how I remember stuff. Things sort of start to stick once you wrap your head around a few throws"
},
{
"poster": 187027,
"content": ">>186929 >no-gi BJJ/submission grappling/whatever >5ish years Question to judo bros: how did you develop your foot sweeps? I've recently gained a better understanding on how to set them up and use rotation, but the timing isn't quite there yet. Does it just take time? Favorite no-gi grips?"
},
{
"poster": 187029,
"content": ">>187027 Dirlling and really get a feel for your opponent's weight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ue hNAhi2JU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ue hNAhi2JU You will probably find this helpful"
},
{
"poster": 187031,
"content": ">>186929 >6 months judo, 6 months nogi How do I go about planning and building a system for my grappling?"
},
{
"poster": 187032,
"content": ">>187024 >He has dedicated his life to grappling No, he's dedicated his life to BJJ. Standup grappling is a different beast and he clearly has a gap in knowledge and skill when it comes to it."
},
{
"poster": 187038,
"content": ">>187032 nta, but why is there so much hate for him? past the point of talking about thing where he is only be beginner beacuse no one else made some thing for it. Also bjj is grappling, judo is grappling, wrestling is grappling, hell sambo is grappling."
},
{
"poster": 187040,
"content": ">>187031 Start with pin escapes, guard retention, and half guard techniques. This will allow you to stay safe and take risks once you learn submissions >>187032 >clearly has a gap in knowledge His athletes consistently score takedowns at the highest levels of BJJ competitions. Standing techniques are not rocket science. The guy is autistic and obsessed with grappling from all angles. He’s not the #1 wrestling coach of all time or anything, but he knows what he’s talking about and organizes information in a very productive way. I’ve literally drilled his techniques with D1 wrestlers who did not have corrections lol >>187038 Some crybaby wrestler nobody made a reddit/youtube rant about a Danaher technique flaw, and now the contrarians parrot this idea constantly. Gatekeeping bullshit"
},
{
"poster": 187041,
"content": ">>187040 >pin escapes, guard retention, and half guard techniques. Thank you, but one question what should be the first submission? Like an armbar, rear naked? Just so I have a goal with a passive white belt."
},
{
"poster": 187042,
"content": ">>187040 >His athletes consistently score takedowns at the highest levels of BJJ competitions BJJ competitions aren't a good measure of takedown ability. Taking down a BJJ guy who will flop to guard if you get him 50% of the way down is different than a standup grappler who will fight you every step of the way. >I’ve literally drilled his techniques >his techniques lmao >>187038 >but why is there so much hate for him? He's a pseud. His track record for coaching successful athletes in BJJ can't be denied, but he Dunning-Kruger'd himself into thinking he's an expert at every single martial art. Doesn't help that bjjfags like >>187040 suck his dick all the time."
},
{
"poster": 187045,
"content": ">>186940 I find bjj more open minded regarding takedowns. So you can find out what suits you. If you like single legs or prefere a saio nage or a snap down you can do it. At least in the judo gym I trained they where pretty opposed to any leg grabs…"
},
{
"poster": 187067,
"content": ">>187027 Drill, drill, drill, and then drill some more. While you’re still keep your grips as loose and light as possible. It encourages you to flow with the movement of the opponent. When you grip and move hard you may feel like you’re getting a better workout but it tempts you to apply strength instead of searching for the ideal position to be in to take your opponent bent down. There’s an Olympian at my dojo. He’s fucking huge but drills and spars incredibly light until the exact moment he’s about to take your ass out lol."
},
{
"poster": 187068,
"content": ">>187027 Oh, I forgot >favourite no gi grips I tend to fight from a belt grip in gi and a low sleeve grip because it keep the opponent from being able to utilize his power hand on me. When I do nogi it’s essentially the same thing, low wrist grip and a underhook around the waist"
},
{
"poster": 187069,
"content": ">>187038 I think in general a lot of people thinks he gives off pretentious vibes, but he is obviously a good ground fighting coach I don’t think anyone can dispute that based on his fighters records. However over in judo general right now you can find a post with a screenshot where an expert breaks down the fact that his stand up grappling is lacking and his instructionals are poor. His positions are off, his grips bad, etc. from watching him as a humble judo shodan with only local tournament medals to my name, I say without a hint of doubt or irony that I could toss him fairly easily. >>187041 There’s a term in judo we use call tokui waza, or in English, winning technique. Most high level competitors really only have two or three techniques they consistently use in both standing and ground work. Don’t worry about learning techniques in a specific order just give them all a shot. Your tokui waza comes to you through practice and chances are you have no choice in what you end up doing. When I was a mid level colored belt I tried so hard to be a tai otoshi fighter. My tai otoshi still sucks years later. It just wasn’t for me. Conversely, I am an incredibly good Ogoshi fighter. No bullshit, I don’t even need to turn it into harai goshi most of the time. It’s the first throw I ever learned and I’m still doing it ten years later. It’s what works well for me and my body type. >>187045 >bjj is more open minded regarding takedowns Come on now anon. I can’t tell you how many blue belts have told me they won’t do turning throws because “They’ll just take your back” before I immediately throw them with a turning throw."
},
{
"poster": 187075,
"content": ">>187041 >first submission Something you can do from top or bottom, like armbars, triangles, kimuras. Guillotines are great too. It doesn't really matter, just try to learn a lot about whatever you choose"
},
{
"poster": 187081,
"content": "Are neck bridges a good excersise or dangerous? Apparently Tyson has severe neck issues from them Idk if they're worth doing or not"
},
{
"poster": 187088,
"content": ">>187081 I feel like the dead lift any perceived benefits are far outweighed by the damage to the spine"
},
{
"poster": 187090,
"content": ">>187088 I agree. Just do squats"
},
{
"poster": 187092,
"content": "A japanese man fused wrestling with sambo and judo during the 90s, it was called submission arts wrestling"
},
{
"poster": 187096,
"content": ">>187081 Not worth the risk, too much compression on the spine. Just do neck raises in different directions with a bit of resistance (or train a lot)"
},
{
"poster": 187097,
"content": ">>187075 >top or bottom Why didn't I think of this, thank you. >>187069 Thank you that really was useful. >tokui waza It was a judoka who told me I should come up with a system. To start with the end game and build from there."
},
{
"poster": 187102,
"content": ">>187069 > Come on now anon. I can’t tell you how many blue belts have told me they won’t do turning throws because “They’ll just take your back” before I immediately throw them with a turning throw So nobody stopped you mid sparring and told you an o goshi isn’t allowed here… That what I was told in judo, as I went for a leg. Sure lots of bjj guys don’t do much Judo throws because they are not that easy to perform. I also prefer a single leg because my judo throws suck and I always get countered. But I can try them as often as I want."
},
{
"poster": 187105,
"content": ">>187097 >It was a judoka who told me I should come up with a system If you really want to get system-pilled, I would work on one of the OG Danaher systems (kimura, armbar, triangle, RNC, front headlock). They include entries from everywhere and specific control/breaking mechanics"
},
{
"poster": 187110,
"content": ">>187090 and RDLs are a good exercise too, but the standard olympic deadlift is just not a useful exercise it carries no particular benefit that can't be done safely with other movements and I always get haters listening to their 70 year old gym teachers, the same people that stretch before a workout and obstinately stand in the face of all research done over the last many decades so I put it to them this way, when you're working out the goal is failure, failure happens at the weakest point in the system, during a dead lift that's your back your back is what will fail under the several hundred pounds. The injury is inevitable"
},
{
"poster": 187114,
"content": ">>187105 >system-pilled, I would work on one of the OG Danaher systems System-pilled seems like the way to be. It removes a lot of confusion by having a plan. I have been looking at ets armbar as I have already had some success with armbars."
},
{
"poster": 187118,
"content": ">>187114 The armbar one is great. I would highly recommend the kimura one too, you can snag a kimura everywhere and often transition to the back or another sub. The back attack system is also great but his newer instructional is probably better than the OG"
},
{
"poster": 187121,
"content": ">>187118 thanks and good to know, I will be back in 12 hours."
},
{
"poster": 187201,
"content": ">>186929 > a year of nogi what is a good brand of shorts and rash guards? I bought some from aliexpress that are wearing out now."
},
{
"poster": 187204,
"content": ">>187201 I like Sanabul. Good price-to-performance ratio. Inverted Gear is on the pricier side, but their customer service is great."
},
{
"poster": 187205,
"content": ">>187204 Looks good thanks"
},
{
"poster": 187330,
"content": "I've slowly ramped up my training in the last few months to where I'm now training 7-8 times a week. (bjj blue belt) >grappling (submission wrestling & freestyle wrestling) 4-6 times a week >striking (boxing/muay thai) 1-2 times a week, been doing striking for 2 years but had a pause from it >lifting 1-2 times a week In striking I'm still developing and it's fun, but in grappling it feels like I'm hitting a plateau and not developing. I mean I'm not tapping people out as frequently and ppl I used to handle fairly easily I now have to take more seriously. Paradoxically I also feel like I want to train even more and it feels like the 1.5 hours of grappling (standard length for a class) isn't enough and like I want to do two a days, it feels like there is so much to work on and I don't get enough time to do that. So at the same time I want to train even more, but also it seems like I'm plateauing and I'm also growing frustrated with grappling altogether. Give me some advice fellas."
},
{
"poster": 187331,
"content": ">>187330 If you didn't grow up doing a ton of sports or otherwise lots of physical activity, you're probably burning the candle too hot. Take a break for a week, or take a month of week long breaks from each individual thing. Eat more/better quality food. Take a nap in the middle of the day. You need rest as much as you need training."
},
{
"poster": 187346,
"content": "haven't been to class in a week fellas, every day I'm not there I feel better maybe I should stop going! lol"
},
{
"poster": 187347,
"content": ">>187346 same, today is my first day going back and leaving the house in weeks"
},
{
"poster": 187368,
"content": ">>187330 Normal blue belt stuff. You're just getting started. I agree with the other anon though, that's likely too much training unless you're extremely disciplined with your diet, sleep, etc. Usually how people get injured"
},
{
"poster": 187377,
"content": ">>187331 I did thaiboxing since I was 15 till 18, started bjj at 20 now 23. So I’ve been active since 15, but yea I’ve never trained as much as I do now. Thx for the advice. Getting in an adequate amount of food without resorting to fast food is hard lol >>187368 What are some telltale signs that I’m doing too much? Right now as far as sleep, food and stress goes, I’m good because I’m an uni student so pretty much make my own schedule and sleep atleast 8 hours a night."
},
{
"poster": 187396,
"content": ">>187110 Sorry but this is just nonsense >the standard olympic deadlift is just not a useful exercise It builds strength your entire posterior chain and specifically trains the hip hinge movement (you know, bridging). It also builds up your back to be strong and stable under heavy loads >it carries no particular benefit that can't be done safely with other movements All of the alternatives either can't be overloaded as much or use a smaller range of motion, both of these are extremely important if you want to build strength that actually transfers outside of the weight room >when you're working out the goal is failure That's *only* the case when exercising for muscle hypertrophy (aka getting swole). Virtually everyone will tell you that on certain lifts, particularly those that are highly technical, going to failure is retarded. Deadlift is one of those lifts, that's why everyone trains it with low reps >The injury is inevitable Only if you're an egolifting retard. Train with good form, exercise basic common sense and you will never get injured"
},
{
"poster": 187401,
"content": ">>187396 this guy gives all the talking points I was going to type so I'll just have him explain it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DK UZguJMB0"
},
{
"poster": 187402,
"content": ">>187377 >signs The kind of frustration you're experiencing is sort of a classic sign. Unfortunately, as anon said, it's also usually a fact of life for blues who arent really stressing themselves otherwise. Sussing out which one you're experiencing directly tends to be difficult for even people who know what it is. If you're in school also however, my money is on some light burn out. Take a light week of as much as you can and see how you feel. If you're a partier, you could also just cut that out in total and see good results overall."
},
{
"poster": 187403,
"content": ">>187402 >week of week off"
},
{
"poster": 187404,
"content": ">>187401 I just skimmed through it but many of the problems he lists are caused either by poor form or a poor training routine The only real concern imo is whether or not it transfers well to sports and that is very dependent on which sport we're talking about. I believe that in terms of specificity, deadlift is great for grappling because it trains strength in hip extension (bridging) and stability of spine under load (posture). In fairness, Oly lifts are almost equally as good in this regard. One could argue that they are better because they are more explosive but I don't think this matters as much in grappling as it does in other sports"
},
{
"poster": 187407,
"content": "90s basic Gracie takedowns still work?"
},
{
"poster": 187418,
"content": ">>187407 running tackle? sure, why not"
},
{
"poster": 187425,
"content": ">>187407 Against untrained people? Yeah probably"
},
{
"poster": 187446,
"content": ">>187407 >90s basic Gracie takedowns still work? Yes but why? There are alot of better stuff out there for free on the internet."
},
{
"poster": 187606,
"content": ">>187446 >Yes but why? These are the simplests takedowns I can think of"
},
{
"poster": 187618,
"content": ">>186929 >3 years of hs wrestling and 2 years of nogi might start judo soon >conditioning When I was in hs my coach would come up with conditioning plans so I never thought about it. Right now I am just doing a stupid amount of Squat jumps, dips and pull ups with jump rope for cardio. Is there a good plan or template to follow?"
},
{
"poster": 187623,
"content": ">>186929 Anyone know a good instructional for sambo style rolling/diving subs"
},
{
"poster": 187625,
"content": ">>186954 >blowjitsu nerds Kek. You judo guys are alright. >t. 3rd degree blowjitsu nerd"
},
{
"poster": 187668,
"content": ">>187625 Come to the dark side anon. Trust me, there’s no better sound in the world than “IPPON!”."
},
{
"poster": 187669,
"content": ">>186940 Only knowing rolling on the mats on a street is worse than knowing nothing. Because going to ground is by far the worst thing you can do in a street fight. If you are on a ground and a dude takes out a knife.. If you are on a ground and it turns out the dude has 3 psychopath friends who were in a pub... If you are on a ground at night and it turns out the ground is covered in broken glass... If you are on a ground and a dudes girlfriend comes around a corner stabs at you with her stiletto... If you are on a ground and an uninvolved stranger decides to intact his form of justice... If you are on a ground and there is a dog... If you are on a ground you have traded 100% of your mobility to immobilize one dude and you hope the rest of the world will stand still for you."
},
{
"poster": 187680,
"content": "I'm going to start my grappling training by only doing wrestling and no-gi How badly will I be looked down upon by the other bjj nerds who also do gi?"
},
{
"poster": 187689,
"content": ">>187669 >If you are on a ground and it turns out the dude has 3 psychopath friends who were in a pub... \"hey 3 psychopath friends i currently hold your friend in a very compromised grappling position, do not get near me or i will dislocate his tendons in this special way that will require a 20,000 dollar surgery to fix and he will might have to limp for the rest of his life\""
},
{
"poster": 187690,
"content": ">>187689 >Gets imprisoned for 10 years because he broke someone's limb after they gave up"
},
{
"poster": 187691,
"content": ">>187690 >this doesn't actually happen"
},
{
"poster": 187692,
"content": ">>187680 No one cares >t. haven't trained in the gi for the past 3 years If your gym only has no-gi like once a week I would advise gi training just to get maximum mat time."
},
{
"poster": 187697,
"content": ">>187692 Wouldn't doing wrestling instead for the other two days give me a better use of my time"
},
{
"poster": 187698,
"content": ">>187697 Nta If you only has 2 days to train its all good but if you want more mat time doing gi won't hurt"
},
{
"poster": 187703,
"content": ">>187698 Yeah you know what on second thought I will keep my gi just in case my shifts don't align with the wrestling and no gi"
},
{
"poster": 187706,
"content": "Is it me or UFC's heavyweight has some pretty poor grappling? Why is it so hard for elite grapplers to appear in this weight class?"
},
{
"poster": 187707,
"content": ">>187706 Because while testing may not be perfect or uncorruptable in the UFC, it doesn't exist at all for the ADCC headliner types. Pretty sure the last guy who'd be considered elite at both is being headlocked in OP's pic, and I don't think he has a great relationship with the promotion/Dana."
},
{
"poster": 187710,
"content": "Chickened out of going to my first bjj fundamentals class tomorrow :("
},
{
"poster": 187711,
"content": ">>187706 Because if you're a huge athletic dude, you might as well go into the NFL or the NBA where you're getting close to a million for your base salary versus MMA where you get paid gas money."
},
{
"poster": 187717,
"content": ">>187710 why"
},
{
"poster": 187720,
"content": ">>187710 Just go man. If it's a good gym the anxiety will go away, you'll slowly make friends. Just roll and ask questions, and show up"
},
{
"poster": 187721,
"content": ">>187680 No one cares, I mostly do nogi"
},
{
"poster": 187739,
"content": ">>187717 I didn't have time to stay on top of hygiene, and looked like a mess. I didn't want to look like a homeless person on my first day. also didn't get much sleep"
},
{
"poster": 187757,
"content": ">>187739 if hygiene is an issue for you you're gonna have problems at bjj aside from the skin infections if you're the smelly guy you get labeled that real fast and everyone knows it"
},
{
"poster": 187832,
"content": ">>187669 >take people to the ground every street fight I’ve ever been in in my life >never lose because no one generally actually knows how to grapple >punch people while they helplessly squirm on the ground unable to escape I don’t know why you fags are so scared of ground fighting"
},
{
"poster": 187845,
"content": ">>187832 Whenever I'm out in public and encounter dangerous people it's generally a mix of one single person Vs multiple, so I guess ground fighting does have its place. Also sometimes you can't just ko a person with punches so takedown and control would be preferred Saying that I have no grappling experience and each one of my self-defense situations has been a flurry of punches and then both leaving the scene before police arrive"
},
{
"poster": 187891,
"content": ">>187832 It's pure cope. I watch tons of these stupid street fights and it's very often 1v1, and it very often goes to the ground. Muh streets fags always talk up gang jumping and weapon scenarios like they're gonna box through 5 guys with knives it's fucking stupid. They wank off \"scenarios\" but ignore the ones in which grappling would be useful or the fact that just because YOU don't want to go to the ground doesn't mean you won't end up there. And being able to fight your way back to your feet is incredibly useful"
},
{
"poster": 187936,
"content": ">>187891 >just because YOU don't want to go to the ground doesn't mean you won't end up there sure it does though, because I know how to grapple literally unless you're D1 wrestler tier you're not getting me to the ground unless I choose to go there"
},
{
"poster": 187939,
"content": ">>187936 You could still be taken down by surprise. This is more about \"muh streets\" retards who don't train grappling at all and think it's useless."
},
{
"poster": 187997,
"content": "Does nogi really have every grappling art techniques except gi techniques?"
},
{
"poster": 187999,
"content": ">>187997 In theory, yes. In practice, no."
},
{
"poster": 188000,
"content": ">>187997 You can see the banned lists for the things it doesn't. Cranks, can opener, etc. Pretty much anything that's \"safe\" enough to practice regularly, by rule, does not contain all techniques of any kind."
},
{
"poster": 188002,
"content": "I train at B-Team. Ask me anything."
},
{
"poster": 188003,
"content": ">>188002 Do you suck dicks?"
},
{
"poster": 188006,
"content": ">>188003 Only if you're cute. Like Nick Mataya."
},
{
"poster": 188022,
"content": ">>187997 In theory yes, but some techniques aren't used or taught because they're banned 99% of time"
},
{
"poster": 188037,
"content": ">>188002 No you don't. I'm the b-team guy that started the AMAs. Name the front desk guys"
},
{
"poster": 188536,
"content": ">>188037 >>188002 Do they restock their rash guards every?"
},
{
"poster": 188643,
"content": "Why is armbar more common than kimura?"
},
{
"poster": 188666,
"content": "How long did it take your rolling cardio to improve? I hate getting gassed like a bitch"
},
{
"poster": 188676,
"content": ">>188643 I'm not sure it is"
},
{
"poster": 188712,
"content": "is basic wrestling + knowing how to do guillotine, armbar, RNC, kimura more effective for combat than getting into BJJ"
},
{
"poster": 188736,
"content": ">>188712 >is basic wrestling + BJJ better than just BJJ? Yes? Weird ass question. If you're asking if larping and trying to learn subs off YouTube is better than just doing nogi BJJ then nope"
},
{
"poster": 188756,
"content": ">>188736 Hey now do go calling submissiom wresling nogi bjj Wrestling implies a certain level of expertise in stand up grappling, 10 year bjj practitioners don't even know how to do a proper single leg or hand fight"
},
{
"poster": 188761,
"content": ">>188756 dude you just grab one or two legs it's not rocket science"
},
{
"poster": 188765,
"content": ">>188756 Don't call yourself a submission grappler if you don't train subs"
},
{
"poster": 188766,
"content": ">>188765 I'm a domination grappler"
},
{
"poster": 188768,
"content": ">>188761 >bro just turn around to do a hip throw it’s not rocket science >bro just kick their leg to do a foot sweep it’s not rocket science >bro just fall down to do a sacrifice throw it’s not rocket science >bro just kick them in the groin to do uchi mata it’s not rocket science >bro just roll over to do a guard sweep it’s not rocket science >bro just grab their arm to do an arm lock it’s not rocket science >bro just put your arm around their neck to choke them it’s not rocket science >bro just get better position it’s not rocket science >bro just get up if they try to pin you it’s not rocket science >bro just hold them down to pin them it’s not rocket science >bro just win it’s not rocket science No one needs to train grappling anymore just read this post and you’ll have it nailed"
},
{
"poster": 188769,
"content": ">>188765 don't call yourself a grappler at all if you can't take someone down"
},
{
"poster": 188800,
"content": ">>188769 I can take someone down though."
},
{
"poster": 188824,
"content": ">>188765 I'm a rape grappler."
},
{
"poster": 188840,
"content": ">>188824 I would consider rape a submission technique desu"
},
{
"poster": 188983,
"content": ">>186929 Yesterday i rolled with the huge boobs white belt, she stank like a motherfucker jesus christ."
},
{
"poster": 188994,
"content": ">>187377 Well you are young so you still can train that much and probably recover fully. But as other anons have said you might wanna take some time off. Overtraining is a real thing and it creeps up on you slowly and it's an bitch to recover from. Also something else to consider, maybe you need a little step back to open your eyes. Sometimes being in the thick of it blinds us to obvious things"
},
{
"poster": 188995,
"content": ">>187680 Most people seem to prefer no-gi around here, so my bet is no one will care."
},
{
"poster": 189002,
"content": "I went for my first BJJ lesson today. I'm trying to take something positive out of it but ultimately It felt really unnatural. I could barely get my legs around the person when I was lying in closed guard. I thought in a real fight I would have my face pummeled in by the time I tried to even wrap one leg around him. Very situational and technical (i.e useless for most people irl) Boxing was way more rewarding from day one. Got bad mat burn on my toes as well. All in all it really put me off. Trying to take whatever positive things I've learnt from it (shrimping, sweeps and one submission) but it really made me wonder why people get so invested in it. Doesn't help I was paired with a white belt and we both didn't really know what we were doing I will probably try wrestling now and if that isn't useful from day 1 I will just give up my grappling journey and go back to striking. I don't doubt that if you are a black/brown belt in bjj you are probably so flexible you can do this crazy shit if the situation arises, but even then you need to have someone wanting to mount you (when is that going to happen?) Or great takedown skills. Thank you for coming to my ted talk"
},
{
"poster": 189007,
"content": ">>189002 You can spar hard and don't risk repeated head trauma as much. All the fun with less risk. Or different risks, if you will, but still not as severe."
},
{
"poster": 189009,
"content": ">>189002 >I could barely get my legs around the person when I was lying in closed guard. That will come in time. People make it look so easy but it isn't a natural position. Unless you're super flexible you'll probably have trouble."
},
{
"poster": 189010,
"content": ">>189009 *have trouble at first, I mean."
},
{
"poster": 189012,
"content": ">>189007 I feel bjj sparring you can sprain, break or injure yourself easily too. One guy on the mats appeared to have bad athletes foot / fungus. The guy I was with had fucked up feet and having them wrapped behind my head practising felt horrible. Idk why they don't just wear wrestling shoes or something, much more hygienic. >>189009 Oh okay, that's a relief. I was kind of embarrassed that I struggled with it. I'm definitely not \"unfit\" so I was shocked I couldn't even get into this basic fundamental position without having to make several adjustments and scooting around awkwardly before hand."
},
{
"poster": 189017,
"content": ">>189012 >One guy on the mats appeared to have bad athletes foot / fungus. Now this actually is a problem, I'd talk to your coach about this. I got something on my face because a guy rolled with athlete's foot - NOT FUN. >>189012 >I'm definitely not \"unfit\" so I was shocked I couldn't even get into this basic fundamental position without having to make several adjustments and scooting around awkwardly before hand. It's using muscles you've never used before especially in your ankles and core (for scooting). How much stretching do you do?"
},
{
"poster": 189023,
"content": ">>189002 Not all positions/techniques are gonna work well for your body and your opponent. Guard is important but if you don't like you don't have to focus on playing out of it if you don't like it. Work on sweeps out of it. You just started so it's extra awkward as well. Most newbies I see cannot hold guard AT ALL it just instantly gets broken. Nothing strange there. Also are you doing gi or nogi?"
},
{
"poster": 189033,
"content": ">>189017 The issue is as a brand new person how can I come into that gym and on the first day point out hygiene issues"
},
{
"poster": 189034,
"content": ">>189023 I did the gi fundamental class. I was more keen on doing no gi to begin with but don't know if they will accommodate a beginner or if I'd just be wasting my time"
},
{
"poster": 189094,
"content": ">>186929 Any tips on reverse z guard?"
},
{
"poster": 189139,
"content": ">>189033 Maybe it would help to frame it more like an innocent question >Hey, I'm kinda new to this and I don't know a lot about these things, one of the guys seemed to have like a skin infection or something, do you think it's safe for me to spar with him? or maybe hiding it behind something else >Coach, is it okay for me to reject someone who wants to spar? One person looked like they might've had some sort of skin condition and I'm kinda afraid of bringing some bug back home to my wife and kids But idk, I'm like the last person to be giving advice on social interaction with how socially retarded I am"
},
{
"poster": 189141,
"content": ">>186929 I was looking at Sakuraba's fights and I noticed he was the og wrestle-jitsu. He focused on take downs and turtle-ing to stand up. anyways my question is what are some good ways to improve my wrestle-jitsu?"
},
{
"poster": 189142,
"content": "I've been doing muay thai for a bit and did BJJ for some small time but liked muay thai better. I've been thinking about doing judo though it's always looked fascinating. Any tips or advice on what to expect coming from a muay thai and BJJ background?"
},
{
"poster": 189144,
"content": ">>189142 Judo will feel similar to BJJ, but there will be a lot more emphasis on stand-up wrestling and throwing your opponent. Ground fighting will feel almost like an afterthought by comparison"
},
{
"poster": 189175,
"content": "why is kani basami banned"
},
{
"poster": 189182,
"content": ">>189175 Because people full send it from the side and blow the other guys knees out"
},
{
"poster": 189326,
"content": ">>187110 >RDLs are a good exercise The one that's either too light to accomplish any strength gains or too heavy to be done without snapping your shit up? >standard olympic deadlift What is an olympic deadlift? Can you show me someone deadlifting on an Olympic stage? You sound like a pencilnecked geek who hasn't spent much time under a barbell. >>187396 Correct. Deadlifting to failure will injury you pretty quickly. I wonder if that's what's given the exercise a bad rep; dumbasses overloading a compound exercise, performing it with cat-backed form and tarding out reps to failure. >>187401 >I'm incapable of formulating an opinion on this because I don't have experience strength training, so here's a video arguing the side of the argument I've decided to agree with. You absolute dimwit."
},
{
"poster": 189330,
"content": ">>189326 if you need to use straps and or a belt you can't do the lift simple as"
},
{
"poster": 189349,
"content": ">>189330 all straps let you do is lift more without worrying about tendons snap >4y of strong men"
},
{
"poster": 189415,
"content": ">>189141 >He focused on take downs and turtle-ing to stand up. >what are some good ways to improve my wrestle-jitsu? You've answered your own question. Play less guard, and if you're on bottom, focus on getting up. Craig Jones's Power Bottom is a good instructional for this style, but you'll need wrestling skills when you're on your feet"
},
{
"poster": 189417,
"content": ">>189349 means you can't do the lift"
},
{
"poster": 189452,
"content": ">>189415 >Craig Jones's Power Bottom looks good, it's all about turtle defense I didn't know Craig jones had so many instructional on wrestling."
},
{
"poster": 189774,
"content": "I need to get better at half guard Is Lachlan Giles's Half guard Anthology a good place to start?"
},
{
"poster": 189780,
"content": ">>189774 I will teach you about half guard I'm something of an expert"
},
{
"poster": 189786,
"content": ">>189774 some say it's the best"
},
{
"poster": 190192,
"content": ">>186929 >nogi >training for 11 months I got sick of training the submission of the day in class but not really getting better. So I spent the last 7 months focused on every thing connected to front headlock. I am happy with my front headlock now but I have zero I idea what to focuse on now, any ideas? >to help you understand my game I have a good buzz saw pass and leg ride"
},
{
"poster": 190312,
"content": "Any of you lift? How do you grapple and go to the gym without the two conflicting? If I lift 3 times a week, will I lose my gains if I go to judo on rest days?"
},
{
"poster": 190314,
"content": ">>190312 Up calories. Proactively lower weight and volume until you have a handle on your body's new needs of effort and recovery."
},
{
"poster": 190365,
"content": ">>190312 Judo is in great part Kuzushi, meaning balance-breaking. You will grab, pull, and push, but you won't be lifting your 60-120kg opponents."
},
{
"poster": 190366,
"content": ">>190312 >>190365 Based pic btw."
},
{
"poster": 190368,
"content": ">>190365 >you won’t be listing your 60-120kg opponents I’m a burger so I had to look up how much that is in Gods true form of customary measurement. 60kg is like 130 lbs. are you suggesting that you can’t lift a 130lb opponent or are you suggesting that lifting people up is not a part of judo? You’re wrong either way I just want to get an idea of how wrong you are."
},
{
"poster": 190383,
"content": ">>186929 >this thread is for people of all grappling disciplines to ask each other about stuff >entire thread is BJJfags recommending BJJ stuff for everything"
},
{
"poster": 190385,
"content": ">>190365 I do judo already. It's just that I need to start hitting the weights ASAP because I'm too weak for my weight class (around 90-100 kg). It's giving me problems against people my own size and bigger."
},
{
"poster": 190434,
"content": ">>187105 >>187114 How you lot are sounding right now, no fights."
},
{
"poster": 190441,
"content": ">>190434 more like this"
},
{
"poster": 190444,
"content": ">>190368 There are techniques where you completely lift the opponent (such as kata guruma), but in most techniques you don't. As I said, it's about breaking the opponent's balance *and then* tripping/throwing them, rather than lifting them completely off the ground and throwing them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnH RhSy8yi4 >>190385 Obviously you do need some strength, especially when going against trained and experienced fighters."
},
{
"poster": 190498,
"content": ">>190441"
},
{
"poster": 190499,
"content": ">>190441 And that's not a flowchart desu its more of a skill tree."
},
{
"poster": 190515,
"content": ">>186929 >wrestling 3 years in HS 1 in uni I have really been working on my left side this last couple months for the first time. It feels like my body is built for it, any tips?"
},
{
"poster": 190517,
"content": ">>190515 >body is built for it isn't*"
},
{
"poster": 190519,
"content": ">>190515 being ambidextrous is a false idol you don't need to be able to do things on both sides. Your body has a strong side and a week side, you aren't symmetrical with your dexterity so its an impossible ask that you're equally good at techniques on each side instead you will have right side moves and left side moves, just like every other martial art does all depending on if your power side is forward or back I agility pass to the left and pressure pass to the right, these are done in conjunction with each other if someone passes to my right my strong arm is able to post on the floor so I wrestle up on a single if someone passes to me left (lmao that never happens because 90% of people exclusively pass to the right) my strong arm is able to post on their body so I frame to half butterfly that's the approach that works. You should have 2 games depending on the side you're fighting with not just 1 and then a shittier version of the same one on the other side"
},
{
"poster": 190520,
"content": ">>190519 >You should have 2 games depending on the side you're fighting with not just 1 and then a shittier version of the same one on the other side. So build a game on my left to force them into my right side game? I could be miss understanding you but that it makes sense. Thanks."
},
{
"poster": 190522,
"content": ">>190520 I think it's something that will just unfold naturally if someone is turtled and I'm to their left I'll start shooting arms in for front chokes or if I'm feeling cheeky go to a truck, and if I'm to their right I'm going to break them down into a back pack I don't think about it, that's just where my reflexes bring me"
},
{
"poster": 190523,
"content": ">>190522 that is very fair"
},
{
"poster": 190573,
"content": ">>190498 yes, How to pass guard 4 n00bz 1. Get them on their back 2. Deny Grips 3. Break Grips 4. Stay Mobile 5. When passing move quickly, aggressively and suddenly 6. If brought down to that mat make space and get to your feet"
},
{
"poster": 190585,
"content": ">>190498 In other words: >be great at escapes and just stand up I would agree with that, as would most of the popular no-gi scene right now (thanks Craig)"
},
{
"poster": 190755,
"content": ">>190441"
},
{
"poster": 190767,
"content": ">>186940 Bjj blue belt here. Wrestling >>> Judo > jujutsu > brazilian jits. It's fun but come on stop the mma circlejerking brazilian jits is low tier martial art. I'll not even start talking about the non-purely grappling MA like sanbo or tai chi."
},
{
"poster": 190769,
"content": ">>190767 >jujutsu It's not purely grappling and can be bullshit depending on the gym."
},
{
"poster": 190773,
"content": "Guys, where can I watch actual naked wrestling videos instead of the fake shit you see on porn sites?"
},
{
"poster": 190777,
"content": ">>190773 Find out who did the consulting work for Eastern Promises. Go from there."
},
{
"poster": 190778,
"content": ">>190777 I asked ChatGPT who did it and it said Andrei Ujica. I looked him up but got no results on wrestling / naked wrestling. So, what are you talking about, anon...?"
},
{
"poster": 190779,
"content": ">>190773 They don't exist. Fetish wrestling is already super niche. Naked wrestling without any sex stuff even more so. Closest you'll get is sumo."
},
{
"poster": 190841,
"content": ">>190779 I see. Thanks. Though I think it weird no one has done it, since it is known the ancient Greeks used to wrestle while nude."
},
{
"poster": 190873,
"content": "I'm sick of seeing this fffifiion davis woman everywhere muh adcc* champion *womens seriously who gives a fuck what she has to say, none of her advice about techniques is applicable or useful to a man because she's never actually rolled against one in a serious environment"
},
{
"poster": 190880,
"content": ">>190873 she hot she has a nice voice she helps my gf become a better training dummy"
},
{
"poster": 190895,
"content": ">>190873 Dern 2 better accent boogaloo"
},
{
"poster": 190897,
"content": ">>190880 >she hot Disagree. Her face is too pointy"
},
{
"poster": 190933,
"content": "hey guys. i've just completed my first bjj competition and i lost 2 of my matches. the flaws i found was that i didnt know much sweeps and on top of that i felt a bit spazzy due to my nerves being off the roof. as soon as i stepped on the mat my heart just went beating rapidly. i am not too sure what to do about my nerves and how should i prepare next time for my upcoming comp?"
},
{
"poster": 190967,
"content": ">>190933 >i am not too sure what to do about my nerves Experience. Once you get comfortable competing, it'll get better. Also some degree of nervousness is good, it keeps you focused and from getting too comfortable"
},
{
"poster": 190974,
"content": ">>190933 The nerves and spazzing is pretty normal, you're dealing with a lot of adrenaline. The only way to mitigate it is to compete a lot, and do a proper warm up. Don't get yourself exhausted, but I like to be just barely sweating before a match. Really helps with adrenaline dump in my experience"
},
{
"poster": 191002,
"content": ">>190967 yes i am going to be competeing again in 2 months time and this time its going to be a round robin so hopefully i can get more time to sparr with others. >>190974 i did do a warm up since my coach insisted to do so but i just couldn't control how i felt. i guess i will compete more which i look forward to"
},
{
"poster": 191028,
"content": ">even if you're not feeling like it you should go to class anyway, you always feel better when you leave and never regret it or you experience a severe injury because mentally you're not engaged enough in the activity or physically may be fatigued and needed the night off t. guy that fell for the propaganda"
},
{
"poster": 191114,
"content": ">>189002 Did you only roll with white belts? Usually what gets most people hooked is getting absolutely manhandled by a purple or brown belt with a 50 lb weight disadvantage who isn't even breaking a sweat. There are some people that make it seem like magic."
},
{
"poster": 191138,
"content": "How important are rides for beginners? I have started \"teaching\" my friend he has good understanding of Half Guard, Pin Escapes, Submission Escapes and Kimura. Is this point a good time to start teaching them to him?"
},
{
"poster": 191154,
"content": ">>191138 Maybe just the dagestani handcuff + claw, and the concept of leg riding. I feel like there are much more important things to work on for a white belt. They should learn some standing techniques and seated guard stuff (retention, foot sweeps, wrestle ups, SLX entries)"
},
{
"poster": 191155,
"content": ">>191121 Pretzel guard is doing things to me, ngl"
},
{
"poster": 191157,
"content": "Hi I want to learn basic grappling, I have a limited time maybe a year or two of learning. I have already trained boxing so know basic striking. I have a choice between wrestling, judo and bjj. All at the same place. I want to stick to one due to time constraints. I want something that I can use for self defence. I am leaning towards wrestling due to: >No washing the gi all the time >heard its easier to learn and get results >Effective with or without clothes to grab Or am I overestimating wrestling as a self defence art?"
},
{
"poster": 191160,
"content": ">>191157 >self defense If you want defense wrestling is the best, stopping takedowns and standing up from the ground are the best things to know in a real fight. Pinning is also a really good way of dealing with someone without legal problems. If you ever want a more aggressive solution learn how to do a rnc. Go for it!"
},
{
"poster": 191163,
"content": ">>191160 Thanks, I instinctively know how to do a rear naked choke. Anyone with half a brain can do it"
},
{
"poster": 191168,
"content": ">>191163 good know all you need to do is learn how to do a triangle, Double Wristlock and heelhook. with does 4 you will be set for life"
},
{
"poster": 191170,
"content": ">>191157 Is there a no-gi class? I would wrestling & no-gi classes if possible >I want to stick to one due to time constraints You have time to cross train"
},
{
"poster": 191173,
"content": ">>191163 not necessarily"
},
{
"poster": 191177,
"content": ">>191157 >self defence Don't grapple. Do more boxing. Yes you're overestimating it. If you really like grappling keep in head it's not so good in real fights and take up wresling. It's still a great experience overall. Judo is better if you live in a cold country because you'll be able to catch their 'gi' all the time. From what I hear you're not russian so don't bother. You can still learn a few skills from judo/bjj on youtube and do it in wrestling class just for fun. >No washing I have to admit this is its own kind of hell."
},
{
"poster": 191180,
"content": ">>191177 Grappling is fantastic in real fights you just can't try locking in arm bars while getting jumped. Multiple attackers will almost always win. People obsessed with muh streets and fighting gangs of thugs should just buy a fucking gun."
},
{
"poster": 191192,
"content": ">>191121 What's the point of this?"
},
{
"poster": 191200,
"content": ">>191192 You need to understand winning on a technicality is the greatest success a bjjfag could ever experience That's why you'll see them doing back flips and hollering in extacy if their opponent gets DQ'd The sport is so unfun th participate in that the most enjoyment you could ever experience is figuring out ways to not play it That's why the ibjjf needed to make a rule that you are not allowed to make your opponent commit a foul anymore The problem was so rampant actually where for example someone would position their opponents leg into an illegal reep causing them to get DQd and then jump up celebrating"
},
{
"poster": 191203,
"content": "Is only grappling enough for self-defense? I'm training judo 2x/week and kickboxing 2x/week but I don't like taking brain damage, especially because I just had surgery on my septum last year. Thinking about just keeping judo or maybe replace kickboxing with no-gi BJJ 1x/week. Can't have a gun in my country."
},
{
"poster": 191204,
"content": ">>191203 I have a black belt in Judo and have only ever dabbled in striking. In my early twenties I got into more scraps than I care to admit, most of which could have been avoided. That said I never felt under prepared with just my judo skills which weren’t even particularly good at the time. Also if you can’t have a gun get some pepper spray at least. That or a small metal flashlight you can keep in your pocket to bash someone with if you need to."
},
{
"poster": 191206,
"content": ">>191204 >That said I never felt under prepared with just my judo skills which weren’t even particularly good at the time. That's nice to know. Guess I will just stick to grappling. >Also if you can’t have a gun get some pepper spray at least. Pepper sprays are illegal too KEK. Yes, my country is cucked. Will think about the flashlight."
},
{
"poster": 191208,
"content": ">>191203 you catch knees to the nose in jiujitsu plenty as well"
},
{
"poster": 191211,
"content": ">>191177 >>191170 Thanks for the advice"
},
{
"poster": 191227,
"content": ">>191200 Why isn't the pretzel guy being punished for stalling? I saw a video a while back where some guy entered a BJJ tournament and he refused to fall resulting in him getting a warning."
},
{
"poster": 191242,
"content": ">>191227 You said it yourself, the rules of bjj are backwards where unlike every other sport in the world a player is allowed to take a purely defensive posture and the other person will get warned for stalling On any other sport someone not falling over would be a demonstration of effective grappling, but in bjj you're expected to just sit on your butt and accept it so you'll get in trouble for it It's truly the worst sport and least effective of the grappling arts Case in point? You will see participants from participants from all other competitive grappling styles take place in BJJ tournaments or do matches under BJJ rules, you will never see BJJ practitioner step into someone else's rule set because they can't, because it sucks and is incomplete and does not give them the requisite tools to face someone outside of their own rules They are the boxers are grappling, they talk tough but will never back it up unless they get to set the time place and manner"
},
{
"poster": 191245,
"content": ">>191227 >Why isn't the pretzel guy being punished for stalling? The onus is typically on the top player to pressure forward and attempt to pass. You can get stalling calls from bottom, but it's usually called on the top guy. Also that vid is pretty short and clearly the end of a match so I imagine the pretzel boy was up on points anyways. This vid is of an IBJJF match, which is the most \"sport\" BJJ ruleset. Rulesets at ADCC are a bit closer to \"combat\" if that's important to you >>191242 >but in bjj you're expected to just sit on your butt and accept it so you'll get in trouble for it What are you talking about? You can pass standing and it's often preferred >participants from all other competitive grappling styles take place in BJJ tournaments or do matches under BJJ rules And they usually lose lol what is your point? Competing in other rulesets does not prove the efficacy of something. Wrestlers are great at pace, aggression, takedowns, but don't know submissions because it's not part of their training. BJJ guys are good at submissions and ground techniques because it's part of their training. Only retards who don't train have this weird 1980s dojo vs. dojo imagination about grappling. Everyone who actually trains learns a little bit of everything, often humbled by the specialists in other grappling disciplines. I've submitted A LOT of wrestlers, pretty easily. But I sure as fuck could not take them down. Which is fine, because those are the things our training has taught us"
},
{
"poster": 191246,
"content": ">>191242 You seem very uninformed. They do penalize stalling now under IBJJF. Also shit like ADCC is open to all grapplers. I would say it's Judofags who are the \"boxing\" of grappling. Train almost exclusively in gi, for Olympic rulesets. They don't even allow their athletes to enter other grappling comps until they retire from judo."
},
{
"poster": 191250,
"content": ">>191246 I have more experience in jiujitsu than probably anybody on this board. Not bragging, just stating the facts it fucking sucks take your average 5 year practitioner of judo, bjj, wrestling bjj loses because he's min maxed and specialized in the least important aspect of grappling >cant do takedowns >cant do pins >cant get off his back it's a pipe dream to then say \"well his submissions are better\", ok fine but since he's lost every positional battle leading up to the submission it would just be a fluke if he manages to pull one off as a hail mary the reality is I don't care how slick you think your submission game is if you've been taken down and pinned on your back unable to move"
},
{
"poster": 191251,
"content": ">>191250 You don't sound experienced you sound like a moron. How is breaking or submitting someone losing? Because of the arbitrary things you define to be more important? I'd rather be taken down than put to sleep. Retard. I see mediocre blue belts submit trial class wrestlers all the time. >buhhhhh he can't do takedowns >buhhhhh he can't pin him >buhhhhh he isn't doing things that are important in other sports"
},
{
"poster": 191258,
"content": ">>191251 >I see mediocre blue belts submit trial class wrestlers all the time >hey it's your first day so you need to start from the knees :^) >also put this gi on so I have so you have a rope around your neck I can tug on :^) >oh and don't neck crank me or use compression holds because those are dick moves and against the rules :^) what ever happened to position before submission? if we accept that as the premise then there's no method by which bjj wins because the practitioner will lose every positional exchange up until the moment of submission, meaning the submission can't manifest itself bjj is a bullet without a gun to fire it you will be taken down and held there. You've lost the fight and all the girls are looking on laughing at you for getting dicked around like that"
},
{
"poster": 191259,
"content": ">>191258 The more you post the more convinced I am you don't train at all. Or just fighting some 90's Gracie straw man of BJJ in your head. You can show up to a nogi open mat and wrestlefuck people as much as you want for the most part. But a straight wrestler will put themselves in subs over and over. Just how they were trained. Same reason a boxer will get his legs chopped off vs muay thai. My gym starts all rolls standing as long as there's space on the mats. But just taking someone down isn't a finisher. People get the takedown then get swept and subbed all the time."
},
{
"poster": 191264,
"content": ">>191259 >But just taking someone down isn't a finisher. People get the takedown then get swept and subbed all the time. just don't actually put any amplitude behind it, that would be against the rules! after all my professor says it's unsafe even though it happens in judo, wrestling, sambo, fucking shuai jiao every day and they're all fine just make sure under no circumstances do you actually lift someone in bjj during your takedowns though, that's simply much too dangerous so it isn't allowed! make no mistake about it, he's allowed to jump crotch first directly at you and drag you to the ground but if you so much as consider not isometrically negative repping his entire sudden body weight gently towards the ground we're calling it a slam and YOU ARE BANNED! the conventions of bjj are deliberately made to insulate the practitioners and declare they're the best by creating rules where what they deem as important is the only stuff that counts the bjj practice room is the only place where you'll hear people complaining that 1 their partners are too strong, and 2 \"he's just holding me there and isn't even moving, it's so boring!!!\" instead of improving the skills to meet the reality they just cope and blame the partner for \"not doing it right\" it's pathetic really"
},
{
"poster": 191283,
"content": "Is MMA wrestling at a high enough level that you can learn to wrestle as an adult through that in a country that doesn't have an oly style wrestling tradition? Or is it better to go through Judo and BJJ if you want to learn general grappling? There are decent Judo places where I live and BJJ ones are a dime a dozen here. I've practiced those two when I was growing up, but wrestling always seemed a bit more fun."
},
{
"poster": 191313,
"content": "Just got Neil Melanson book \"Mastering Triangle Choke\" and in it he talks about how his coach saw his long legs and made him play only guard and triangle choke for 9 months, it forced him develop a really strong triangle game. Would this be a horrible idea to copy? handicap my self greatly for focused improvement in a set goal."
},
{
"poster": 191315,
"content": ">>191313 Focusing on a skill is good, but skills don't exist in a vacuum There needs to be a wholistic approach, if you neglect other skills you won't be good Everyone will just know you're the triangle guy and stay away from those configurations"
},
{
"poster": 191402,
"content": ">>191258 # Not the dude you've been replying to but a good wrestler with a little BJJ is way more dangerous than a good BJJ guy with a little wrestling. I came into jiu jitsu from a wrestling background and ~6 months in I was destroying guys with way more experience than me. I've been teaching a grappling for MMA class at my gym for a few years now. Striking to takedowns, wall wrestling, get on top stay on top, leg rides, wrist rides, wrestle ups, standing out of closed guard, get to the back, etc. and there are guys in my class that have never taken a \"traditional\" jiu jitsu class. At open mats, my students will dominate sport jiu jitsu guys 9 of 10 times. Not always by submission but they will get to a leg ride or shelf and completely shut down the jiu jitsu \"game.\" Biggest weakness is leg locks but that's only because it's next to useless when strikes are involved so I don't teach it. I love jiu jitsu and plan on continuing it, but the excessive guard play and weird rulesetd have really watered it down. Just look at Nicky Rod. He got silver at the biggest event in jiu jitsu without doing any jiu jitsu. He just wrestled and held position and beat some of the best guys in the sport."
},
{
"poster": 191420,
"content": ">>191402 Without kimono, judo and bjj are not good at all."
},
{
"poster": 191423,
"content": ">>191246 >>191242 Apart from every top MMA fighter has dominated with boxing Kickboxing now is a meme mostly for women to show off their legs and feet on tik tok"
},
{
"poster": 191424,
"content": ">>191423 Nah, and If you have an MMA coach doing boxing with you, you have a bad coach"
},
{
"poster": 191434,
"content": ">>191420 I like practicing in Gi, its more fun than their no Gi counterparts, though since I've never wrestled I can't say how that compares to the no Gi stuff I've done. I don't plan on ever becoming a cage fighter nor do I have self-defense delusions, I just want to train and mmaybe compete for fun. In that scenario everyone will either be wearing a Gi or not, so the playing field is leveled. I just want to know whether the kind of wrestl you'll see in a MMA gym holds up to the technical level of Judo and BJJ in a country where there's no ingrained wrestl tradition."
},
{
"poster": 191437,
"content": ">>186929 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xT 1rfX-nV0 Why are you so gay?"
},
{
"poster": 191441,
"content": ">>191434 I prefer the gi against people that are worse than me, and no gi against people that are my level or better The gi is just a power fantasy, because not only is the conventional grappling ability better but also you have a weapon that the other person doesn't know how to use effectively, so it's like 2 different skills at play and they just compound on each other The gi is what makes people feel like a wizard when you're a beginner Actually I believe that is the reason this BJJ schools make it mandatory for beginners to start with a Gi on, and in most places you aren't even allowed to do no gi classes until you become more advanced The gi helps sell the lie when Chad walks in and the 110lbs female purple belt strangles him But a toddler could choke you out with a rope around your neck. It wasn't her jiujitsu, it's the force multiplier of having a collar ergonomically designed to choke people which she knows how to use and Chad doesn't It's a really small ask to have someone grab a collar and move it 1.5 inches to the middle There wasn't any grappling there, just a crutch Nogi is the skill check Instead of getting this perceived perceived superiority because someone gave you a belt, your reputation is what matters"
},
{
"poster": 191444,
"content": "This sounds retarded but How I takedown someone that its always \"running away\"?"
},
{
"poster": 191446,
"content": ">>191441 To be fair, that'll work against a complete beginner no gi as well. They have no concept of underhooks and give up their back constantly. Even a 100lb female can strangle a full grown man if they've got a locked up RNC. It's definitely not as easy as in the gi, though. I don't do much in the gi anymore because of all the meme guards but I still enjoy it from time to time. My gi game just looks about the same as my no gi game. Just more ways to strangle."
},
{
"poster": 191453,
"content": ">>191444 Low singles are one of the only takedowns you can hit reliably without tie ups. Circle out and shoot in to grab their near ankle when they step in, head inside."
},
{
"poster": 191458,
"content": ">>191424 Yes, your muay Thai spinning leg kick is going to fuck up Derrick Lewis"
},
{
"poster": 191470,
"content": ">>191441 You sound butthurt"
},
{
"poster": 191476,
"content": ">>191470 I'm not but I'll tell you this, always makes me lol when people do get butthurt about nogi receiving belts like \"that's so stupid, you're not wearing a gi and you're getting a belt promotion\" nigga you're wearing a ninja costume and you think that guy looks stupid?"
},
{
"poster": 191585,
"content": ">>191476 >arguing with a point no one ITT made shiggy"
},
{
"poster": 192415,
"content": "I've been training boxing recreationally for a while now, with no serious sparring as I do it for fun and don't want to lose brain cells. I'm kinda bored of it now and can do some bag work myself but I want to start either judo or bjj. I like the standup and throws from judo and ground game of bjj, but not sure which to start first. I'm not sure if judo can be trained recreationaly/amateurish as it seems most school teach for competing or kids, BJJ on the other hand... Also, judo to me personally seems more fun but also might be more injury-prone, I'm in my 30s so no spring chicken here. Any advice?"
},
{
"poster": 192416,
"content": "really horny for godinez and i can tell the announcer is too"
},
{
"poster": 192419,
"content": ">>192415 judo is harder"
},
{
"poster": 192420,
"content": ">>192415 https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/47/18/ 1139 >Systematic literature review published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine >Injury risks from Olympic Games data, with average risks reported between 11.2–12.3% >Other studies showing risks as high as 23–29% https://bjjbear.com/bjj-injuries/ >9 out of 10 athletes sustain at least one injury >6-month injury incidence rate of 59.2% Personally, I prefer Judo. Despite what BJJ/MMA tards on this board will say, newaza includes submission grappling & has everything you could really need. It's much simpler than BJJ but that's ok because half the shit in BJJ never gets use unless you're competeing in a strictly BJJ tournament. Judo is efficient in the ring & in the street it's frequently a 1 throw KO and works against multiple targets. BJJ is only really dominant in the ring & has 0 multiple opponent applicability. Judo is the more rounded choice. But ultimately train what is available at your preferred level of intensity cause, you're right, many judo schools train with the olympics in mind."
},
{
"poster": 192422,
"content": ">>192420 >BJJ is only really dominant in the ring & has 0 multiple opponent applicability what martial art would you says is?"
},
{
"poster": 192424,
"content": ">>192420 Thanks for the advice, it all makes sense, one point, I have a feel unless you're good at breakfall at all times, injuries during judo throws can be much more severe but maybe that's my fear from the past bone-breaking talking. I'll have a look at a few judo schools in my town and see what level I can train there, if at all. I always liked it more, it's just bjj is super popular nowadays days and judo is still kids or tryhard level."
},
{
"poster": 192427,
"content": ">>192422 Boxing-or-Muay Thai+ Judo. Supplement with Eskrima/Kali/Arnis if you're going to carry a knife. Kendo if you're an older gent & use a cane. And since the argument will inevitably devolve into 'muh guns,' yes. Marksmanship is a martial art. >>192424 >good at breakfall at all times It's not difficult to be good at & any school worth their salt will have you extensively drill breakfalls before progressing with you. It's not that bad once you get used to it. You have to learn to go loose & spread the force across your whole body. It is jarring but you reduce the chance of injury by distributing the force. Most injuries during breakfalls are from fighting it and trying to catch yourself."
},
{
"poster": 192499,
"content": ">>192427 I'm not really looking into it for self defense purposes mainly for fun and sport though"
},
{
"poster": 192500,
"content": ">>192499 Well then you might be more into BJJ. You're more likely to find an easy going class."
},
{
"poster": 192541,
"content": ">>192499 Try both and stick to what you like, it's not a marriage."
},
{
"poster": 192543,
"content": ">>192499 If you want fun your best bet is to avoid anywhere run by Brazilians They take it way too seriously and are really cringe homos about it"
},
{
"poster": 192545,
"content": ">>192499 >mainly for fun and sport though I would do BJJ then, especially if you're in America. There are a lot of gyms with hobbyists that are just trying to develop a skill and get a workout. This leads to criticisms from the autists on this board, but IMO there's nothing wrong with distilling something to a sport level as long as you have realistic expectations of your ability to defend yourself. Judo is cool but the scene isn't great in the US, and it's a bit harder to just dive in to training and sparring. Boxing and muay thai are cool too but most people don't find getting punched and kicked to be very fun."
},
{
"poster": 192550,
"content": "Another week, another pussying out of starting at the wrestling class. Ive never even done a cartwheel before. Wondering if i should get good at cartwheels and headstands before i go"
},
{
"poster": 192551,
"content": ">>192550 Are cartwheels and headstands part of the class because that sounds like a fucking retarded gymteacher class If you're doing anything other than skill work in a class you're having your time wasted"
},
{
"poster": 192554,
"content": ">>192551 My dude idk if you know what youre talking about. You need to be able to do crazy shit like that if you want to be safe and comfortable when wrestling, as well as warming your body up"
},
{
"poster": 192555,
"content": ">>192554 Go take a gymnastics class then Do your calisthenics on your own time or have a workout class Warm ups are bullshit time wasters, wrestling class is for wrestling"
},
{
"poster": 192558,
"content": ">>192555 T. Sprains his neck and knee within first minute"
},
{
"poster": 192560,
"content": "Something pretty gay about two near naked guys rolling around on a mat together, almoat as gay as the homo's that watch it."
},
{
"poster": 192562,
"content": ">>192550 Why are you pussying out? If you're new, of course you're going to suck. Not going to get any better by avoiding it"
},
{
"poster": 192563,
"content": ">>192562 Scared ill get thrown at the deep end and suplexed on my head or something. It says beginners welcome though so im hoping i wont be completely thrown to the sharks"
},
{
"poster": 192564,
"content": ">>192550 I feel you, but once you get your first cartwheels it will all be worth it. My first cartwheels at 230lbs was a game changer for everything."
},
{
"poster": 192565,
"content": ">>192558 wrestlers have notoriously bad knees and necks, so perhaps that's something to be said about their training modalities"
},
{
"poster": 192566,
"content": ">>192565 Yeah, don't do 3 a days from age 5 to 25."
},
{
"poster": 192567,
"content": ">>192565 if you look at the training for American wrestling vs other countries you released how much harder they go. Other countries go at a level where it looks like they are just playing with a heavy force on technique."
},
{
"poster": 192568,
"content": ">>192560 Just one takedown and the \"homos\" beat every single martial art in the world"
},
{
"poster": 192582,
"content": ">>192568 Not really, the amount of rule changes made to MMA over the years to make submission grappling more viable is seriously fucking pathetic. Beyond that anyone that isn't a faggot casual knows how the early years went down. The Gracies jewed the fuck out of the UFC and that legacy persists. >Just one takedown Which isn't a focus of BJJ but thanks for pointing out that out. The majority of finishes in MMA are KOs and most grappling is just to get to ground'n'pound."
},
{
"poster": 192583,
"content": ">>192582 UFC is pretty anti submission nowadays. The short rounds resetting position and gloves completely work against it. Knees against downed opponents would be a buff for grapplers btw"
},
{
"poster": 192607,
"content": ">>192583 ground and pound is the best way for any grappler going into mma, it is improved by threatening subs."
},
{
"poster": 192692,
"content": ">>192689 we must end this convention of naming moves after people names must describe the action ude garami with leg assist, I will however also accept chicken wing with leg assist"
},
{
"poster": 192693,
"content": ">>192583 >and gloves completely work against it. MMA gloves don't hinder grappling completely. It might make certain grips harder, but it also makes other moves easier since it provides another surface to grab."
},
{
"poster": 192733,
"content": ">>192692 Danaher calls it a legs kimura, but I'd rather just call it a Tarikoplata and not sound like a weirdo"
},
{
"poster": 192735,
"content": ">>192693 It makes it way harder to lock in many subs. Even RNC is harder with gloves since they add bulk. Harder to snake your hand under chin."
},
{
"poster": 192736,
"content": ">>192607 Well yeah cause people know they can turtle and stall till the round ends and nails them out. With GnP you at least get some damage in. A lot of people don't understand it's often the guy on defense who is causing these lame sit on top for 3 minutes situations. Harder to get to subs when the other guy is 100% focused on defensive grappling. Let fighters knee grounded opponents to open them up better for subs."
},
{
"poster": 192743,
"content": ">>192735 >Harder to snake your hand under chin. It's MMA. Why bother trying to snake your hand under the chin when you can just punch them?"
},
{
"poster": 192747,
"content": ">>192736 Allowing a headshot upkick during leg entanglements would also change things, especially when it's not really an upkick because both opponents are grounded in some fashion. Puts more pressure on both guys to do something when there's multiple avenues of attack."
},
{
"poster": 192760,
"content": ">>192743 Because we're specifically discussing submissions in MMA?"
},
{
"poster": 192762,
"content": ">>192760 But you're thinking in terms of \"adapting sport jiujitsu to MMA\" rather than \"submissions in MMA\"."
},
{
"poster": 192787,
"content": ">>192762 A rear naked choke is not sport jiu jitsu. Punches don't guarantee a knockout and if you're losing rounds, you might need to secure a submission to win the fight. You also might be dealing with someone very explosive, and swinging could open up too much space."
},
{
"poster": 192823,
"content": ">>192787 >Punches don't guarantee a knockout and if you're losing rounds, you might need to secure a submission to win the fight. The point is that while gloves might make securing certain submissions harder, they also allow you to ground and pound to open up them easier for submissions, which you couldn't do in pure grappling. It also provides additional gripping points. It's a give and take, not something that purely makes it worse."
},
{
"poster": 192865,
"content": ">see a cool technique on youtube >watch a bunch of videos >try it at gym and fail horribly and everyone beats my ass >repeat cycle with new move this week its the reverse triangle (not inverted), wish me luck fellas"
},
{
"poster": 192866,
"content": ">>191121 id literally just cover his nose and mouth with my hands"
},
{
"poster": 192916,
"content": ">>190192 I had the same experience but instead of front headlock its single leg x. Switched to a gym with a separate fundamentals class and all went better."
},
{
"poster": 192917,
"content": ">>191121 >grab his wrists so he cannot untangle >flip him face down >rnc Would this work?"
},
{
"poster": 192920,
"content": ">>191200 >illegal reap Judofag here what the fuck is an illegal reap?"
},
{
"poster": 192921,
"content": ">>191444 Hop into Osoto Otoshi"
},
{
"poster": 192922,
"content": ">>192551 Cartwheels are used to escape throws, retard"
},
{
"poster": 192939,
"content": ">>192920 Knee reap >as the IBJJF defines it, is “when one of the athletes places his thigh behind the leg of his opponent and passes his calf on top of the opponent’s body above the knee, placing his foot beyond the vertical midline of the opponent’s body and applying pressure on his opponent’s knee from the outside.” Think Ashi Garami, but your outside leg crosses your opponent's midline. It *technically* places some pressure on your opponent's knee and because most organizations prohibit knee attacks for lower belts in competitions, this kinda gets thrown into the mix with heel hooks, kneebars, z-locks and the like"
},
{
"poster": 192956,
"content": ">>192920 Basically Brazilians are so terrified of leglocks that if you even so much as indicate the possibility of going for one you'll get disqualified After all, bjj rules are about protecting the image of bjj, any threat to its image is a ban"
},
{
"poster": 192983,
"content": ">>192866 yeah if you go for a one handed rape choke they need to do something"
},
{
"poster": 192991,
"content": "Redpill me. How much does concrete and no rules fuck up BJJ gameplan? Would wrestling be better?"
},
{
"poster": 192998,
"content": ">>192991 As always, depends. If you're not wearing semi substantial sleeves or pants, top game wrestling can wreck your forearms and knees up. Same thing with your back, head, elbows and ass on bottom. Very generally and at the lowest levels, wrestling is probably better there. But for reasons that almost have nothing to do with grappling."
},
{
"poster": 193002,
"content": ">>192956 >After all, bjj rules are about protecting the image of bjj please, cease your retardation"
},
{
"poster": 193008,
"content": ">>192991 Concrete makes everything dangerous. You can break your hands missing a punch, you can land on your forearms/knees and lose skin, you can't post on your head. The level of wrestling needed for self defense/fighting is so low that I would recommend just finding a legit no-gi BJJ school that has good wrestlers to learn from. In reality you'll likely never get into a fight, so it's really just a hobby choice and I find BJJ training to be much more enjoyable than wrestling practice ever was."
},
{
"poster": 193010,
"content": ">>193002 >t. Guard jumper who demands to be put down gently Reminder that yoshida choked Royce’s ass out and then he cried and pissed himself about it until the officials changed his loss to a no contest solely because yoshida choked Royce out with his own gi which wasn’t even against the rules"
},
{
"poster": 193016,
"content": ">>193010 Ok, fair enough, daki age is the one example where this sorta applies, guard jumpers definitely deserve to get slammed Still, saying this is like saying that wrestling rules are only about protecting wrestling's image because they don't allow choking, or that boxing rules are about protecting boxing's image because ground and pound is illegal. I know hating on BJJ is now in vogue among chronic contrarians, ironic as that statement is, but please at least try to be less retarded >but Royce Gracie Gracies only care about protecting their brand and are no longer considered the authority on, or main ambassadors of, the sport"
},
{
"poster": 193019,
"content": ">>193008 Isn't it better to get good at takedowns for self defence instead of ground work. Messing around in guard looking for subs seems like a nightmare desu compared to getting good at a single leg, dumping the attacker maybe following up with GNP and getting away from there"
},
{
"poster": 193028,
"content": ">>193019 >Messing around in guard looking for subs seems like a nightmare desu Agreed. I never said anything about playing guard. Bottom position is unacceptable in fights. My point is that a wrestling club would ONLY teach wrestling, which has pretty specific rules (locked hands, front headlocks, no submission threats). You could learn enough wrestling to beat the average person at legit BJJ gym with legit wrestling instruction, while also learning submissions, escapes, and control. This is not a A vs. B thing, this is a \"do both\" recommendation. Doing both just tends to happen in BJJ/MMA gyms"
},
{
"poster": 193033,
"content": ">>193028 I'm hugely conflicted whether to do wrestling or just try no gi BJJ. I have access to both. No gi is closer. Part of me thinks wrestling will be harder and I'll more likely fuck myself up. Im 30 years old and in okay shape but definitely not a top tier athlete. I'm concerned about safety and don't want some idiot to neck crank me or leg lock me and cause permanent damage/paralysis. Then again I don't want to just learn sport wrestling if it'll get me fucked up in a real world situation. I'm also shit scared of doing either desu. Everyone online raves about wrestling and says stuff like a wrestler with basic submission skills is much much more dangerous than a \"bjj master\". Also I've been told here that 1 year wrestling will serve me better than 1 year bjj. I have neither the time nor money to do both"
},
{
"poster": 193034,
"content": ">>193028 You should do both, but \"enough wrestling to beat the average person at legit bjj gym\" isn't a good metric to go by. Wrestling in BJJ has gotten better, but it's not at a level where you could say it's universally good. Still plenty for self defense though."
},
{
"poster": 193035,
"content": ">>193033 You need to stop worrying about fights unless you live in a total hellhole city. It's pretty easy to avoid fights. Just train whatever you think you will enjoy more. For me, it's no-gi because I can wrestle if I want, or I can work submissions, or escapes, etc. Wrestling is great but I would not enjoy exclusively training it in my free time. >>193034 >Still plenty for self defense though. That's my point. The guy is worried about fights, not being a good wrestler. BJJ wrestling as a whole is lacking, but my gym is full of D1 wrestlers that finished college and wanted to keep grappling. I've learned a lot."
},
{
"poster": 193038,
"content": ">>193035 I actually do live in a hellhole city. I don't really find the idea of rolling around with sweaty guys for sport fun in itself, but I want to learn something that I can use irl. I understand a takedown on concrete is basically a fight ender so thats why I heard wrestling is far easier and more useful. If that doesn't take them out I can gtfo"
},
{
"poster": 193040,
"content": ">>193038 Just kind of depends how much effort you want to put in. If all you care about is self defense get pepper spray or a gun. A lot cheaper than months of wrestling/BJJ fees. If you want to build skills for self defense, do MMA. Your wrestling will consider the threat of strikes/strangles, and your striking will consider takedowns. But again, it's really not that hard to avoid fights."
},
{
"poster": 193043,
"content": ">>193040 Guns and pepper spray both illegal here unfortunately MMA gyms, they tend to offer one wrestling class a week or one no gi class etc striking classes separate and cost a shot ton for full membership Ive already trained striking and competed so just wanted to have some backup grappling skills to control an attacker if needed"
},
{
"poster": 193057,
"content": ">>193043 >pepper spray is illegal where this anon lives I’m sorry to hear that you’re a Britbrong, in all likelihood the condition will be terminal"
},
{
"poster": 193060,
"content": "Does anyone know what it's called when you're in the clinch with someone, you reach down to place the back of you hand against their inner thigh, and rotate the person so your hand acts as a block which stumbles them?"
},
{
"poster": 193081,
"content": ">>193060 I'm not sure of a name for that, it's just a grip people use."
},
{
"poster": 193116,
"content": ">>193043 >defending myself is illegal Break the law? Just an idea. Also any kind of boxing >>> any kind of wrestling."
},
{
"poster": 193125,
"content": ">>193116 >get double legged"
},
{
"poster": 193370,
"content": "So I was practising my back rolls today and hurt my neck. No one's taught me them, apart from jumping in the deep end when I tried judo and hurt my neck then too. So I'm going on YouTube and trial and error I'm still scared of going wrestling class and especially after this latest escapade. Do I need to master front roll, back roll before i attend this \"beginners welcome\" class or am I wasting time?"
},
{
"poster": 193372,
"content": "I have a trick that sometimes helps my win against better people. When im losing but still have a chance to get out of my predicament or if i feel i may have a chance to put someone in a predicament i let out very loud moan followed by \"yamete senpai\". It catches them off guard. It doesnt always work and usually only works 1 time per person. But it is an ace up my sleeve."
},
{
"poster": 193388,
"content": ">>193370 of course the question you'll have to also ask yourself is why do you need to know how to roll? in all my years I've never not even once needed to roll backwards and any kind of forward roll was done to protect my partner when they get taken down if I fall too I'll roll out instead of landing on top of them. Its for their benefit, not mine"
},
{
"poster": 193391,
"content": ">>193388 Yeah desu I havent the faintest idea why I would need to roll backwards. It just seemed everywhere I read these are fundamental skills to be mastered and I always see videos of grapplers doing crazy rolls and flips. Idk. And when people say it helped them when they slipped etc surely that's just \"don't post your arm and tuck your head\" it's not rocket science.."
},
{
"poster": 193392,
"content": ">>193391 >>193370 If it's not rocket science, how did you fuck up your neck doing back rolls? >>193388 BJJiggers will spend time doing a 1000 reps of inverted tornado berimbolos, but won't learn how to do a basic roll baka"
},
{
"poster": 193394,
"content": ">>193392 >won't learn how to do a basic THIS LEARN TO STAND UP AND FALL DOWN Then start doing crazy shit"
},
{
"poster": 193395,
"content": ">>193392 When I have ever slipped over irl I have never felt the need to do a backward roll. I have only ever fucked my neck up trying to do these awkward gymnastic backward rolls that you never see grapplers do in actual spar/fighting?"
},
{
"poster": 193400,
"content": ">>193395 >backward rolls that you never see grapplers do in actual spar/fighting? Oh yes, you NEVER see REAL GRAPPLERS doing back rolls."
},
{
"poster": 193401,
"content": "NOPE NO BACK ROLLS IN REAL FIGHTING"
},
{
"poster": 193402,
"content": "The extremely fundamental back rolls is FAKE and DOESN'T WORK. You should 360° twisting reverse shrimps for 10000 reps to warm-up."
},
{
"poster": 193410,
"content": ">>193400 where's the real grappling here? a 3rd degree black belt showing off instagram meme techniques on a compliant blue belt >>193401 >mma >real fighting you mean hard contact sparring, because that's what it is >>193402 if the rules didn't prohibit spiking and require the opponent to land on their back she would just have released the grip and sent her flying look, no speed, no amplitude, just a slow gentle descent to make sure she lands in exactly the position needed to score not real grappling"
},
{
"poster": 193411,
"content": ">>193410 If an x-guard overhead sweep is a \"meme technique\" you must be really bad or train with really bad people. Not exactly a complicated setup >in x-guard >you push them away >they push back"
},
{
"poster": 193412,
"content": ">>193370 >>193388 >>193391 >>193395 I don't think anyone should be forced to do warm-ups, but you should know how to to forward/backward rolls correctly. You're not supposed to roll over your neck, it should be over your shoulder. The skill helps with sumi gaeshis, rolling into leg entanglements (victor's roll), getting into turtle, etc... The fact that the contrarianism on this board has reached \"I don't need to do ukemi\" shows that very few actually fucking train"
},
{
"poster": 193414,
"content": ">>193412 the only time in my life when I needed to roll was when I fell off my bike because I hit sand, I forward rolled with so much velocity I went all the way around, back up to my feet and then back down again the judo method of ohh do the honorabu kata demonstration tomoenage and the uke glides all the way around back to standing position is silly esoteric bullshit and a farcry away from something fundemental which you would think it's important since over the course of training they'll do rolls up and down the mat thousands of times just like how shrimping isn't a real move, neither is a diving forward roll"
},
{
"poster": 193416,
"content": ">>193411 ah yes just a moment, allow me to put on this ridiculous ninja costume that resembles no other modern clothing in existence even on a superficial level aside from perhaps a bathrobe, and tailor made with ergonomic handles sewn directly into it and made from a fabric that has absolutely no stretch to it whatsoever then when we go you just sit right down and scoot your butt all the way up to my legs while I stand there and do nothing then you can do your shit ass retarded fucking meme move until then let's actually learn how to grapple if you can't do it to a shirtless man then the move isn't real"
},
{
"poster": 193419,
"content": ">>193410 >>193395 >>193416 Holy Cope"
},
{
"poster": 193423,
"content": ">>193414 >>193416 >but judo bad abloo bloo Wrestlers use back rolls too fuckface, so now you have no excuse for your complete ineptitude at doing a move so simple that literal children can figure out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W7 JbA4ieR4"
},
{
"poster": 193431,
"content": ">>193416 Bro what? Not the dude you're replying to but X guard sweep over your head requires no gi grips whatsoever. I hit this all the time in no gi. And before you sperg out, I'm a wrestler too."
},
{
"poster": 193433,
"content": ">>191250 Based"
},
{
"poster": 193434,
"content": ">>193412 >>193400 My question is do I need to master this in my own time or is this something I will pick up by slowly going to practice?"
},
{
"poster": 193456,
"content": ">>193414 >just like how shrimping isn't a real move, neither is a diving forward roll Again, if you haven't had to shrimp or roll over your shoulders, you don't train often. Most pin escapes require some sort of shrimp, and I just gave you a few examples of shoulder roll uses. Idk where your long autistic rant about demo techniques came from. It's not specific to judo or BJJ, wrestlers roll too. You must know more than everyone despite never training >>193416 >uniform rant >if you can't do it to a shirtless man then the move isn't real X-guard works no-gi lol every sport has rules and a uniform Only mouth breathing retards distill things to \"buhhhh it only counts if _____\" in an attempt to C O P E"
},
{
"poster": 193458,
"content": ">>193434 I wouldn't say you need to spend a bunch of time mastering it, but yeah watch a youtube video or something and try it. The shoulder rolls will help you learn to invert properly, and learning to shrimp correctly will help your pin escapes. The way people shrimp across the mat is usually wrong. Danaher has a FREE solo drills instructional, I would take a look at the shrimp and rolling sections. I have never spent any time doing solo drills, but I've been sure to properly drill shrimps/rolls/inversions when drilling moves that necessitate the movements. You'd be surprised how many people train for years and still don't know how to invert properly"
},
{
"poster": 193468,
"content": ">>193458 Okay, I'll make sure to work on my backwards rolls. I consider myself pretty athletic but feel embarrassed I can't do these \"easy\" things"
},
{
"poster": 193470,
"content": ">>193412 I think everyone should spend at least some time on practicing basic gymnastics. It teaches you how your body moves and how to perform fast, dynamic movements safely. You don't need to spend hours drilling, but I think it would be beneficial to learn the basic rolls and even things like cartwheels and practice them with some regularity, even if it's only a few minutes at a time. If nothing else, it's a pretty decent warmup"
},
{
"poster": 193471,
"content": ">>193458 >Danaher has a FREE solo drills instructional, I would take a look at the shrimp and rolling sections In regards to shrimping, he also goes into autistic detail in his pin escapes instructional, really good stuff for learning how to do it properly and why to do it the way he describes"
},
{
"poster": 193475,
"content": ">>193470 List of what you consider basic gymnastics"
},
{
"poster": 193482,
"content": ">>193475 I guess forward and shoulder roll and their jumping versions, back roll, cartwheel, things like that As a side note, do people really not know how do do these things? Is it not taught in middle/high school PE in your countries?"
},
{
"poster": 193485,
"content": "Since there's the appeal to authority using lachlan happening here Here he is explaining why shrimping isn't real https://youtu.be/hZ57SQhS9AU?si=tUs glIkTniwuwLeA"
},
{
"poster": 193486,
"content": ">>193485 >Since there's the appeal to authority using lachlan happening here Please point out to me where this is happening >Here he is explaining why shrimping isn't real He is showing why it's a poor move in a very specific situation. This does not mean that \"shrimping isn't real\". BJJ gyms usually aren't the most intellectual of environments, but with that comprehension, fourth grade might be a better fit for you"
},
{
"poster": 193487,
"content": ">>193482 No. None of that was taught"
},
{
"poster": 193492,
"content": ">>193485 Read the title retard"
},
{
"poster": 193493,
"content": ">>193486 >in a very specific situation The only situation in which you're told to use that move There's no occasion where you can shrimp where another movement wouldn't be a better choice, and that makes it a bad move How to escape side control? Ayee my fren makee de frame and doe de srimp It's a silly vestigial bullshit technique along side such things as getting hooks and falling off S mount to finish an armbar These actions are bad technique, they're wrong"
},
{
"poster": 193497,
"content": ">>193493 I'm not sure if you're actually retarded or just playing a character, but it stopped being funny around four posts ago Yes, you are taught to shrimp to escape side control, or virtually any pin for that matter. That is correct, because you will need it against anyone that's not half your size. What Lachlan is showing is not escaping side control, it's preventing having your guard passed. The difference is obvious for anyone who's been doing BJJ for a month, if that. But since you're so confident, do show me how you would, reliably, without depending on your opponent to make a mistake, recover from mount without shrimping. Or side control. Or north-south. Or knee-on-belly"
},
{
"poster": 193499,
"content": ">all these wrestling replies Where the FUCK do you learn wrestling in the US ?"
},
{
"poster": 193503,
"content": ">>193499 School."
},
{
"poster": 193535,
"content": "Why don't sumo wrestlers do gymnast style excersises like backwards rolls or cartwheels"
},
{
"poster": 193539,
"content": ">>193497 But you don't need it for anything you've mentioned Are you conflating changing your angle with shrimping or something? Shrimping, the specific action of putting your foot on the floor to scoot your hips away isn't required for anything you've said, and in fact is poor technique Any gym that isn't teaching old archaic shit from 20 years ago you're going to be getting it hammered into you STOP PUSHING OFF THE FLOOR That's something you let white belts get away with because they don't have body control yet. Everyone else should be able to change angles with their legs off the ground entirely For example, side control which is a dumb worthless position in its own right, you can do what's called a wrist bridge to make the space for your knees to come in"
},
{
"poster": 193541,
"content": ">>193535 They do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJD DGh3aglI"
},
{
"poster": 193546,
"content": ">>193539 >nuh uh Refer to the last line of my previous post"
},
{
"poster": 193550,
"content": ">>193541 Wow thanks for this. One more question about rolls.. is it necessary to get proficient at rolling across Both shoulders? one is easier than the other right now"
},
{
"poster": 193551,
"content": ">>193541 Eddie hall btfo UK's best sumo wrestlers on his first try in the sport I wonder how he would do against Japanese ones"
},
{
"poster": 193557,
"content": ">>193539 >Any gym that isn't teaching old archaic shit from 20 years ago you're going to be getting it hammered into you STOP PUSHING OFF THE FLOOR I don't even know what you're talking about at this point. Who teaches this shit? I improved a lot of my escapes with Danaher and Gordon Ryan material, and there is a ton of shrimping (normal and reverse). Their ideas on the subject count a lot more than the contrarian fixation of some autistic fag on 4chan >wrist bridge Where do you get this shit from lol I train at B-Team and there is a lot of shrimping. I've even gone to Renzo's a few times, guess what I saw. S H R I M P I N G"
},
{
"poster": 193558,
"content": ">>193550 Doesn't hurt to learn both but I wouldn't spend a ton of time on it, just do it before/after class or at open mat."
},
{
"poster": 193561,
"content": ">>193546 Even someone on your side knows there's dozens of escapes from every position you mentioned that don't involve a shrimp, I'm being merciful by not giving you a full on lesson about them >>193557 Definitely not None of the good people there are putting a foot on the floor to scoot their hips away. It's amateurish and bad technique As I already defined it, shrimping is not merely changing the direction your hips are facing, it's pushing off the floor with your foot to scoot away and change direction"
},
{
"poster": 193563,
"content": ">>193561 >None of the good people there are putting a foot on the floor to scoot their hips away. It's amateurish and bad technique >it's pushing off the floor with your foot to scoot away Yes and what is the flaw there? You haven't poked holes in anything you just keep repeating yourself with 0 technical insight. In side control, most escapes rely on making space somehow, and then putting a wedge between you and the other person. This can be done many ways, and one of those ways is a bridge + shrimp to move your hips. You can also shrimp in mount escapes. The shrimp done up and down the mat during warm ups is bad technique, but there is a right way to do it and it's extremely useful. How the fuck is putting your feet on the mat bad? How the fuck do you bridge without putting your feet on the floor? You're retarded and don't train lol what kind of autism am I dealing with"
},
{
"poster": 193565,
"content": ">>193563 A bridge yes, a shrimp no A shrimp is a wasted movement that loses connection, You need connection even when escaping, if you give up your connection it's an opportunity for your partner to fill the void with his instead Jiujitsu is a battle of real estate There isn't anything a shrimp does for you that wouldn't be better accomplished by something else, there's no circumstance in which it's your best possible choice And also to answer the earlier question about where wrist bridge came from We're trying to avoid the appeals to authority here, but that term came from caio terra who respectfully has more championships than all of b-team put together So it's the winning kind of autism"
},
{
"poster": 193567,
"content": ">>193565 >A shrimp is a wasted movement that loses connection, >You need connection even when escaping, if you give up your connection it's an opportunity for your partner to fill the void with his instead This makes no sense. How can you put space between you without breaking the connection? You need help. Find the flaw genius: https://youtu.be/cuXq-k__9lQ?si=2bJ o9tGjqwbX0suR&t=650 >that term came from caio terra I have no doubt in Caoi Terra as a figure in BJJ but I've never heard \"wrist bridge\" and have no idea how it negates the idea of moving your hips in a bottom pin."
},
{
"poster": 193572,
"content": ">>193567 The issue isn't about moving your hips, its the mechanism of pushing off the floor to move your hips I'll explain it this way, lay on the floor with your legs up like you're playing Go to your side like someone is trying to pass in that direction so you have one leg on top and 1 on bottom Now switch the orientation to the other side Go back and forth, re-center sometimes as well You should be able to do this without putting your feet on the floor, and if you can't then you need to work on that skill If your foot is pushing against the floor to move your body it means your leg isn't helping secure your frames You're taking a limb out of play unnecessarily because you haven't developed the skill to keep it in play the whole time And only in very extreme ends of the range might you need to put your bottom foot down for the assist as you move into a 3/4 turtle, but never the top foot These are more recent developments as times change, but caio takes an active role in every gym within his association It's not like a gracie gym where you can be a blue belt that pays a franchise fee to use the name and then teaches classes out of your garage Doing it with him there's regular workshops to make sure you're doing things correctly If you aren't teaching things a certain way you aren't in the network, and this would be one of those sticking points I think it holds some water for him to effectively say \"I don't want your money, you aren't part of our organization if you shrimp with your feet on the floor\""
},
{
"poster": 193573,
"content": ">>193503 So you literally have to be underage or a college drone just to have access to it?"
},
{
"poster": 193576,
"content": ">>193573 Wrestling is too taxing of a sport to do as a geezer Maybe not greco, but that's about it Once the knees and back and all that stuff goes its just not a viable sport anymore"
},
{
"poster": 193579,
"content": ">>193572 You just regurgitated the Lachlan video, which is specific to guard retention. It's in the fucking title of the video. Your argument was about how the movement is useless, because you're fixated on a specific application in which it's the wrong technique. You're ignoring all the other uses. If you like Lachlan, here's an example of him shrimping during a pin escape: https://youtu.be/gnAhAdE_A90?si=OKb -8fzEu6VnDxvQ&t=178 >rant about Caio Idk what that has to do with anything. But here's an example of Caio shrimping to adjust his submission. You're a moron. https://youtu.be/etixFZKgr6Q?si=0mP _UIlnTv57QvIu&t=55 Why are you being so contrarian? This is not a niche or meme move, it's a very common and simple thing that everyone does."
},
{
"poster": 193580,
"content": ">>193572 You're incapable of distinguishing between guard passing and pin escapes Your posting of that Lachlan Giles video proves it, this post proves it as well. What you're describing, switching hip position without your feet touching the floor, is advisable if you're trying to prevent your opponent from passing your guard. Importantly, in this situation there is minimal or no contact between your opponent and you. I implore you to try what you're describing against an opponent who already holds a heavy crossface, because it is mechanically impossible. This move relies on using your legs as a counterweight for your oblique muscles to work against, so unless your legs completely outweigh your opponent, you will not be able to move without planting your foot on the floor and pushing off it. Before you mention it, yes, you can push with your arms but a) you will likely not be able to generate sufficient force and b) you're gifting your opponent an easy target for a joint lock But, again, since you're so confident, do provide a video example of anyone performing the move you're describing"
},
{
"poster": 193585,
"content": ">>193551 Whenever you see \"world sumo champion\" or \"random country sumo champion\" you should take it with a grain of salt since they're just scrappy amateur wrestlers at best. The only professional sumo league is in Japan. Many pro sumo wrestlers placed/won the World championship when they were still amateurs and hadn't gone pro yet. It's just a different level comparing hobbyists with guys who've been training every day for their whole lives."
},
{
"poster": 193620,
"content": ">>193579 >>193580 I'm getting pretty burnt out on blue belts telling me I'm wrong around here when I'm very good at this"
},
{
"poster": 193644,
"content": ">>193475 if you want to look Nick rod Instructional it is pretty good for beginners to start"
},
{
"poster": 193648,
"content": ">>193620 >say something retarded about a fundamental movement >refer to a irrelevant Lachlan technique >regurgitate it again >rant about Caio for some reason >avoid the argument entirely when presented with examples btfo try your larp in the next thread maybe"
},
{
"poster": 193654,
"content": ">>193620 >can't refute a single word QED"
},
{
"poster": 193658,
"content": ">>193644 Thank you"
},
{
"poster": 193662,
"content": ">>193648 I bet you think closed guard is fundamental too Pathetic. You don't know anything >>193654 I refuted it all, you're just not listening You guys aren't gonna make it"
},
{
"poster": 193673,
"content": ">>193662 >I bet you think closed guard is fundamental too >Pathetic. You don't know anything Here are a couple of examples of closed guard wins at the highest level of competition. Can't wait to hear how you know better than these guys https://youtu.be/eDx38KaZaPc?si=Ifn 0PT4Ih2KqTT-8 https://youtu.be/kqDIb7HmEpY?si=W3c BInRzT_amqZM4&t=494 https://youtu.be/rFdHO7QhKTs?si=yfR E9u4lrwBUaVcF&t=632 https://youtu.be/b2W-8Opvvxo?si=y7K OV_PQVYl0FA7q&t=499 https://youtu.be/_lNVnbAhCeo?si=bUK fbsE6VmMBtO55&t=128 Took me like 5 minutes to find those examples btw. Got any other retarded takes? I love studying matches"
},
{
"poster": 193682,
"content": ">>193673 I can show people winning with spinning head kicks That doesn't make them fundamental In order to have any kind of formidable offense from the bottom you need an open guard, you can win at any level without ever closing your guard The open guard is the fundamental one not the closed one It'd be like teaching someone the Philly shell as their first boxing stance You're gonna go into your first jiujitsu class and professor (has no formal education beyond middle school in a 3rd world country) is going to show you your first movement, de srimp And then you'll spend time shrimping up and down the floor Then next he's going to introduce you to de clos gar and you'll spend a couple minutes swimming your arms in on a fully cooperating guy Ok now you have your cornerstones of jiuujissuu it's time to give you your first attack The armbar from guard Ok so now you open your guard, and pivot around the corner DONT shrimp because it'll put your hips in the wrong place Weird, Ok so here we are having just practiced these supposedly fundamental moves and the first thing you tell me to do when attacking is not to do them and do something else instead Doesn't sound super fundamental to me Again to compare it to boxing, it would be like you spend all this time practicing keep your hands up and your chin down, And then when it comes time to do your first punch the coach says OK raise your chin up high drop your hands and wind up your swing as hard as you can But boxing doesn't have this problem because it understands what techniques are fundamental and what is not"
},
{
"poster": 193687,
"content": ">>193682 It's nothing like a spinning head kick retard. What you're not understanding is that people win matches with closed guard at every belt level. That sounds pretty fundamental to me. >open guard is the fundamental one Why are fundamentals restricted to one position? >incoherent rambling about closed guard armbars and shrimps >incoherent boxing analogies Btfo, cope, seethe, dilate, etc."
},
{
"poster": 193689,
"content": ">>193687 >Why are fundamentals restricted to one position? open and closed guard are opposite conditions, they can't both be fundamental also I went and looked at all your links, none of them showed a closed guard finish"
},
{
"poster": 193691,
"content": ">>193689 >open and closed guard are opposite conditions, they can't both be fundamental Says who? The guy confused about shrimping? lol >>193689 >also I went and looked at all your links, none of them showed a closed guard finish I called them closed guard wins. 2 closed guard armbars, a closed guard back take, and 2 sweeps that led to top position and eventually RNC's. At pans (gi and no-gi), ADCC, and ADCC vet super fights. Let's hear how those didn't count."
},
{
"poster": 193696,
"content": ">>193691 >2 closed guard armbars, a closed guard back take what did he have to do to those guards to do those techniques?"
},
{
"poster": 193701,
"content": ">>193696 Unlocking your legs to do a technique from closed guard does not make it an open guard technique. There is an agreed upon definition of closed guard ____(insert sub or sweep), and many require unlocking your legs. People might have different details in the techniques, but they are still referred to as closed guard techniques because they occur from the closed guard. You're really reaching and trying to nitpick but still sound retarded lol Shrimping and closed guard are a bit too nuanced for you, any other positions you need help understanding? Happy to send more links."
},
{
"poster": 193702,
"content": ">>193696 Closed guard is essentially when their hip is in between your knees and you are facing each other. Unlocking your legs to adjust or do a technique does not turn it into open guard. Why are you arguing such stupid shit? Is this an autism thing?"
},
{
"poster": 193703,
"content": ">>193701 >they occur from the closed guard but that's the thing, they don't they occur from open guard, nothing about them necessitates ever closing your legs closed guard is a strictly defensive stalling position and that's why \"breaking the close guard\" is a dumb thing to spend much time on why? he needs to open his guard to do anything to me, I'm just as safe as he is as long as his legs are closed I'm not going to try and open your guard, I'm going to position myself for when you inevitably have to open your guard and I'll have everything I want, because you have to and I know this"
},
{
"poster": 193705,
"content": ">>193702 >Unlocking your legs to adjust or do a technique does not turn it into open guard that's exactly what it does positions are what they are, you cant say \"it's still a body triangle even though he opened his legs\" whether things are open or closed isn't a trivial thing in this, there's open circuit ashi and closed circuit ashi, theres open guard and closed guard you may transition between the two but there isn't any grey area on when you are in one or the other feet are locked, it's a closed guard. Not fundamental, literally never need to do it"
},
{
"poster": 193706,
"content": ">>193703 >that's the thing, they don't Another great argument where you make up your own definitions that go against the entire world >closed guard is a strictly defensive stalling position and that's why \"breaking the close guard\" is a dumb thing to spend much time on I hope you don't have students."
},
{
"poster": 193708,
"content": ">>193705 You're lost. So I guess every person who has ever taught a closed guard move is wrong, and the autistic guy on 4chan is right. Fascinating stuff"
},
{
"poster": 193710,
"content": ">>193703 >>193705 jfc please stop with your made up shit"
},
{
"poster": 193718,
"content": ">>193706 >>193708 >>193710 I'm growing tired of this conversation because it's clear you're just religious fanatics at this point, so I'll leave you with this thought experiment (feel free to try it for real too!) start on your back with someone in guard and your task is to sweep or submit, do not get passed first you will do it under the restriction that you may not unlock your feet at any time you will find your task impossible because save for a handful of shitty collar chokes (hopefully you're wearing a gi which is another non-fundamental thing but that's a different conversation) and a few low percentage meme wrist locks you have no ability to attack or create meaningful movement next you will do the same thing except under the restriciton that you may not at any time lock your feet. You will find that effectively 100% of your jiujitsu is available for you to use so which position is the fundemental one, the one that allows 100% of jiujitsu to take place or the one that allows <1% to take place if you could only teach one of those two guard configurations to someone, which one is more useful to know I didn't put a question mark at the end because it's not really a question there's your fundamental"
},
{
"poster": 193719,
"content": ">>193718 >religious fanatics Of? Countless successful black belt competitors? >may not unlock feet >may not at any time lock your feet You just created two random scenarios, and tried to show that the restricted movement scenario (pointless and unrealistic) is less optimal. No shit genius. No one plays closed guard effectively with locked legs the entire time for every move, that was my argument that you derailed again. >if you could only teach one of those two guard configurations to someone, which one is more useful to know A new, made up argument appears (\"if you could only teach one of those two\") What happened to shrimping? What happened to the definition of closed guard?"
},
{
"poster": 193723,
"content": ">>193719 well like I said I don't really want to beat a dead horse and I'm realizing its not my explanations that are the problem here if you think opening your closed guard doesn't make it an open guard I'm not sure we can meet on this disconnect because you're just ignoring observable reality same with shrimping, I already made my point here's another person making the same point about shrimping https://youtu.be/Coh_cE_nQH0?si=NlR E6B_9Q81-Mdl_&t=110"
},
{
"poster": 193729,
"content": ">>193723 heh, they even discuss closed guard in this video too at 12:00"
},
{
"poster": 195020,
"content": "Hey guys, I'm a BJJ blue belt looking to compete before I get my purple belt next year. I feel my ground game is pretty good both offensively and defensively. I've been catching brown belts and purple belts at other gyms at open mats and whatnot, but usually only if I'm able to get on top or effectively lure them into traps on the bottom. I'm looking to maximize my offense and I've concluded that I need to work on wrestling up and takedowns. Any good instructionals that'll help me with what I need?"
},
{
"poster": 195106,
"content": ">>195020 Takedowns are a pretty big topic, but you can likely find plenty of good stuff on YouTube and from asking wrestlers/coaches at your gym. Basic stance, posture, and grip fighting will take you pretty far. Just be mindful that there is a clock running, and if you spend that whole time bullshitting on the feet you might not have an opportunity to score or submit. This could be a huge problem if you’re down on points. For wrestling up, Nicky Ryan’s instructional and Craig Jones’s Power Bottom are pretty good. You will definitely need some good front headlock defense though. You should start rolling with points in mind. I notice that a lot of blue belts will casually give up position when rolling, which is a terrible habit if you plan on competing. Get on top, and stay on top. Do not let anyone get a free sweep on you. You should have a few sweep, submission, and passing options that you know well. Some sort of plan will make a huge difference."
},
{
"poster": 195109,
"content": ">>195020 I want to help but I don't have anything to tell you except I truly believe all the pritt and chris paines shit breaks the sport of jiujitsu in a way that makes it completely trivial to win against most people"
},
{
"poster": 195419,
"content": "This is what happens when Judo faces against pure BJJ but scooting faggotry Pottery I think she even ended it with a kimura I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5G z6GutqIg"
},
{
"poster": 196208,
"content": "Went to a free intro BJJ class. There were white belt regulars there in the class too. The class was extremely basic, just doing 2 moves in slow motion, which was good for me, but I can't imagine going there for months and attending a class like that. There was even a blue belt who showed up and basically just helped people because he obviously knew all this stuff already. Is this normal? Why would people attend a class to do things they have figured out months ago?"
},
{
"poster": 196221,
"content": ">>196208 Sometimes more experienced practitioners also attend these intro classes to work on their basics. Kinda like even experienced boxers still practice footwork. Well, that or they're using the white belts to warm up for the advanced class that follows after"
},
{
"poster": 196226,
"content": ">>196208 Unfortunately this is a common way bjj (and many other things) is taught Grey haired boomers showing something then you \"practice\" against a compliant partner to build \"muscle memory\" (doesn't exist) this is called the IP method and is really ineffective at building skills That's why you'll see \"advanced\" people still needing to pop in to beginners classes to tighten up supposed fundamentals since they don't really know it, they just copy it from memory and memories change over time so if they haven't done it for a while it's all out the window Consider how many math equations you learned in school and at the time you were able to pass the test at the end of the semester but now you would look at it and it's complete gibberish to you When my gym informed me we were switching over to 100% ecological I was so excited almost ordered milk out of my nipples. I've been bugging people for weeks about this stuff. Finally we can actually get some real training done but it had to be done by ousting the old man in charge and his decades out of date gym teacher training methods"
},
{
"poster": 196337,
"content": "My gf is highly competitive and interested in starting a combat sport, and wants to know which sport would she be at the least physical advantage in, being approx 100lbs (46kg) and 5'1\"? This is just for sport, not self defense. Not only in competition, but also taking into account the practical sparring considerations."
},
{
"poster": 196338,
"content": ">>196337 Least physical disadvantage* She wants her size to impede her as little as possible."
},
{
"poster": 196345,
"content": ">>196337 Jiujitsu is of course the most girl friendly because you do it on your back and girls actually participate in it in a higher than average percentage compared to other things. If possible I'd shop around for a location that has a solid group of girls because they always form a clique and it's less time she has to spend rolling around with men And people will say \"oh its fine there's nothing sexual about it\" but that's not true because even if most guys are on their best behavior there's always going to be the permavirgins that go a g-g-g-girl!! And see it as an opportunity to actually touch one"
},
{
"poster": 196583,
"content": "BJJ fags Watch the next couple mins of vid and then tell me why your ground game (bjj) is better than mine (judo) You guys move like snails compared to us https://youtu.be/E30VnvoFYs8?si=k9z 89dW8oXdwLbA1&t=377"
}
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{
"poster": 187961,
"content": "Did Dagestanis debunk striking?"
},
{
"poster": 187963,
"content": "No, they are threatening on the feet too which is what allows them to set up the cage wrestling Khabib was going toe to toe with Connor on the feet for example And a lot of it comes down to strategy, they have a good wrestling style for MMA that utilizes the walls to great effect Would they be as effective in a different type of ring or mat? Maybe, I don't know for sure though"
},
{
"poster": 187990,
"content": ">>187961 No. Islam got KO'd before and Ankalaev had his legs turned into minced meat when he fought Jan Blachowicz. Dagestanis have a great style but it's not foolproof"
},
{
"poster": 187995,
"content": ">>187961 Are these the famous neckbeards i read about here?"
},
{
"poster": 188049,
"content": ">>187963 >Khabib was going toe to toe with Connor on the feet for example I think it debunked advanced striking. I believe Conor practiced striking more than Khabib and he looks like a better striker on paper but a haymaker to his face hurts him just like it hurts a mere mortal. Same with Adesanya vs Strickland. Izzy was a kickboxing champion and lost to a guy who ordinarily punched his face and kicked his belly. On the other hand, Jones' advanced striking always worked, even against Gustafsson who was a good boxer."
},
{
"poster": 188111,
"content": ">>188049 I don't think it really debunked anything. I think fighting has a rock-paper-scissors-ish aspect to it, where some people can give you a lot of trouble because they're simply a bad matchup for you. The power scaling isn't linear, to put it one way The Dagestanis are dangerous because they're all well-rounded and dangerous both as strikers and as wrestlers, meaning they can give the \"bad matchup\" to anyone"
},
{
"poster": 188408,
"content": ">>187961 Most dagestanis fighters are \"bred aristocracy\" for wrestling style fighting, they are born and raised in an environment where you wrestle your whole youth with an effective military combat system while being in a high altitude environment the whole time. That being said, that is the perfect match for strikers that are weaker at wrestling, prime example is khabib vs connor, they just wear them out and close the distance while not engaging fully to avoid getting ko'd. That being said, a competent matchup like khabib vs gsp would result in GSP smoking khabib Also account that most of those dagestanis with good winrates were usually paired up against strikers that get shat on when brought down"
},
{
"poster": 193283,
"content": ">>187961 Not at all. They are on average, very hard men, their skill floor is higher than the average man from pretty much any other country. But their skill ceiling is the same, they aren't superhuman. Khabib and Islam are great because they are exceptionally gifted. Who else is as dominant as them, no one. The more the Caucasians fight, the more we see they're more or less on level with fighters from anywhere else."
},
{
"poster": 193299,
"content": ">>187961 If anything, they debunked BJJ. There was a time when BJJ was king in the cage but with the Dagestanis it's become clear that fence wrestling and folkstyle leg and wrist rides are far more effective. The smothering, hold-down style is really demoralizing and exhausting for anyone to contend with. High level fighters can't just rely on knowing some good submissions anymore."
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{
"poster": 188108,
"content": ">Counters brazilian jj"
},
{
"poster": 188286,
"content": ">>188108 Interesting grab there"
},
{
"poster": 189030,
"content": ">>188286 He's black, he was gonna kiss him."
},
{
"poster": 189076,
"content": ">>188108 I love when weirdo cuck fetish gets posted here."
},
{
"poster": 189217,
"content": ">>188108 Timmybros how do we counter this?"
},
{
"poster": 189236,
"content": ">>189217 Shrimp into half guard, then back take from deep half."
},
{
"poster": 189245,
"content": ">>188108 OP if you actually knew anything about grappling you’d recognize that black guy’s position is insanely unstable, literally all he has is the knee and that ‘choke’ that becomes useless the moment the guy lowers his chin half an inch, that’s it, anyone with a week of BJJ training (or anybody who knows how to bridge and/or shrimp) could get out of this in ten seconds. The only thing black guy has going for him is the shock factor of being a half naked black guy pressing himself onto a white dude."
},
{
"poster": 189250,
"content": ">>189247 This little nerd would get ground and pound by anyone over 80kg"
},
{
"poster": 189258,
"content": ">>189217 This guy was literally asking for a triangle"
},
{
"poster": 189287,
"content": "Why is this board so obsessed with \"disproving\" BJJ? You'll see it randomly get attacked, often by someone who obviously doesn't train at all much less understand basic grappling"
},
{
"poster": 189290,
"content": ">>189287 Same reason why /pol/ likes Hitler and Putin. 4channers like to be controversial."
},
{
"poster": 189291,
"content": ">>189287 Autism. That’s why. >>189290 Also this. I remember on /asp/ when everyone loved bjj and thought karate and king fu were for cum swallowing faggots. The real truth is that nothing beats a well placed pipe bomb"
},
{
"poster": 189295,
"content": ">>189291 You are right. I just feel that a pipebomb is a rather drastic measure for every day life. So you know, you do you and whatnot and so forth."
},
{
"poster": 189309,
"content": ">>189287 >>189290 fair but I just like leglocks and double wristlocks"
},
{
"poster": 189341,
"content": ">>189287 In all fairness I think most of it is coming from the same 1~2 posters."
},
{
"poster": 189343,
"content": ">>189341 There’s at least one schizo who obsessively insists that one video of a BJJ black belt beating a bodybuilder is actually bullshit. I there’s a good chance that just me saying this will summon him to say that lance didn’t actually tap."
},
{
"poster": 189372,
"content": ">>189287 Weirdo subgroups from Discord and Reddit who want to propagate their own MA while shitting on the other. Im not joking"
},
{
"poster": 189384,
"content": ">>189372 What kind of no-life loser do you have to be to organize Raids on the slowest board on 4chan?"
},
{
"poster": 189453,
"content": ">>189384 I only met one of those guys on accident. He made some boxing threads here will shitting on everything else. Whole thing was perplexing to witness"
},
{
"poster": 189456,
"content": ">>189341 yeah lmfao. all these threads sound like they were made by the same person: >>184518 >>179123 >>178177 >>189184"
},
{
"poster": 189561,
"content": ">>189245 Faggot nerd. Let's see how you fight against an angry nigga. You'll shit yourself, beg for mercy and start sucking his dick to show your Blowjob-jutsu prowess."
},
{
"poster": 189572,
"content": ">>189561 >see a street fight video and discussion thereof >immediately start talking about sucking black cock If you’re so insistent on talking about your race play fetish at least go to /pol/ to do it"
},
{
"poster": 189631,
"content": ">>189217 With crime statistics"
},
{
"poster": 191510,
"content": ">>189291 >>189295"
},
{
"poster": 193288,
"content": ">>189453 Was it the dude who kept making the \"catch and shoot is the best style of boxing\" posts? Every post reeked of somebody who had only started training 3 months ago and had just learned how to parry."
},
{
"poster": 193504,
"content": ">>189572 you mean /gif/ but yeah"
},
{
"poster": 193598,
"content": ">>189384 The kind who's still seething about the result of UFC1 30 years ago, I guess"
},
{
"poster": 193600,
"content": ">>193504 you mean /gif/* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrk 8sqZfsgI"
},
{
"poster": 193653,
"content": ">>189291 >nothing beats a well placed pipe bomb How about two well paced pipe bombs?"
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 188222,
"content": "what does this mean here"
},
{
"poster": 188223,
"content": "It's mean no-gi Judo is the best martial art."
},
{
"poster": 188224,
"content": ">>188223 I'm gonna pay more attention to satoshi ishii"
},
{
"poster": 188227,
"content": ">>188222 It's a garbage chart. They had Machida listed as a BJJ guy when he literally came from karate competitions and walked to the cage in a street fighter gi."
},
{
"poster": 188230,
"content": ">>188227 guess we're going to ignore GSP as well too"
},
{
"poster": 188239,
"content": "It means the American fighters did wrestling as a school sports activity"
},
{
"poster": 188273,
"content": ">>188222 That being good at holding someone on the ground is very useful for scoring TKOs"
},
{
"poster": 188457,
"content": ">>188222 You see these people in sport karate, they don't give a shit about being \"real fighters\", from kids to theirs 60 years old instructors, there is even a japanese guy that lost all of his teeth because he don't knows that mouthpieces exists, nobody of them cares about the UFC, they just want to have fun."
},
{
"poster": 188458,
"content": ">>188457 >lost all teeth in karate How did he do it?"
},
{
"poster": 188462,
"content": ">>188458 they just don't really have good dental care in japan, lots of soft foods and smoking"
},
{
"poster": 188463,
"content": ">>188458 It's a point-based fight but without gloves and sometimes they kinda go full-contact (just the japanese black belts), their face punches can't be compared to the average punches of boxers but since they don't wear a mouthpiece they lost their teeth easily."
},
{
"poster": 188478,
"content": ">>188463 Karate punch adds in a lot of force from the speed and the straight line approach and pulling back the other shoulder, shooting from the hip giving it more reach and depth to the strike, one can easily knock out teeth if it lands square on the mouth with even little training."
},
{
"poster": 188505,
"content": "Boxing is the one least favored \"style\" by the ruleset, yet it's the most popular striking style of champions... Really makes you think. Maybe it's cause in a fight, regardless of context, something that matters even more than technical floritures is the wit of the fight and distance management."
},
{
"poster": 188507,
"content": ">>188505 Or like wrestling it's just by far the most accessible striking base in the US. And works well enough Anything with gloves is favoring strikers"
},
{
"poster": 190001,
"content": ">>188230 tbf gsp is more of a wrestler"
},
{
"poster": 190025,
"content": ">>188507 KOTS proves without gloves boxing is still king"
},
{
"poster": 190027,
"content": ">>188505 Nobody uses boxing in the UFC. They use punches."
},
{
"poster": 190028,
"content": ">>190027 The boxes would probably fall apart I bet"
},
{
"poster": 190029,
"content": ">>190001 He was a dan-holding Kyo black belt before he ever startes wrestle."
},
{
"poster": 190078,
"content": ">>190025 KOTS doesn't \"prove\" anything"
},
{
"poster": 192828,
"content": ">>188505 How do you mean boxing is unfavored when they use gloves and handwraps?"
},
{
"poster": 193186,
"content": ">>188222 >karate >no Bas Rutten >no GSP >no Lyoto >no Iceman Whoever made this chart hasn’t watched a fight before 2019."
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 188275,
"content": "How dangerous is head squish by a very strong man? Would it work in a real fight?"
},
{
"poster": 188278,
"content": ">>188275 YeH I done it and the person died I got 30 years in prison AMA"
},
{
"poster": 188283,
"content": ">>188275 >dangerous Yeah >in a real fight lol, maybe if you're playing with the KO'd body"
},
{
"poster": 188287,
"content": ">>188283 >lol, maybe if you're playing with the KO'd body What if someone is mostly immobile due to being on the bottom?"
},
{
"poster": 188288,
"content": ">>188275 If a man strong enough to crush your head like that gets his hands on your in a fight, he has many options that are much simpler than squeezing your skull until it pops. I'm sure it's possible, it just isn't very practical."
},
{
"poster": 192620,
"content": ">>188278 How are you so bad? Ass"
},
{
"poster": 192861,
"content": ">>188288 > I'm sure it's possible Why?"
},
{
"poster": 193146,
"content": ">>188275 surprising this womans man hands werent' the ones that did him in"
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 188633,
"content": "Is grappler's chance a thing?"
},
{
"poster": 193284,
"content": ">>188633 No, because it's rarer to see a grappler who has an X-factor like ability to finish the fighter with grappling, compared to a guy who has a puncher's chance meaning he is so capable of knocking you out in any exchange that you are basically never safe unless you avoid exchanging completely. When you get a guy like that, like Palhares maybe, it's not a sudden, random chance sort of thing, it's the guy being very good and very fucking strong, working his grappler diligently and finishing in ways that you can see coming before they happen, as compared to a big punch seemingly out of nowhere."
},
{
"poster": 193320,
"content": ">>188633 A lower chance, but yeah sure. The opponent would just have to make a pretty bad mistake for it to be considered chance and not skill."
},
{
"poster": 193407,
"content": ">>193320 >bad mistake It certainly is, but one you see fairly often is someone clearly winning a striking exchange just shoot out of nowhere and do fuck all with it."
},
{
"poster": 193556,
"content": ">>188633 Ironically Chael was probably the better grappler overall, it’s just that he had some massive holes in his game (IE he doesn’t know basic BJJ), hence why he wound up jobbing to a white-belt level triangle choke. If he’d just kept both his arms in guard he would’ve won the belt EZ PZ."
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 189184,
"content": ">Just Another proof Boxing(SUCKER PUNCH) is the best fighting technique"
},
{
"poster": 189188,
"content": ">>189184 Anyone who knows anything will tell you boxing is the most effective tool, the easiest thing you can learn to give you basic self defence skills, and the only thing that will let you ko multiple people if luck and skill is on your side Wrestling is the second line of defence though, if an attacker gets past your fists and grabs you. Bjj/submissions are the emergency when you are mounted and have run out of options/ need to restrain someone without hitting them"
},
{
"poster": 189191,
"content": ">>189188 >Anyone who knows anything will tell you boxing is the most effective tool I prefer kickboxing or muay thai >the easiest thing you can learn to give you basic self defence skills I'm not sure. Theoretically boxing is easier than wrestling/grappling but there's a higher chance that a random guy can guard up and punch you back than sprawl. >and the only thing that will let you ko multiple people if luck and skill is on your side I don't think relying on luck this much is a good idea. 800 meters run is probably the best art you can learn to protect yourself from multiple opponents."
},
{
"poster": 189196,
"content": ">>189191 kickboxing and muay thai is okay in the ring with shorts if you like to fight defensively, not so great on the street wearing jeans or in confined/ concrete spaces, when a 1-2 sucker punch would work best and be quicker in self defence. plus the time you spend learning kicks, elbows, clinch, knees, and hands, you will learn all those to a low level. train just hands for a year you will punch well. >I'm not sure. Theoretically boxing is easier than wrestling/grappling but there's a higher chance that a random guy can guard up and punch you back than sprawl. thats why you have power and size and knock them out first. if they can guard up they can probably outwrestle you and in multiple person situations youd be fucked anyway. or if you can wrestle you better pray you get that takedown otherwise youll just get knocked out/ kicked I don't think relying on luck this much is a good idea. 800 meters run is probably the best art you can learn to protect yourself from multiple opponents. yeah fighting even two capable people who want to hurt you if basically a death wish unless you get lucky like in OP and manage very swift surprise KO's"
},
{
"poster": 189232,
"content": ">>189191 Kickboxing / muay thai is at least marginally worse for self-defence because having to deal with knees and kicks from a skilled opponent means you train head movement and footwork less. If you get assaulted by some random dipshit on the street bobbing and weaving is one of the most effective things you can do to avoid damage. Especially the dutch style guard is reliant on the glove to protect the face. People who say you cannot kick yourself are wrong though. It can be risky but it is still effective saying you cannot kick on da streetz is obviously a myth."
},
{
"poster": 189233,
"content": ">>189184 >>189188 >>189191 >>189196 >>189232 You guys are fags. I do Judo and can kick your asses (all at once). Not going to argue with goobs."
},
{
"poster": 189235,
"content": "boxing is not effective at all, when you see those video of men with hands of stone its because the situation is lubricated with alcohol and the guys they hit are on the verge of falling over already as it it a stiff breeze will knock down someone that's drunk it isn't going to help if someone's trying to kill you"
},
{
"poster": 189242,
"content": ">>189233 >>189235 Cope by that logic grappling is 100% useless"
},
{
"poster": 189244,
"content": ">>189242 more useful than striking because grappling is part of close quarters weapon retention you are armed, arent you?"
},
{
"poster": 189251,
"content": ">>189244 Being armed won't stop you getting kod by a boxers sucker punch"
},
{
"poster": 189260,
"content": ">>189188 Right answer. If you train for self Defence learn striking and grappling, apart regularly and lift weights"
},
{
"poster": 189284,
"content": ">>189232 What if you kick someone before he's close enough to punch you? If someone tries to superman punch you or do some very aggressive greco roman, a teep to the solar plexus can end the fight before it begins. If he's a bit more refined, a teep can still be useful to keep the distance. A nak muay may not have as good footwork as a boxer but average person will have no footwork at all after getting low kicked by him once or twice. If you live in France, you can also think about savate. They fight in shoes because it was a self defence art at the beginning. Their knee kicks can be a scary weapon in a street fight."
},
{
"poster": 189312,
"content": ">>189251 >using the pipe bomb argument"
},
{
"poster": 189418,
"content": ">>189251 Why do boxing fags always have the most retarded arguments? Is it the brain damage?"
},
{
"poster": 189462,
"content": ">>189184"
},
{
"poster": 189466,
"content": ">>189184"
},
{
"poster": 189470,
"content": ">>189466 At least the other video you posted was decent, this is literally just a guy sucker punching someone who didn't even want to fight in the first place"
},
{
"poster": 189601,
"content": ">Sucker Punch good when we do it."
},
{
"poster": 189610,
"content": ">>189601 I don’t think anyone is going to dispute that punching a guy as hard as you can when he’s not expecting it isn’t effective it’s more “is it moral/legal to do so”"
},
{
"poster": 190070,
"content": ">>189184 that's not a sucker punch though"
},
{
"poster": 190085,
"content": ">>189184 There is not a single sucker punch in that webm."
},
{
"poster": 190241,
"content": ">>189184 all of those guys had knives if you pay attention btw"
},
{
"poster": 193280,
"content": ">>189184 Not a sucker bro, get it right. Dude was squared up with him, full eye contact."
},
{
"poster": 193309,
"content": ">>189466 This dude's a cunt. The other guys are deescalated as fuck, and he literally turns his back on them, and then proceeds to make a 180 turn just to elevate a regular sucker punch into a SUPER sucker punch. I mean, if he had simply punched them while he was yelling in their face, that would have been bad enough, but he turned his back just to make it even LESS telegraphed? What kind of sociopathic shit is that lmao"
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 189193,
"content": "Even taekwondo is better than sambo, catch wrestling, glima, sanda and lethwei If there's no gym that teaches a martial art anywhere near you, it's not a good martial art for you. There's much higher chance your town has karate, taekwondo, bjj, judo, aikido, boxing, kickboxing, muay thai, krav maga or even slightly obscure things like freestyle or Greco Roman wrestling, kung fu or Filipino martial arts than some local stuff nobody knows outside of the country of origin. A wimpy art you can train is better than a good art you can't train."
},
{
"poster": 190151,
"content": ">>189193 Usually correct. If you CAN train those niche sports it might still be worthwhile though. Even if you can't find people to compete with in your specific art if it's sufficiently similar to something else that's more popular you can use their competition formats. I know a Sanda place that outside of the few nation-wide tournaments they're able to put together have their students compete in amateur WAKO and MT events. But at the end of the day any sort of dick measuring between styles is gay. Train what you want and like best. If you love it that's what matters, nobody posting here is a professional fighter that absolutely need to minmax every single aspect of fighting. You're doing it for fun and anyone saying otherwise is a LARPing faggot."
},
{
"poster": 190152,
"content": ">>189193 >>190151 Jist do the good ol eye gouging"
},
{
"poster": 190154,
"content": ">>190152 >muh eye gouge Are you the same faggot in ever other thread talking about eye gouges? You fucking nerd, you’ve never “eye gouged” anyone lmfao"
},
{
"poster": 190163,
"content": ">>189193 >Majority of MMA champs with grappling backgrounds come from wrestling >https://www.flowrestling.org/artic les/6448229-wrestling-produces-the- most-ufc-champions-of-any-fighting- discipline >https://legendsmma.net/top-3-reaso ns-wrestlers-dominate-mma-will-cont inue/ >https://www.athlonoutdoors.com/art icle/boxing-wrestling-ufc-champions / Wrestling has produced almost double the amount of MMA champs than BJJ. OP is a retard. It all comes down to skill investment. Just as the complicated flowery styles of striking fell before the more reserved simplistic ones, grappling is no different. BJJ is a distant second compared to wrestling & only the simplest techniques from it are effective enough to even waste time on. So much of BJJ is niche garbage, it should come as no surprise when it's constantly being called \"cerebral\" and \"chess-like,\" in otherwords it's convoluted garbage."
},
{
"poster": 190164,
"content": ">>190163 I can watch almost any MMA match and see BJJ techniques. You see it less because everyone trains defenses to it, the gloves make subs way harder, and the round structure is inherently anti grappling"
},
{
"poster": 190196,
"content": ">>190163 Only reason wrestling and such is key to winning MMA is because they made every effective self-defense tool of the unarmed fighting styles against wrestling illegal for a good reason: They'll fuck your shit up for sure if pulled off."
},
{
"poster": 190199,
"content": ">>190196 Wrestling is probably the most discriminated style in mma. Around ufc 10 wrestlers were using headbutts extensively, now it's illegal."
},
{
"poster": 190213,
"content": ">>190164 >watch almost any MMA match and see BJJ techniques Yeah, the absolute simplest shit that children can recreate through basic mimicry. For any BJJ submission there is pretty much always an analog pathway to it via wrestling. >gloves make subs way harder Outing yourself as a larper dude. MMA gloves are open palm & there are ways to wrap hands that don't hinder grip at all. Anyone who uses this line 100% has never had their hands wrapped for MMA & has never used MMA gloves. This is total bullshit. >>190199 Not that headbutts have anything really to do with grappling or are unique to wrestling, but yes, there have been many changes since the beginning that have served to artificially make submission grappling safer. >>190196 >>190152 Theres a lot that would fuck up grappling, but that doesn't negate the need to have a grapple game. If you're gonna get into some hypothetical self-defense debate, let me cut you off, because wrestling would still be great for moments when grappling is appropriate. But in self defense situations, Judo might be king. No one is pulling guard on concrete or asphault so BJJ is totally useless at this point."
},
{
"poster": 190262,
"content": ">>190213 Larping. Remove gloves and you would see even more RNC. Any retard can tell it's harder to snake your hand around someone's chin with a glove on. Try it yourself. Fucking retard. You also ignored getting reset by rounds. A grappler can fight to a dominant position and sub for an entire round and then have it reset, completely bailing out the striker."
},
{
"poster": 190269,
"content": "Keep your doing your gay \"brazilian jizz juggling\"with your fellow plebs. I exclusively train in Wallachian toe-grappling. Elite martial art. Can't find it? Not my problem. Few."
},
{
"poster": 192845,
"content": "*slams u on the ground* *puts u to sleep* *snaps ur arm in half (twice)* heh, nothing personnell, bjj-bro..."
},
{
"poster": 192856,
"content": ">>189193 Senegalese wrestling is rarer than every martial art you mentioned, yet a Senegalese wrestler beat a BJJ hall-of-famer."
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 189248,
"content": "why is skiing culture like this?"
},
{
"poster": 189249,
"content": "Never know, we might."
},
{
"poster": 189257,
"content": ">>189248 Like how? Civilized?"
},
{
"poster": 189273,
"content": ">>189248 i mean it'd be kind of fucking difficult to take off with boards or skis from mid mountain. what gets me are the people who just leave their board down at the mall overnight. i often think about how easy it'd be to grab one, use it as a demo board for the night and then put it back without anyone ever knowing."
},
{
"poster": 189274,
"content": ">>189248 It’s almost like when you’re around where people crime doesn’t happen"
},
{
"poster": 189317,
"content": ">>189249 >>189282 Fucking kek"
},
{
"poster": 190133,
"content": "i dont think stolen ski equipment are that easy to sell. almost every pair of skis have unique combination of length/model year and bindings, making it relatively easy for the owner to recognise them if they pop on your area's craigslist equivalent. generic consumer electronics are much easier to take with you and find a buyer for than skis."
},
{
"poster": 190134,
"content": ">>190133 we actually had that happen here a few years ago where someone tried ripping off a bunch of stuff from ski shops and got caught instantly once they put it on ebay"
},
{
"poster": 190135,
"content": ">>190134 >>190133 I'd imagine a nonzero amount of thieves either rent their equipment or don't actually even use any, so details fall to the wayside."
},
{
"poster": 192523,
"content": ">>189248 black guy immediately thinks of stealing."
},
{
"poster": 192594,
"content": ">>189248 >nog's first out da hood experience"
},
{
"poster": 192641,
"content": "How long will this last?"
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 189715,
"content": "What do you think of Chael Sonnen?"
},
{
"poster": 189720,
"content": "Funny guy"
},
{
"poster": 189726,
"content": "8/10 fighter juiced. 10/10 mic natty."
},
{
"poster": 189727,
"content": ">>189715 >Majority of wins are decisions Garbage. Any fighter with majority of wins as decision is garbage. In an ideal world, decisions wouldn't be a thing, no finish by match end would be an automatic draw & schedule for rematch. Any prize gets split, incentive to finish."
},
{
"poster": 189958,
"content": ">>189715 he's pretty funny and makes a good youtube vid once in a while"
},
{
"poster": 190930,
"content": ">>189715 good showman, I miss the days when he was competing"
},
{
"poster": 190946,
"content": ">>189715 As a fighter: Decent As a person: Cringe but also Based"
},
{
"poster": 190951,
"content": ">>189715 Greatest to ever do it"
},
{
"poster": 192925,
"content": ">>189715 The reflection of perfection"
},
{
"poster": 192938,
"content": "ANDERSON SILVA, YOU ABSOLUTELY SUCK"
},
{
"poster": 192949,
"content": ">>189727 Decisions are bullshit. Should go into overtime"
},
{
"poster": 193014,
"content": "Tito tapped"
},
{
"poster": 193184,
"content": ">>189727 >>192949 If you spend 24 minutes sitting on top of a dude raining down punches with impunity, and don’t somehow find a way to get subbed in the last minute, then as far as I’m concerned you won."
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 189862,
"content": "~~Actually got the title fucking right edition~~ >Where do I start? People typically start in the gym and branch off outdoors and find their niche, be it bouldering, trad, sport or a mixture of the above. Some never leave the gym at all. Ultimately it doesn't matter - just get started and enjoy yourself. >How fit do I have to be to start? Do I have to be able to do x amount of pull-ups? Being light, strong and flexible helps at the higher levels but climbing is open to almost anyone and is fairly intuitive to most. Even if your body is feeble and weak now, you will develop strength over time by virtue of just climbing. Climbing is a holistic sport and success often hinges upon many factors, not just strength and power, but having these qualities definitely helps when you breach into the higher grades. >What shoes do I buy? If you're starting out in the gym, don't worry too much: get some snug shoes without dead space that don't cause you lasting pain. Some people (such as the famed shoe designer Heinz Mariacher) recommend wearing soft shoes when you're starting out -- this makes sense since your footwork will probably suck and the increased feedback will pay dividends over time. You really don't need fancy expensive shoes when you're starting out, but certain shoe properties help send harder problems (e.g. stiff shoes for standing on tiny granite edges or soft shoes for sandstone/gritstone smears). Here are some useful resources for sizing: >https://sizesquirrel.com/ >https://rockrun.com/blogs/the-flas h-rock-run-blog/rock-climbing-shoe- sizing-guide Old thread: >>184174"
},
{
"poster": 189899,
"content": ">other thread at page 5 kys op"
},
{
"poster": 189921,
"content": "Fucked up thing happened today. >shove jacket, shoes, socks, bag into one of the cubbies in the bouldering gym >do my thing for a few hours >go back to cubbie to get my shit before leaving >grab jacket, shoes, bag... wait >... >socks missing >SOCKS MISSING????? >look through cubbie, look in backpack, jacket, etc, everywhere >only socks are still missing >left the gym without my socks There's no fucking way someone accidentally took my socks. There is none. Someone willingly went through my cubbie and took them. I'm repulsed and afraid."
},
{
"poster": 189923,
"content": ">>189862 I went climbing for the first time today. I guess \"bouldering\" more properly. All of the rough spots on my hands from doing pull-ups/lifting peeled off. When will that get better? I had fun though."
},
{
"poster": 189933,
"content": ">>189923 You will get flappers until your body learns not to produce massive calluses. No idea how long it heals, since my grew back pretty quickly even as an oldfag, but you gotta keep them maintained. Glad you had fun though"
},
{
"poster": 189966,
"content": ">>189921 Then who was phone???"
},
{
"poster": 189998,
"content": ">>189921 Are you male or female?"
},
{
"poster": 190004,
"content": ">>189921 And the name of the socks: Albert Einstein! (did you wear them while climbing you animal?)"
},
{
"poster": 190010,
"content": ">>189933 The only thing that stopped me getting flappers on my palms and lowest pads was moving on to climbs that weren't all jugs."
},
{
"poster": 190019,
"content": "How do you hold this? Theres a route that's all this and I can't even start. Had people demonstrate, still couldn't. Like, I can hold standing still, the moment I try to move or remove an arm i'm dpwn. Maybe you got a secret tip. The route itself should be v3"
},
{
"poster": 190023,
"content": ">>190019 Better image"
},
{
"poster": 190030,
"content": ">>189923 if you're gonna be going climbing regularly, pick up one of those massage bars from lush and rub it on your hands when you get home. it'll feel so good and you'll heal 80% faster. stay moisturized. >>189921 it was me :3 >>190023 cup your hand around it, duh. if you can't, then work on other rounder holds and strengthen your forearms. it's all about leaning into it correctly and being strong enough."
},
{
"poster": 190037,
"content": ">>190010 you generally stop getting flappers when you get strong enough to not have to slap every hold and can just gently reach up to a jug and grab it carefully without pulling back on your skin flappers are the first noob filter but you pretty much stop getting them once you can flash every V3 in a gym"
},
{
"poster": 190069,
"content": ">>190019 Pull on it in a way that doesn't move your wrist."
},
{
"poster": 190080,
"content": ">>189862 It feels a bit lame and fake that climbing is done in indoors imitations of rock faces. I'm not saying go solo climb on a mountain but isn't nature climbing much more fun?"
},
{
"poster": 190107,
"content": ">>190080 You are obviously not a climber because a real climber wouldn't give a shit. Nobody conflates gym climbing with outdoor climbing, but they share similar techniques and you can get better at one by doing the other. Nature climbing IS more fun, but what about when it's winter and your crag is closed for 9 months? Do you just fuck off? Quit trying to gate-keep a sport you're not even a part of. Get the fuck out of /cg/ faggot."
},
{
"poster": 190111,
"content": ">Thanks for tuning in climbers, but before we begin... >SPONSORSHIP >Could not have been giving you this content without RUNGNE >Hey climbers hope you're enjoying the content but just wanted to give a shout out to [Insert overpriced brand clothing here] >Damn, did you see that crimp guys? Looked really uncomfortable, but not as uncomfortable as your clothes are during the winter, [SPONSORSHIP BRAND] can help out with that >So thankful that we got this first ascent together guys, btw [MAGNUS MITBØ SPONSORSHIP] wanted to present... Why is this sport's media so fucking inundated with sponsorships and capitalistic crap? For a sport full of hippies, there's so much fucking marketing going on they won't shut the fuck up about it. Imagine if weightlifting tried to shove shit up your ass every five minutes."
},
{
"poster": 190113,
"content": "saw a chalk bucket that looked almost like a bag, it was burgundy, almost like an old version of the mondo chalk bag but dark red anyone have any idea what kinda bag it was, haven't seen the dude with it since"
},
{
"poster": 190115,
"content": ">>190111 seethe tranny, ClimbingStuff is based"
},
{
"poster": 190116,
"content": "got some skwamas today if anyone has wide toe box, but tiny heel/ankle these shits built for you 45.5 sizing down to 43"
},
{
"poster": 190125,
"content": "Anyone tried to send hard but just gets burned out because your friends all climb significantly harder than you without even trying, and you know that despite the fact that you pour you're all into it, you can never close the gap? Yeah frens, I think I'm done with climbing. I was only in this to chase grades."
},
{
"poster": 190128,
"content": ">>190116 Yup, started using them after my Veloce died. Fantastic shoes, street shoes 42.5 and with (vegan) Skwamas I'm at 40 which is still a tiny bit too big."
},
{
"poster": 190178,
"content": "My evolv kronos got hella stretched lately. So I went to REI and got free Scarpa Quintecs. Was that the right choice?"
},
{
"poster": 190202,
"content": "i like chunky chalk i know i'm a sinner just bought 6oz of bam bam from friction and dropped a bar of frank endo in my chalk bucket too"
},
{
"poster": 190203,
"content": ">>190202 Nice"
},
{
"poster": 190204,
"content": ">>190125 I wonder how much of a problem retention is for climbing gyms seems like a lot of people plateau and then just decide to call it quits and do something else"
},
{
"poster": 190205,
"content": ">>190204 As someone who's started 2 months or something ago I can fully understand (same person as this >>190019 ) It fucking sucks once you start getting filtered by everything. I'm still early enough that most of the time the next day I go I finish a new route still but I can already see a bunch of stuff supposedly on my grade I can't even start on. Now it's the point where I'll see if I can tolerate this crap. At least my goal is more socialization based than actually becoming good at this but I can see something like 2 full sessions without a new route completed getting old real quick"
},
{
"poster": 190207,
"content": ">>189923 picrel >>190019 >>190023 fat pinch should work >>190080 efficiency and convenience, dumbass >>190115 that fag wants 4chan's approval so bad I wouldn't be surprised if he's (You) >>190125 >I was only in this to chase grades. do you really enjoy lifting ad nauseam in the gym as opposed to climbing for a workout? think about it. >>190204 this is why gyms with V10s that are actually V7s are brilliant, because they offer the illusion of linear grade progression that never slows down (obviously, grades are supposed to grow in exponential difficulty). it makes the setters and gym owners complete assholes but certainly boosts membership."
},
{
"poster": 190210,
"content": ">>190204 >>190205 Remember: grades are just a number. You could spend a year climbing V4s and improve two dozen different climbing skills (which is certainly something to aim for) and still lack the finger strength to send crimpy V5s, which is ok and just means you want to consider serious hangboard training if you want to do better on those sorts of routes. hopefully your gyms have a good balance of vertical, slight overhang, ~45 degree overhang and slab to train on."
},
{
"poster": 190227,
"content": ">felt a click/pop in my wrist tendon area today"
},
{
"poster": 190232,
"content": ">>190207 >do you really enjoy lifting ad nauseam in the gym as opposed to climbing for a workout? think about it. >Do you really enjoy getting jacked, buff, swole and having a cool physique in a low risk, injury free environment? Think about it >Would your really want to give up being dyel? Think about it. >Would you really want to forget about having a pulley injury and being unable to grip things for months? Think about it You can't be serious. >>190210 >Remember: grades are just a number. So is age. So is your salary. So is your bodycount. If you think that number means nothing, you're retarded."
},
{
"poster": 190233,
"content": "\"Your grade\" (however you interpret that) literally does mean nothing though. You go outside it's irrelevant because those grades are all over the place. You go to a different gym it's irrelevant because their setters are different. You climbing something not your style it's irrelevant because you're not at \"your grade\" on it anyway. You tell someone over the internet and they don't know what you mean at all because your gym is probably soft and you're probably lying anyway - it's irrelevant."
},
{
"poster": 190234,
"content": ">>190233 It literally does matter. Because no matter where I am, my friends are better. I climb V5 in one gym, my friends are climbing V8. I climb V8 in one gym, those same friends are climbing V11. The fact is, I suck. I suck donkey ass. I need to kill myself because nothing I ever do will matter. No amount of training will make any difference. I suck. Just let me suck. Stop trying to persuade me that my life has value when it doesnt. It says alot about you climbing harder than me. You don't know what it's like to plateau. You don't know what it's like to be left behind."
},
{
"poster": 190235,
"content": ">>190234 Grow up and fix your attitude."
},
{
"poster": 190236,
"content": ">>190235 Im trying man, Im trying, but shit's hard. Life sucks. How am I supposed to love myself if I climb such bitch grades. My friends are better than me despite climbing for the same amount of time. What can I do to catch up?"
},
{
"poster": 190237,
"content": ">>190227 Damn, my wrist is still weak/fucked more than a year after, some slopers hurt like a bitch... Hope you get better soon and don't suffer as long"
},
{
"poster": 190242,
"content": ">>190202 >average chunky chalk enjoyer It's just a superior feeling of crushing the chunks."
},
{
"poster": 190245,
"content": ">>190234 I won’t say any of those things because they’re true. You’re a little whing bitch and chances are even the fat granola lesbian punters will outclimb you in time. Now do yourself a fucking favour and get the fuck out of this thread."
},
{
"poster": 190246,
"content": ">>190234 easy fix - get weaker friends. not even joking. it is real nice to have someone stronger to hang out with, so they can motivate you to try harder grades and give you advice. and at other times it is great when you can take the leader role, go at easy mode and provide the same for others."
},
{
"poster": 190247,
"content": ">>190236 Unironically, pay attention to your feet or just cover your hands in liquid chalk to get that extra grip. Otherwise, climb 3 times a week."
},
{
"poster": 190252,
"content": ">>190111 This is marketed toward the loser who exclusively pulls plastic in a gym"
},
{
"poster": 190267,
"content": ">>190234 Bro, chill. You're probably like 20 or some shit. This is long term, you're gonna have periods of huge breakthroughs and growth, and some stagnation. But the stagnation is never really static, it's just when progress becomes harder to see. >>190245 >Granola Lesbian Punters kek. I'm saving that. >>190246 Unironically this. Learn to be a sensei for once. >>190252 I mean given the prices, that shit is marketed towards the rich white golf-fags who're too scared to climb outdoors but still want to tell their CEO friends that they do something cool on Saturdays."
},
{
"poster": 190326,
"content": ">>190234 >I need to kill myself Please do asap you absolute bitch"
},
{
"poster": 190331,
"content": ">>190232 >So is age. So is your salary. these things majorly affect your quality of life, whether you climb V5 or V9 shouldn't be affecting your quality of life unless you're a retarded faggot >reddit spacing checks out, kys retard >>>/pw/ >>>/lgbt/"
},
{
"poster": 190349,
"content": ">>190331 >reddit spacing full blown retardation"
},
{
"poster": 190367,
"content": ">>190331 >>190349 picrel"
},
{
"poster": 190386,
"content": ">>190242 thats what i like about it just crushing the chunks before i go on a climb is like meditation to me"
},
{
"poster": 190387,
"content": ">>190234 who cares what ur friends climb, just have fun and send i don't get ur issue who tf cares i'm climbed v5 after 6 weeks my friend climbing for 6 months at the time stuck on v3 and i helped him through it, got him to flash his first v4"
},
{
"poster": 190403,
"content": ">>190387 I made this."
},
{
"poster": 190433,
"content": ">>190349 >>190367 >newnigger pretends the definition is different because some screeching sperg on a porn board said so we all can tell you actually have autism so you can stop posting now. reread your post >>190234 and try really hard to understand how fucking retarded you are. if you don't see any problems you probably should just kill yourself"
},
{
"poster": 190445,
"content": ">>190433 Why are you so butthurt, newfriendo?"
},
{
"poster": 190470,
"content": "Climbing gym closed for a week due to comps. I bought a hangboard. Do I just hangboard three times this week?"
},
{
"poster": 190487,
"content": ">>190470 Why don't you find some people to go climbing outside with?"
},
{
"poster": 190501,
"content": ">>190487 I live in Iowa"
},
{
"poster": 190503,
"content": "got some recommendations for a second pair of climbing shoes?"
},
{
"poster": 190508,
"content": ">>190501 I live in Connecticut."
},
{
"poster": 190518,
"content": ">>190503 Skwama"
},
{
"poster": 190525,
"content": ">Middle finger aches after hangboarding >Take a light week >pain goes away after 5 days >start climbing super low volume >Maybe 3 boulders a session instead of 9. >another week passes >Decide to warm up with hangboarding >Barely load my hands >Pinky hurts for the duration of the session why is the body like this. It's still acheing. I barely fucking loaded it, my feet were still on the fucking ground. Seconds later, I bodyweight hung off a large edge. No pain. Come off. Aches mildly. Why the fuck do fingers do this shit. How am I supposed to get better when this shit keeps happening?"
},
{
"poster": 190529,
"content": ">>190503 Ke don’t listen to this fag >>190518"
},
{
"poster": 190532,
"content": ">>190525 By not being such a bitch about it I guess."
},
{
"poster": 190534,
"content": ">>190503 whatever fits your foot the best will always be the best shoe, consider trying some aggressive ones or a shoe with a different stiffness to the first one you had also >>190529 theres nothing wrong with the skwama?"
},
{
"poster": 190537,
"content": ">>190207 the blue (foot) variant is also good for hands/feet. just has less moisturizer/paraffin"
},
{
"poster": 190541,
"content": ">>190111 then skip it? faggot. Get over yourself How else are they gonna get paid. Ad revenue will never pay the bills in this sport (for most)"
},
{
"poster": 190581,
"content": "Good session today after being away for a couple of weeks, cruised up a few 6as including one that my friend (who is a much better climber than me) struggled with a fair bit I mean I should be able to flash 6a in general, have done a few 6b and a 6b+ before, but it was the fact that I basically flew up them and didn't get pumped at all Have been trying to train myself to grip softly and trust in my open grip instead of overgripping everything, think it's working Although there was three of us this session so I had longer breaks than I would usually get when it's just me and my usual partner, probably helped Still, really happy"
},
{
"poster": 190595,
"content": "Anybody else go to their local reel rock screening"
},
{
"poster": 190598,
"content": ">>190529 Are you the anti-Sportiva/Scarpa fag?"
},
{
"poster": 190645,
"content": ">>190595 yeah I went twice and my two local hosts did not have that cup."
},
{
"poster": 190656,
"content": ">>190125 >>190205 Board climbing, outdoor climbing, hangboarding, campusing Lifting is allowed but not mandatory and comes second Anything else climbing related is to be done for fun/resting Being heavy is subpar but ok, being fat isn't"
},
{
"poster": 190660,
"content": ">>190387 >i'm climbed v5 after 6 weeks indoor grades moment >>190525 Different grip types yields different forms of stress Which is also why some ppl can handle 160% bw for 10 seconds on half crimp 18mm edge but can't hang bodyweight on 3finger drag 18mm edge >>190581 If your max is 6b+ you should not be onsighting the majority of 6a-s you get on Either your max is not 6b+ or you're talking about indoor climbing in which onsighting/flashing is a meme"
},
{
"poster": 190668,
"content": "been climbing hard for a year and I'm getting really tired of finger training. if it was even just half as slow as getting stronger muscles I'd be ok with it, but the gains are much much slower. >b-but I saw some guy on youtube improve rapidly in just a month those faggots had no experience with actually crimping small edges for any amount of time and were able to get comfortable with the sensation in a month--their grip strength didn't actually improve doing nohangs. Looks like I've lost interest in improving from outdoor V6 / a few V7s bros... sad but could've been worse"
},
{
"poster": 190707,
"content": ">>190656 Is doing kilterboard twice a week a good idea? Monday, climb regular shit Wednesday, then climb Friday?"
},
{
"poster": 190727,
"content": ">>190707 I don't know you so I don't know You have pros doing 2 sessions a day 35h a week and you have Jan Hojer doing 3 2h sessions a week If you think you can, try it. Just be smart about your warmup/rest/recovery/rate of exhaustion/state of your fingers etc..."
},
{
"poster": 190729,
"content": "Any climbers taking supps like creatine? solo research says it's good for body and mind but the retards in /fit/ are currently split"
},
{
"poster": 190745,
"content": ">>190729 creatine is absolutely worth taking for climbers since it pretty much just gives you more gas in the tank for max efforts. It's a little bit more questionable for endurance athletes to take it since it makes being fully hydrated a lot harder and you're more prone to cramping when slightly dehydrated. Ignore any fearmongering about balding, I've been taking it on and off for ten years and have a full head of hair (but some early graying) which is just genetics. The water weight you gain from creatine is only like 3-5 lbs which isn't THAT big a deal for climbing especially since you'll be stronger relative to that weight."
},
{
"poster": 190750,
"content": "Lads ..."
},
{
"poster": 190760,
"content": "Injured my hand on rock last week, ever since that , even though it's healing well I'm not feeling the same energy / confidence I had, I don't want to meet my climbing friends or climb at all, feels like I'm just going through the motions. I've tried to use this time to do other types of training which went fairly well, but I feel very disillusioned and disappointed. Sorry guys I had to get this off my chest. Maybe this is where climbing progress ends for me"
},
{
"poster": 190761,
"content": ">>190760 I felt the same when I injured my finger. I couldn't push as hard as I'd like to so I felt like shit. But still trained and climbed and when it finally healed and I could go hard again I was a completely different climber. Felt so good to be back and even better than before. Don't worry anon, it will be good again once it heals and you know you can push yourself again."
},
{
"poster": 190763,
"content": ">>190761 I really hope so, thanks for the kind words. Climbing is the second most important thing to me besides my work, so i felt really hurt by this setback - it felt as if all my training/efforts went to waste. Glad to hear it turned out well for you!!!"
},
{
"poster": 190781,
"content": ">>190750 She lets the ugliest whiny loser hit it. Kek"
},
{
"poster": 190837,
"content": ">>190781 it should be me"
},
{
"poster": 190840,
"content": "should I even bother on a kilterboard/moonboard if I'm new? Not sure what to focus on"
},
{
"poster": 190851,
"content": ">>190781 he's an inspiration to us manlets, don't you dare disrespect my king I'd shove my nose in his taint just for a chance to smell Miho"
},
{
"poster": 190859,
"content": ">>190840 No. Get better fingers first by climbing normal shit. It's easy to injure yourself on moonboard."
},
{
"poster": 190861,
"content": ">>190859 >Is it better to walk 10 miles or drive to work each day? >No, it's better to walk to work, bike crashes can be fatal >Should I shop for my own groceries, or use uber delivery? >Don't go outside, you might risk getting robbed. Always use app delivery services >Is it better to train with 1lb dumbbels or a 45lb barbell >1lb dumbbell, the 45lb dumbbell could break your spine. 1lb with 10 reps should be plenty Classic fearmongering in the right climbing community >rreeeee, b-b-but... you might get injured *Gasp* No you won't. Just don't be stupid and moonboard every single fucking day. Quit telling climbers not to do shit that will help them you fat fuck."
},
{
"poster": 190872,
"content": ">>190861 As far as I've done research on this fingerboarding moonboarding topic, the general consensus seems to be: If you're already climbing a lot(4-5+ days /per week): Go for fingerboard/moonboard If not, climb more. But I'm not super experienced"
},
{
"poster": 190894,
"content": ">>190861 >just don't be stupid Almost every new climber is stupid in terms of training and they don't know when they're about to get injured."
},
{
"poster": 190905,
"content": "What's the difference between a moonboard and the 40 degree part of the wall at the gym?"
},
{
"poster": 190907,
"content": ">>190111 your fault for watching shit where you see this literally never see anything like this, but i don't watch magnus so maybe it's all there"
},
{
"poster": 190919,
"content": ">>190872 Ironically that's what's probably going to get someone injured, having 4-5 days of climbing with little to no rest in-between then adding moon boarding on top of that? Whatever. People can do what they want, everybody's different, and in a sport like climbing it's hard to generalize. There's only one universal in this sea of variables- 1) - Listen to your body. Does it hurt really badly to crimp something? Maybe don't do that. Does it hurt a little but goes away after a warm up? Prolly fine, but be careful. 2) - Have rest days. No beginner (less than 5 years of climbing experience) is going to benefit by climbing 5-6 days a week without any rest. That's it. Everything else is bullshit. We're ALL going to fucking make it."
},
{
"poster": 190934,
"content": ">>190919 Make what? Why do you have to be so cringy about it? This is not /fit/, and consequently you’re not talking to third world incels desperate to better themselves in order to get laid."
},
{
"poster": 190943,
"content": ">>190934 >Make what? Why do you have to be so cringy about it? Why do you let it bother you? You're exactly the 4chan archetypal shizo who pretends that what I've said is a slight. We're on 4chan. Most people on the website are incels or people looking to improve. Therefore, it's targeted towards you."
},
{
"poster": 190949,
"content": ">>190943 I didn’t take it as a slight, I just don’t want to read annoying, irrelevant shit like that. You like to complain about reddit in these threads, yet you yourself act like you came from there with your attempts to fraternize with anons over this shit as if it were some existential struggle."
},
{
"poster": 190953,
"content": ">>190745 cool, ordered some of it to try out. I'm pretty short so I'm mindful of every lb difference but I think I'll be okay."
},
{
"poster": 190965,
"content": "bros my local crag is finally dry,"
},
{
"poster": 190966,
"content": ">>190949 Oh no, you accidentally read something you didn't like. I should respect your feelings and monitor what I say to make sure it doesn't mildly annoy anyone... wait a minute... which one of us did you say sounds like they come from reddit? >>190953 You're gonna notice a difference after a week or two. There's a slight possibility you won't notice any at all, so my recommendation is to load it. Take 5g, 4x a day for one week, then take 5g a day after. This \"loading phase\" helps it accumulate in your body and saturate your muscles, so you can notice a difference right away, rather than wait 2-3 weeks. When taking creatine, never take it by itself, never take it with water (always use milk or some other drink with lots of calories), and you should be fine. I always microwave milk then put creatine in it so it dissolves better. Never had stomach problems after doing this."
},
{
"poster": 190978,
"content": ">>190905 you'll have unique holds on the gym wall, duh >>190965 sweet! >>190953 >>190966 >creameme enjoy looking like shit in your mid 30s onward"
},
{
"poster": 190980,
"content": ">>190978 Enjoy not benefitting from something already in your fucking body just because you fell for the baldness memes."
},
{
"poster": 190985,
"content": ">>190980 >Enjoy not benefitting from something already in your fucking body supplementfags are peak retardation. the vast majority of elite athletes and military personnel don't take creameme because after a year or two of serious exertion it's no longer increasing your maximum capabilities and you have to continue taking it daily, forever, or else you'll lose a shocking amount of muscle mass. like all workout supplements, it's just a get-rich-quick delusion"
},
{
"poster": 190986,
"content": ">>190985 you clearly have no fucking clue what creatine is or how it works, and if you think fags in the military aren't on shit much worse than this, then you're a onions-cuck with undiagnosed 'tism. >the vast majority of elite athletes and military personnel don't take creameme You mean the same athletes pumping themselves with hormones and shit for a 1% performance boost? Those same athletes that openly admit to taking creatine? Would it boggle your tiny mind to learn that athletes also take fuck tons of caffeine too? Is caffeine an acceptable \"supplement\"? You really don't know how the world works >after a year or two of serious exertion it's no longer increasing your maximum capabilities It's statements like this and >ou have to continue taking it daily, forever, or else you'll lose a shocking amount of muscle mass. that show you have no idea what the fuck it is. Creatine already exists in your muscles you retard, it helps replenish ATP in your muscles before they fully startup the anaerobic energy system (glycolysis). It's essentially giving you a slight boost in power and force production while doing high intensity work, allowing you to train harder, climb harder, and get stronger as a result. Any increase in muscle mass has to do with how it makes your muscles take in more water because it exerts osmotic pressure (something your dumbass never learned in biology). Creatine is literally in every muscle cell in your body ALREADY. Only difference is it's probably not at capacity. The average person usually has about 50-60% of their creatine stores full at any time. All supplementation does is get that to 100% and makes it stay there. Creatine is naturally found in meat products, especially red meat, so theoretically you could get your creatine exclusively from diet, but for most people it's not feasible since you'd have to pay exorbitant prices to ensure you're getting enough red meat into your diet."
},
{
"poster": 191019,
"content": ">>190986 holy lul"
},
{
"poster": 191027,
"content": ">>190966 Can't imagine taking creatine in warm milk. I just take a teaspoon dry and wash it down with a glass of water."
},
{
"poster": 191031,
"content": ">>190966 I don't bother with the loading phase since taking too much in a day can fuck up my gut just take 5g max per day and you'll notice it working within a week also IIRC it's absorbed best in the presence of sugar so just mix it into juice or gatorade or something, idk why you'd use milk but I guess it's fine in a shake if that's what you want to drink, it probably doesn't make that big of a difference"
},
{
"poster": 191032,
"content": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dp gJi_q4rI >gym climbing : (annoyed basedjak) >gym climbing (ft. Toby Segar) : :O"
},
{
"poster": 191054,
"content": ">>191032 nice vid"
},
{
"poster": 191067,
"content": ">based Natalia hating on dyno shit and parkour bouldering luv her"
},
{
"poster": 191083,
"content": ">>191032 >hannah morris slop Not gunna watch some loser terminally stuck on a v5 after 12 years of climbing consistently"
},
{
"poster": 191085,
"content": ">>191032 weird, love storror and would think I would enjoy any combination of Toby and climbing, but Hannah really makes the worst climbing videos of anyone with that size of channel. so many minutes of effectively nothing in that vid. what happened to the standard 10 minute video? would make that on watchable."
},
{
"poster": 191110,
"content": ">>191067 where?"
},
{
"poster": 191111,
"content": "Fuck it, might just do para climbing comps since I can become an olympian much easier. Every para climber I have seen has both feet and hands."
},
{
"poster": 191129,
"content": ">>191110 https://youtu.be/teqTq5h27IM?si=mR3 b3xWMku1m-sBn&t=326"
},
{
"poster": 191146,
"content": ">>191067 >>191129 Man, I wish they’d get Pete to set up a proper crack boulder for the Olympics."
},
{
"poster": 191158,
"content": ">>191083 >12 years I knew she'd been climbing a while but that can't be true, genuinely unfathomable"
},
{
"poster": 191161,
"content": ">>191158 She talks about it in one of the videos she made for all the fat women and skinny women who started climbing because it is a fad and encourages them not to get discouraged at getting stuck at a V2. I am just glad climbingcirclejerk and climbharder have pretty much bullied any hanna morris fans from posting her content there"
},
{
"poster": 191164,
"content": ">>191161 >Unironically admits to browsing two subreddits"
},
{
"poster": 191165,
"content": ">>191083 >types \"gunna\" because he lacks the self-awareness to realize how retarded he sounds Hannah climbs V7, so 5 grades harder than anything you've sent. >100k+ subs She's literally popular, and you're just some fuckwit. Nobody asked for you to share your mental retardation."
},
{
"poster": 191166,
"content": ">>191165 >t."
},
{
"poster": 191169,
"content": ">12 years of climbing >allegedly can do only a V7 Mentally weak KWAB"
},
{
"poster": 191171,
"content": "This thread is so confusing. I can't tell if half of these comments are jerking or not. Hannah Morris bouldering is a great youtube channel that services an audience that is very different from the stereotypical gym bros so I really hope a lot of these negative comments are in jest."
},
{
"poster": 191172,
"content": "I refuse to watch any climbing content by people who climb less than V10. No exceptions."
},
{
"poster": 191178,
"content": "I refuse to watch any climbing content by anyone who climbs less than V13. And they have to lead 5.14B, too. And they have to be setters. And competitive medalists in bouldering, lead, and speed. Actually I don't watch anyone. All of them are imperfect, disgusting creatures. I only go to the crag with a pair of horse blinders on and a spotter who calls out other climbers that I may avert my eyes. I run adblock on my shit to avoid accidentally seeing other climbers, that their insignificant technique may imprint on me, permanently ruining my career. I only leave the house to climb and harvest collagen peptides."
},
{
"poster": 191181,
"content": ">>191169 she did the V7 like 8 years ago she can only go up to V5 now"
},
{
"poster": 191190,
"content": "When I first started climbing I would watch every climbing channel but I've realised they're all cringe and now I just watch Wedge Climbing because Jim Pope is cute."
},
{
"poster": 191209,
"content": ">>191181 Who gives a shit? She obviously doesn't try to improve that much, otherwise she wouldn't have such a decline. Why does it matter? Does it change the quality of her content?"
},
{
"poster": 191210,
"content": ">>191146 Would love to see it"
},
{
"poster": 191212,
"content": ">>191165 >Hannah climbs V7 lol, lmao >>191171 we need this pasta in the OP of every thread"
},
{
"poster": 191213,
"content": ">Natalia Grossman I'm in love. Literal goddess"
},
{
"poster": 191219,
"content": ">>191171 Updoot >>191213 She's mine!!"
},
{
"poster": 191226,
"content": "Brooke Raboutou is the thinking mans choice and that is not up for debate"
},
{
"poster": 191228,
"content": ">>191164 What’s wrong with that?"
},
{
"poster": 191237,
"content": ">>191164 Climbharder, despite being on plebbit, has a ridiculous amount of autists who will write you an entire exercise regimen to get stronger for climbing. One of the few places that grounds itself in the idea that in order to climb harder grades, you can’t be a dyel techie"
},
{
"poster": 191244,
"content": ">>191226 >the smile of a climber living in the shadow of her peers"
},
{
"poster": 191254,
"content": ">>191237 Unironically? Shit. I need to check it out then. i've only ever heard redditors say >Want to climb? Just climb brah I've only been on climbharder once, and it was just a bunch of fearmongering twats telling someone not to hangboard. Maybe it's gotten better in recent years. Do you have an example thread of someone as autistic as me writing advice for other climbers?"
},
{
"poster": 191272,
"content": "What's a good way to counter a barn door when flagging isn't an option? I have my right foot on a chip, right hand on a side pull and my left hand is coming far up above my head for a gaston pinch. My left shoulder is a bit fucky so maybe I just can't hold the position, but in general I have a low success rate with high, shouldery moves. I think the key might be to simply be closer and have more of a bend at the elbow, but I'm keen to hear what you faglords have to say"
},
{
"poster": 191274,
"content": ">>191272 >I'm keen to hear what you faglords have to say being on a chip, how good is your edging? could be an issue of not getting a solid pinch with your opposite (left) hand quick enough, could be that you're putting too much momentum into the move, could be incorrect footwork for the route, etc. my friends all barndoor 5x as often as I do and I think them being really tall makes that more common. could be a balance issue, could be not getting their center of gravity low enough, etc. etc. etc."
},
{
"poster": 191286,
"content": ">>191272 Aim higher than you think for the left hand gaston move. Your shoulder is much stronger if your body is high relative to the hold versus down low. Pre flag your left foot out left, so that as you go for the move that leg falls towards your mid line with momentum. Depending on where the foot chip is, you could also try swapping feet but the further right the chip is the worse that will feel."
},
{
"poster": 191297,
"content": ">Be me >V5s are doable >Moonboard problem isn't >inb4 indoor climbing fag I want to do a moonboard problem. Any tips? Bw- 180, height- 6'2"
},
{
"poster": 191298,
"content": ">>190080 Outdoor climbing is a lot harder than indoor, so there is that, you gotta get good indoor first before you do outdoor."
},
{
"poster": 191301,
"content": ">>191297 sorry retard, your gym is extremely sandbagged. I was climbing V3 moonboard when I could climb V4 in my gym, the fact that you are failing just tells you you're not at the level you think you are. board climbing is an ever better metric of true climbing grades than outdoor (at least until V11+) due to the sheer number of unique sends >I want to do a moonboard problem hangboard train and get better technique."
},
{
"poster": 191304,
"content": ">>191301 >sandbagged you mean overgraded*"
},
{
"poster": 191305,
"content": ">>191301 >Your gym is sandbagged Don't you mean inflated? Also it doens't surprise me, most american gyms are. I was told hangboarding doesn't help with moon-board problems... Should I just fuck around on a moonboard until something clicks? Or should I hangboard for a month? >>191298 >outdoor climbing is harder I don't think that's necessarily true, it's just that outdoor climbing is its own style. The footholds suck, reading a route becomes alot harder, and you have to have more intuition for when to use technique. The grading can feel more sandbagged, but it's also more fair imo."
},
{
"poster": 191311,
"content": ">>191129 the guy who does that podcast looks insufferable, isn't he some c tier tv actor and extremely mediocre climber?"
},
{
"poster": 191318,
"content": ">>191305 >I was told hangboarding doesn't help with moon-board problems absolutely does, how do you expect to keep body tension on crimps if you're not very very comfortable on the crimps? look up vids of people doing easy moonboard problems and try to emulate. you'll be able to diagnose lots of problems right away"
},
{
"poster": 191331,
"content": ">>191318 Which type of hangboarding session is better: 1) - Climb regularly, then have a hangboarding session at the end. Won't be able to hangboard as hard, but will get lots of volume in 2) - Only climb enough to warm up (15-20 mins) then have a hard hangboarding session. Only hangboard that day"
},
{
"poster": 191337,
"content": ">>191331 Hangboard 1st and then do a climbing sessions working on technique."
},
{
"poster": 191339,
"content": ">>191331 how often are you climbing? you should be able to get 3 hard sessions in per week, any assortment of climbing or hangboarding. this is why you want, at a minimum, two wooden boards mounted at home, one ~18mm and one ~27mm. you can also nohang daily to see results quicker when you're first starting finger training."
},
{
"poster": 191340,
"content": "bros i lead my first outdoors 6b+ today, havent even done a 6a lead yet because theres none in my area kek, it was a near vertical slab and also somewhat in a style ive done before"
},
{
"poster": 191342,
"content": ">>191339 I climb three days a week, and I go hard on each day, albeit in a different style. I do overhangs on day 1, rest day, day 2 I focus on slopers/vertical stuff, rest day, day 3 I do all the crimpy stuff, then have two rest days before repeating. >Nohangs I just do nohangs off my doorframe at home. Since they're so submaximal, I don't see the need to get a hangboard since I can just load it on my roughly 25mm doorframe. When I did nohangs twice a day, I saw a huge boost in finger strength, but then I stopped hangboarding. I plan to combine both. What do you think of this schedule- Monday & Wednesday -climb hard Friday - Hangboard only session? >>191340 That's fucking sick!!!! Congrats dude, do you have photos?"
},
{
"poster": 191352,
"content": ">>191342 >so submaximal only 20-30% submaximal, but your door frame likely still works. your schedule plan sounds fine, just be aware that a serious hangboarding session will put even more strain on your fingers than a full session of crimpy climbing (so if you start feeling lasting pain in your pulleys or other issues, take a week off and then cut back). but, definitely try it out for a month; when I first started harder hangboard routines I was having lots of fun with them. another thing--your hangboard session shouldn't last you longer than 20-30 minutes. for this reason you'll want to finish out your session with dedicated footwork exercises on easy climbs, or something else that won't require much finger strength (cardio is good too)"
},
{
"poster": 191394,
"content": ">>191352 Duly noted. I'm an incredibly apprehensive climber, so when I feel a tweak I put on the yellow light. So far, nothing's ever hurt, worst I've had are slight tweaks that are minor enough for me to still climb on because they don't feel like anything, and active loading/recovery will help them go away anyways. I just finished a 20 minute repeater protocol today - Trained the four finger open-handed on the beastmaker 2000's biggest edge (I think it's around 30mm?) Did 7 seconds on, 3 seconds off 5 times, then did that for 3 total sets. Rested 5 minutes between each set. I plan to add weight to this repeater protocol. It's hard enough so that it's challenging, but easy enough that I can progressively overload it. I'm going to do this for 3 weeks, then switch to a moonboarding protocol. I didn't think to practice footwork afterwards, that's a good idea I'll save for next time. My fingers feel great. Tired, but otherwise fine, which is expected since that's how most of my crimp heavy days are."
},
{
"poster": 191480,
"content": "had a comp today, scored 1st place, first comp ever, in the adv. mens, only have been climbing 3 months and i'll be honest, i think i fucking hate climbing now; it was fun before, this was the most unfun shit i've ever done in my life."
},
{
"poster": 191498,
"content": "I was super close to sending my a two new climbs that previously felt impossible but my wrist popped out of place or something on some open hand shit and now it hurts :( had an MRI today"
},
{
"poster": 191524,
"content": ">>191480 >comp >this was the most unfun shit i've ever done in my life. Welcome to competition climbing, it will only get worse"
},
{
"poster": 191525,
"content": ">>191498 You'll be fine. Don't listen to the fear-mongering fuckheads telling you to take \"months if not years or decades\" break from climbing. Climb shit you can without pain. Look up wrist strengthening exercises on youtube and commit to those therapies on the side. If you're wrist is good enough to type on 4chan, odds are it'll be good enough to get back to normal within 2-3 weeks max. If you really want a diagnosis, give me the time & date of the incident (I refuse to call anything that didn't cause bleeding/bruising an injury), as well as what you were doing for the two sessions prior. Questions: 1) - Did you climb two or more days in a row? Did you receive adequate rest before this climb? 2) - Was there any symptom or minor ache you had before it finally popped? 3) - Did you continue climbing on it after? Or did you end the session because it hurt? 4) - How much time passed between the incident and getting an MRI? 5) - What's the pain on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being just aches slightly, anything above a 7 means it hurts too much to climb. I want you to know that lots of people will tell you to \"take time off\" blah, it's all rubbish. Nobody wants to be told they can't do their favorite thing, so I'm not gonna tell you that either. Nowadays, actual fucking anatomy is being brought to everybody's attention. It's becoming common knowledge that tissues recover properly after being loaded. So even IF shit hurt, you'd still want to gently load the wrist to make sure it heals faster, and to make sure the tissues heal properly. Rest alone usually means the tissue won't be configured properly. So you'll be fine."
},
{
"poster": 191531,
"content": ">>191480 this is what happens when you make a non-competitive sport competitive, go climb outside"
},
{
"poster": 191572,
"content": ">>191531 >Be me >Indoor climber fag >Climb V7s >Life's good.exe >Cloimb outside >V5's are hard as shit >\"Climb outdoors mate, it's less competitive\" >Outdoor 5.11c is harder than indoor 5.12b >\"C'mon guys, isn't this fun? It's so much less competitive\" >Lmfao, what do you mean you're struggling Clearly you're not the hotshot you think you are >\"Oh great, another indoor climbing fag\" >\"So much less competitive\" Why are outdoor climbers like this?"
},
{
"poster": 191577,
"content": ">>191572 Good. Stay in your soft gym with all your lgbtq2+- troons"
},
{
"poster": 191578,
"content": ">>191577 Realistically, I'd like to open a modern gym corporation which is as conservative as possible. Moment you step in, rather than see 32+ brands of rainbow coated climbing shoes and vending machines filled with \"lattes\", it'd be a blue lives matter flag, with a display of guns used by officers and veterans. You wouldn't smell parfum at the entrance, but rather gunpowder. There'd be television screens playing Top Gun/Top Gun: Maverick on loop, instead of \"Only Woman Wednesdays, #girlpower\" advertisements. We'd still grade softer than indoors, but there'd still be mandatory sandbagging to make other cuck gyms feel humbled. Memberships would be cheap, roughly half of that demanded by those pro-woke fucks who audaciously ask for $90+ a month. Instead of yoga classes, we'd have gun instructors come over to tell you about your 2A rights, then partner with shooting ranges to send climbers over there to get them certified (assuming this gym's in a fag state where there's no open carry, which it likely will be because texas has little need for a gym like this...). My dream gym is one that makes climbing fucking cool, rather than shove this bullshit fat positivity every time I enter a gym. No anon, I don't plan to stay in these tranny gyms for much longer..."
},
{
"poster": 191582,
"content": ">>191578 Why would you play pro gay films in a conservative establishment?"
},
{
"poster": 191593,
"content": ">>191525 The first incident was on February 19, but it reoccurred on March 17 . I had done pretty casual stuff in the gym for two sessions prior, mostly sub-limit bouldering. 1) Rest was standard. The injury was on the first \"difficult\" climb of the day after two warm ups, but I had already done that climb before 2) No symptoms prior. It happened when I made a hard move off a sit start to a sloping edge with my right hand; I don't usually use open hand/three finger drag so I think that the dynamic force was just too much for my wrist 3) I did continue to climb, but it didn't bother me on anything that I could half/full crimp, and didn't hurt when I wasn't climbing 4) I had the MRI yesterday, so about a month since the first occurrence and a week after the re-occurrence 5) Pain right now is fine when my wrist is straight, 1/10. It hurts the most when my wrist is in full extension and the pain increases as I supinate it. I went climbing in the gym and the pain was immediate on a specific move where I was on the spray wall and holding a horizontal pinch with my right hand, most of my weight on my left foot. As I tried to pull through the pinch the pain increased. But this pain is different than the popping out of place pain that happened when I was climbing on real rock"
},
{
"poster": 191594,
"content": ">>191301 Do you think beginners with like 6 months of experience should do hangboard and moonboard training?"
},
{
"poster": 191644,
"content": ">>191594 Not that anon but if you can moonboard, then moonboard. Try doing it once a week. Don't be stupid on it and you'll be fine. If shit aches, stop doing it, but doing crimpy stuff at first can make your fingers feel worked. Just don't overdo it. >Should I wait X many years to start hangboarding No, you can start now, but again, don't over-do it. Start by gently loading your fingers in the four-finger half crimp position, with your feet on the ground. Gently take some weight off your feet and put it on your fingers. Load your fingers for 7 seconds, then unload them for 3. This is one rep. Do 4-5 reps for one set. Do 2-3 sets once a week. This is called a repeater protocol, and it's a fantastic way to get your fingers used to the stress of crimping. Take it super slow, keep it to the end of a session and don't try and kill yourself on it and you'll be fine. The retards saying, \"oh only an EXPERIENCED climber can do X\" are redditors who want to feel better about their worthless lives. The only people getting injured are idiots doing max-hangs with a stupidly heavy weight without resting at the end of a session and then do this for multiple days in a row. A single workout will, in all likelihood, never injure you. So just be smart about it. As for the intensity of the repeater workout, keep it challenging, but not \"Oh fuck me I'm dying\" hard. As your fingers get stronger, take more weight off your feet and put them on your hands. Within a month, you'll find that it's hard to load your fingers and make it feel challenging with your feet still on the ground. That's the moment you take your feet off the ground and start doing bodyweight repeaters. You don't even have to stick to the 7 seconds on, 3 seconds off model, you can do 5 seconds on, 5 off, etc. Just make sure you're incrementally loading your fingers more and more over time. Good luck anon"
},
{
"poster": 191649,
"content": ">>191582 Homoeroticism is A-OK if it's in the Navy. The gayest military-establishment on earth (God bless them) >>191593 >The first incident was on February 19, but it reoccurred on March 17 . Okay so this happened twice, and you rested 4 weeks between the occurrences. >3) I did continue to climb, but it didn't bother me on anything that I could half/full crimp, and didn't hurt when I wasn't climbing That's really telling. It shows that it was really just a tweak more than anything, it's nothing that should keep you from climbing. >I went climbing in the gym and the pain was immediate on a specific move Okay that's GOOD that it's only specific moves that trigger it. It means it's very limited in how it can affect you. >But this pain is different than the popping out of place pain that happened when I was climbing on real rock This sounds like a wrist tweak to me. Mind if I ask how long you've been climbing? Here's the prognosis- You're going to be fine. Slopers can fuck ALOT of people up, just like crimps can fuck alot of people up. Don't blame it on anatomy, blame it on strength, which is something that can be trained. For the time being, you need to climb normally, but avoid any styles of climbing that hurt it. If you truly cannot limit boulder without unbearable pain, then climb light, but you should still climb 2-3 days a week as normal. Even if you're doing a hard project and it hurts slightly for a second, don't be too bothered, just monitor and assess. If your pain is getting worse workout to workout, you need to lighten the load. You know you're on the right track when, at worst, the pain doesn't change much, or when it's improving session to session. At some point, you're going to need to strengthen your wrists. Even when it's recovered, it may still cause issues in the far future. Someone with strong wrists won't be bothered as much as someone with weak wrists, so truly focus on how you can strengthen them over time."
},
{
"poster": 191650,
"content": ">>191593 Doing wrist curls/barbell exercises like benching and overhead-pressing can help. Look up videos on youtube or forum posts where people had similar issues bothering them and see what helped them. You don't have to stop climbing, but you need to figure out why your wrists are weak, and focus on how to address that. I know lots of strong V8-V9 climbers who get their wrists fucked by V4 slopers. It just happens to some people. Also in the future, maybe limit slopers like you'd limit crimps. You wouldn't want to do nothing but limit crimps. Similarly, save the hard sloper crap for when you feel confident. Just be smart and train as best you can."
},
{
"poster": 191708,
"content": ">>191644 Thanks"
},
{
"poster": 191728,
"content": ">>191649 >>191650 Thanks for the advice. I've been climbing for around three years now, and I've always been weakest on boulders (I think from a combination of weak wrists and weak open hand/3FD). I'm definitely planning on doing general wrist strengthening, but there are a lot of options. I previously was doing reverse wrist curls, regular wrist curls, and supination/pronation, but I don't know what specific part of my wrist is weak. I'll see if the orthopedist has any specific recommendations for me at my next appt."
},
{
"poster": 191740,
"content": ">>191480 lol >>191572 go castrate yourself you fragile-ego faggot. since you're clinging so hard to your soft gym grades it's clear you'll never be a good climber."
},
{
"poster": 191760,
"content": "outdoor climbers: >Just climb outdoors, it's not competitive at all Also outdoor climbers >>191740 >go castrate yourself you fragile-ego faggot. since you're clinging so hard to your soft gym grades it's clear you'll never be a good climber. I repeat- Why are outdoor climbers like this?"
},
{
"poster": 191772,
"content": "Long shot but fuck if I’m gonna try and use Mountain Project for this. I’m driving out to Bishop on Thursday night, staying till Wednesday. I know it’s supposed to be a lil rainy Friday night and Saturday but I have very little time off and secured this weekend ages ago. The homies I’m supposed to go with are very close to bailing so I’m wondering if anyone is interested in meeting up and climbing. I have a small tick list of things I want to climb, mainly V4-5 boulders in the Happy’s and Buttermilks and I want to do some sport climbing in the O.R.G Will be bringing 3 crash pads, a 70m rope, and a rack of draws. I’m not super strong and not really focused on crushing but I just love getting out there and having a good time in the outdoors I’ll be checking back on this post every couple hours so drop a reply if you’re interested in meeting up and climbing >picrel me on my favorite V0 in the ‘milks"
},
{
"poster": 191774,
"content": ">>191760 I've never climbed outdoors in my life. You're simply typing the most pathetic shit I've ever read in /cg/"
},
{
"poster": 191781,
"content": "just tried out Mammut chalk (chunky) for the first time after using a Metolius chalk ball for more than a year and holy shit, it feels like cheating. I can now hang off the hangboard's rounded sloper until my arms give out because my hands have absolutely no slip. I thought some chalks being better than others was a meme (like a 10% difference at best) but it's actually night and day. the best chalks must be the most performance-improving product you can buy other than shoes"
},
{
"poster": 191784,
"content": ">>191774 Who pissed in this guy's salad? >>191781 This is 100% true. Just wait until you start using Magdust. That shit's a game changer. Hands stick to the wall like glue."
},
{
"poster": 191787,
"content": ">>191781 >>191784 wild, I have the opposite experience. I agree the metolius super chalk is fucking garbage but I've tried probably all the high end chalks (including magdust) and so long as it's not too soft to stick to my hands there's no real difference. Like I've never not been able to climb something because of my chalk. For reference I project V6/7 outside"
},
{
"poster": 191791,
"content": ">>191787 Maybe I noticed a huge difference because I've been relying on the stupid no-name brand chalk that the gym I go to sells. It's the same chalk they have buckets of for people who rent the damn shit, so i figured \"chalk is chalk\" and climbed with it. Then I got magdust and instantly noticed a change."
},
{
"poster": 191792,
"content": ">>191791 the low end of chalk is definitely trash, but you also don't need to spend a lot of money. Check out Frank Endo Gymnastic Chalk, it's usually like $3 and comes in a big block, just put the block in your bucket or bag and crush it down to your desired consistency."
},
{
"poster": 191793,
"content": ">>190125 Why don't you do it because you enjoy it?"
},
{
"poster": 191799,
"content": ">>191784 >Magdust do the best competition climbers use it? no? then why would I pay so much extra for it, other than to show the world that I'm a complete fanboy? >>191787 strange. have you actually comparison-tested on a sloper before? but obviously, different hands will do better with different chalks, so I'm not going to tell you your personal experience is wrong >>191792 >you also don't need to spend a lot of money Mammut (non-liquid) chalk is one of the cheapest"
},
{
"poster": 191804,
"content": ">>191799 >do the best competition climbers use it? no? then why would I pay so much extra for it, Do you want to stop being a faggot? No? Then why bitch when people pay for quality product that's proven to be better than other shittier chalks. Imagine being a poorfag shitting on me for paying 3 extra dollars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO_ MXHn9TYU"
},
{
"poster": 191808,
"content": ">>191793 >Why don't you do it because you enjoy it? What's there to enjoy? >Having to fucking hike out in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with a bunch of idiots who have no clue what they're doing >Nobody can find a route and when we finally do, it's too fucking sandbagged >or sketchy (we don't have enough crash pads) >so we hike out 30 minutes just to feel like losers who can't get up a fucking crack. >Then when we do find something we can climb, the sense of accomplishment is ruined when we realize it was some fucking V2 named \"Jared's asshole\". No clue how to build anchors other than a quad, and I don't fucking trust it enough to make it work, and fuckers charge you $200 just to take a anchor tying course rather than just give you some time to tell you if anything's wrong with the knots you already know. This sport is shit, fuck you."
},
{
"poster": 191818,
"content": ">>191804 >HURRR muh edgy climbtuber says it's the best chalk and that's clearly as good of data as what the top 0.001% of climbers select stop posting sperg >>191808 >the sense of accomplishment is ruined when we realize it was some fucking V2 named \"Jared's asshole\" top kek"
},
{
"poster": 191840,
"content": ">>191818 >Youtuber actually demonstrates chalk on fucking sloper hold >sticks to it like glue >Poorfag on 4chan doesn't like that >Makes his wittle wallet hurt, so sad. I don't think climbing's for you brother. >that's clearly as good of data as what the top 0.001% of climbers select LMFAO he thinks he's in the top 1%. You sound like the type of redditor faggot who copies what the pros do. >I only follow Arnold Schwarzenegger's brosplit because he's the GOAT. >I only eat foods that top celebrities eat, because why would I want to eat foods that uglies eat? >I only wear climbing shoes that Adam Ondra approves of You're a V3 climbing at best working on that Jared's Asshole V2 outdoor project. Kys."
},
{
"poster": 191848,
"content": ">>191772 Are you still on the Eastside? I live in Vegas, let’s climb sometime if you live close by"
},
{
"poster": 191863,
"content": ">>191840 Why are you so butthurt?"
},
{
"poster": 191872,
"content": ">>191863 The only one giving anyone attitude was that prick. Imagine bitching at someone because they opt to spend more than you. I'm not gonna apologize for being richer than you and buying the best shit on the market. Mr. \"I only do what the pros do\" is probably some larper faggot who doesn't even climb outdoors."
},
{
"poster": 191878,
"content": ">>191872 5–10 years ago the climbing community at large would poke fun of you for having FrictionLabs chalk or merch, and it's only natural that the same happens with Rungne. Grow a spine and stop wall-of-texting in defense of your \"\"\"luxury brand\"\"\""
},
{
"poster": 191881,
"content": ">>191872 You're having a meltdown because someone made fun of you for wasting your money on snake oil. You've embarrassed yourself, now gtfo."
},
{
"poster": 191886,
"content": ">>191878 It's cheaper than friction labs and it really is quite grippy compared to mediocre chalks, it's good chalk, who gives a fuck who makes it. Besides only crusty boomers don't like Magnus."
},
{
"poster": 191887,
"content": "Best shoe for sticking onto slabs indoor for small feet?"
},
{
"poster": 191904,
"content": ">>191886 Nor that anon. I hate magnus and I still buy magdust. >>191863 >>191878 >>191881 I'm surprised more people aren't focusing on what the other dude said. The sperg-anon isn't mad about the cost, he's mad about the other dude refusing it because apparently the pros don't use it (source? I know quite a few V15 climbers and above who use magdust when they get their hands on it). cringe."
},
{
"poster": 191936,
"content": ">>191904 >I'm surprised more people aren't focusing on what the other dude said. of course you're still seething a day later, you have aspergers. figure out how to grow a spine and move on or stop posting, faggot"
},
{
"poster": 191937,
"content": "dont the olympic guys mostly use bison designs competition chalk? its not like they dont use some fancy chalk that would be retarded when its allowed to do so"
},
{
"poster": 191938,
"content": ">>191904 >I know quite a few V15 climbers and above who use magdust when they get their hands on it >I know quite a few V15 climbers and above >when they get their hands on it You couldn't have written a more fake-climber sentence if you tried. Really embarrassing to lie on the slowest board of an anonymous website. >>191937 Definitely not. Saying they're the #1 chalk and \"used by premier athletes\" is like coffee shops saying they have the world's best coffee. You're falling for the oldest marketing trick--of course elite climbers worldwide aren't buying chalk from Colorado. >its not like they dont use some fancy chalk Ondra uses Mammut which is almost as cheap as any brand. What's clear to me after my personal experience is that US chalk doesn't quite hit the mark"
},
{
"poster": 191954,
"content": "any good futaba ito images bros"
},
{
"poster": 191960,
"content": ">>191938 >Ondra uses Mammut which is almost as cheap as any brand >Ondra only drinks malt liquor, so I'll never drink beer >Ondra eats ass three times a week, which is why I also try to eat as much ass as possible >Ondra dates a white girl, so I'll only date white girls >Ondra is 6'1, so I'll try to get height-increasing surgery to match that This is what you sound like."
},
{
"poster": 191963,
"content": ">>191960 i started using neck rings to extend my neck length but it dosent seem to have improved my climbing, got any clue why?"
},
{
"poster": 191964,
"content": "been in bishop a week and i’m not climbing shit!!!"
},
{
"poster": 191977,
"content": ">>191963 Gee it's almost like emulating the best doesn't mean shit when you don't climb as hard as they do with their body type. I'm gonna post my receipt for every bulk order of magdust I buy."
},
{
"poster": 192000,
"content": ">>191960 >>191963 >>191977 imagine missing the point this hard. you're entitled to waste all the money you want since the best chalks are cheap, but you've spent literal days now screaming and sobbing in defense of your money wasting on 4cdn.org of all places. clear mental illness"
},
{
"poster": 192002,
"content": ">>191954"
},
{
"poster": 192007,
"content": ">>191954"
},
{
"poster": 192009,
"content": ">>192000 It's not a waste of money if the shit costs 2 dollars more per 100 grams and actually provides a performance boost. What you retards don't get is that a quality product's a quality product."
},
{
"poster": 192011,
"content": ">>191960 >>191977 You're the fake-climber faggot who said >I know quite a few V15 climbers and above who use magdust when they get their hands on it howembarrassing4u, stop posting retard."
},
{
"poster": 192014,
"content": ">>192011 Will Bosi uses Magdust you fucking retard. Ethan Pringle used it for a year back when he was projecting V14 projects, he mentioned it in his earlier content. Meanwhile you don't even climb outdoors. Enjoy being a poorfag who shits on people for getting quality gear. Not that it'd matter to you. Do you still use gym rentals?"
},
{
"poster": 192073,
"content": "I flashed the under 15s comp set"
},
{
"poster": 192082,
"content": ">>192007 Wot the hell is a BWC?"
},
{
"poster": 192083,
"content": ">>192009 Nah, it’s just funny that a recreational intermediate climber thinks that spending more money on chalk makes a difference for him."
},
{
"poster": 192093,
"content": ">>192083 Honestly if the impact is as big that video made it look then it probably will."
},
{
"poster": 192098,
"content": ">>192083 you're a bit of a midwit if you don't think there can be a difference between chalks. i'd gotten some trango shit for free, felt like silk on the hands but it couldn't keep my hands dry for shit. went back to white gold and stopped having that problem."
},
{
"poster": 192100,
"content": ">>192073 short climber detected"
},
{
"poster": 192102,
"content": "Is having small feet an advantage in climbing or not?"
},
{
"poster": 192114,
"content": ">>192082 dunno, either the boulder world cup or a big white cock"
},
{
"poster": 192124,
"content": ">>192002 >>192007 >>192114"
},
{
"poster": 192141,
"content": ">>192124 We get it, you're an incel. Stop posting."
},
{
"poster": 192197,
"content": ">>192102 No"
},
{
"poster": 192206,
"content": ">>192102 Yes"
},
{
"poster": 192207,
"content": ">>192197 Meant it isn't a disadvantage, but I read it wrong."
},
{
"poster": 192340,
"content": ">>192002 Ellen Page lookin' chink >>192009 >2 dollars more per 100 grams lol, lmao. why lie when you know it's more than double that >>192014 you're friends with bosi and pringle? sick af brah >>192093 you're right, that was rigorous experimentation on display"
},
{
"poster": 192414,
"content": ">>190403 Somehow this being a shitty screenshot instead of a properly exported image makes it better."
},
{
"poster": 192487,
"content": "Anyone climb at Riveter? Would like to have a boulder/belay fren"
},
{
"poster": 192515,
"content": ">>192487 don't live there but is western nc as beautiful as I imagine it?"
},
{
"poster": 192525,
"content": ">>192515 Incredibly gorgeous, especially as soon as when you leave Asheville proper (since all the rapid development is retirement condos or overpriced apartments for the WFH techies), truly gorgeous. Thinking about moving to Burnsville and it’s just green as far as you can see and all the shades of blue that make up the mountains in the distance"
},
{
"poster": 192539,
"content": "I got the veloce in a couple days ago and like a bunch of reviews online said the heel cup was super wide compared to any other shoe. So I went and tried on the women's version and it was much better. I think the reason for this is because people size down a lot for these but I am not interested in that yet. so if you're sizing down 6 sizes that heel cup will probably be fine but if you're only sizing down half a size or a full size it will be too wide."
},
{
"poster": 192549,
"content": "Going to Pawtuckaway for the first time in about a month. Is the climbing there crimpy, slopey, etc? What can I train to give me the best chance at sending?"
},
{
"poster": 192619,
"content": "i gained 2kg over the spring break ='("
},
{
"poster": 192626,
"content": "bouldering! on non-boulders!"
},
{
"poster": 192643,
"content": ">>192539 As long as the heel doesn't slide off your foot when you're heel hooking it's not a huge deal to have some dead space in the heel. Just my 2c, it's not that precise of a placement, so it doesn't matter if it's not as accurate or the heel smooshes when you bear down on it."
},
{
"poster": 192648,
"content": ">>192626 is that maine?"
},
{
"poster": 192664,
"content": ">>192643 I guess it's just annoying as hell and weird looking."
},
{
"poster": 192706,
"content": ">>192539 I have cursed duck feet and I've had veloces fall off during heel hooks. And if I downsize any more the front starts pinching and defeats half the point of buying veloces"
},
{
"poster": 192723,
"content": "Just been bouldering Did 10 V4-5s Then did some weighted Max hangs off a 20 mm edge Been climbing a year Hard V5s still kicking my arse"
},
{
"poster": 192724,
"content": ">>191083 I saw her today at Volume 1"
},
{
"poster": 192725,
"content": ">>192723 stay here you cunt"
},
{
"poster": 192728,
"content": ">>192723 keep going boulderbro!"
},
{
"poster": 192729,
"content": "pogos/moon kicks are easily my favourite movement in climbing, so happy theyre somewhat common both indoors and outdoors"
},
{
"poster": 192798,
"content": ">>192706 people really just buy high-rated climbing shoes instead of trying half a dozen pairs at a retailer and picking what fits their foot the best. If your shoe comes off during the climb that's your fault. >>192723 sounds like normal progression. what % bodyweight?"
},
{
"poster": 192822,
"content": ">>192798 Like +30% added Obviously I'd like to double that eventually"
},
{
"poster": 192843,
"content": "Just as the weather was getting better, it snowed in goddamnit. Fucking 20 cm overnight."
},
{
"poster": 192844,
"content": ">>192798 For feet like that there probably aren't any options to try on that actually fit right. I tried on every pair at two stores and still had to settle."
},
{
"poster": 192877,
"content": ">>192822 very normal. hangboarding hard at least once a week, I recommend repeaters. If you dont own a board and are going to the gym to accomplish this, work on footwork on easy problems for the rest of your session since hangboarding is always over quick."
},
{
"poster": 192885,
"content": "I got the results from my MRI and nothing looks strange enough to warrant my experiences. Based upon my hypermobile shoulders and elbows, they think that I just have really loose wrists (they called it something like mid-carpal instability and subluxation). Has anyone dealt with anything like this before?"
},
{
"poster": 192890,
"content": "does tenaya make shoes made to order? my order from their website has been \"sent to factory\" and has not updated for the past few days."
},
{
"poster": 192912,
"content": "Bouldering later"
},
{
"poster": 192914,
"content": "I might start doing weighted dips"
},
{
"poster": 192967,
"content": "Have any of you ever gotten to try a Grasshopper board? idk why there aren't any other boards with symmetry, I'd personally love to repeat problems flipped. It'd give tons of insight as to my weaknesses with certain limbs. the big slopers also look super cool but I'm guessing the 12x12 boards are extremely rare"
},
{
"poster": 192968,
"content": "How do I get better at climbing things that aren't jugs? I'm really bad at anything that isn't a jug."
},
{
"poster": 192976,
"content": ">>192968"
},
{
"poster": 192977,
"content": ">>192976 This specific hangboard or any of them?"
},
{
"poster": 192979,
"content": ">>192977 holy shit what a fast response for a slow board. here's the qrd: • crimps: anyone can get better at these by \"just climbing\", but only up to intermediate grades. look into finger hypertrophy; the main idea here is that you need consistent progressive overload for finger gains (no duh). use a half-crimp grip (look it up). the current research indicates that repeaters on hangboards are the best for finger gains, but don't hurt yourself (only you know your limits, if you palpate a pulley and it hurts you need to stop to let it heal) • pinches: most people are inherently good at these. just utilize your thumb well and consider wrist strengthening exercises if you're struggling • slopers: chalk is the most important thing here, but having your center of gravity under slopers and also applying lots of force through your fingers and palm (maximize the surface area) will get the job done if you're strong enough. takes practice • pockets: this is where your hangboard pocket training comes in • underclings: unlike most other holds, these are easier to hold when they're closer to your waist • sidepull: pull sideways."
},
{
"poster": 192980,
"content": ">>192977 >>192979 and yes the Beastmaker 1000 is considered the best hangboard for most climbers, just be aware that if you press a finger against the sides of a slot that's generally considered cheating (you should be able to do the same hang on a campus rung). there's nothing missing on a 1000 for beginner and mid-level climbers except for sloper variety."
},
{
"poster": 192985,
"content": ">>189862 >Went bouldering for the first time with my dad >He's 6'5 >Been struggling with a route >He just grabs the hold I have to dyno to get to Am I NGMI bros?"
},
{
"poster": 192986,
"content": ">>190037 >He doesn't keep climbing until they turn callous again from chalk"
},
{
"poster": 192992,
"content": ">>192985 bosi's 5'9\" so as long as your wingspan isn't below that it's possible. hate that fuckin fag thoughever"
},
{
"poster": 192995,
"content": ">>192992 I'm 6'1 atm my wingspan is average for that height, feels like im too short for the big reaches and too tall for the small sections"
},
{
"poster": 192999,
"content": "I've been to three different bouldering gyms in the last week- I'm starting to take my stuff with me everywhere I happen to go Still a V4/5 noob, for now"
},
{
"poster": 193029,
"content": ">>192992 He seems like a nice dude."
},
{
"poster": 193058,
"content": ">>192995 >feels like im too short for the big reaches and too tall for the small sections you're just shit. you have Ondra height. >>192999 that's sick, wish I had more than one to choose from. wouldn't affect my training but it'd be more fun. >>193029 his weaselly, hesitating sociability is half of what's wrong with climbers. nu-hippies are the other half."
},
{
"poster": 193059,
"content": "My gym's roof leaks so bad there's moss growing inside the hold when they've not been reset for a while. Does this even count as indoor climbing anymore?"
},
{
"poster": 193067,
"content": ">>192992 >as long as your wingspan isn't below that it's possible There is no correlation with APE index and climbing better."
},
{
"poster": 193076,
"content": "Over the next year I swear I will leave V4-5 normies behind in the most brutal fashion, and I will do that with a belt and a 1000 beastmaker"
},
{
"poster": 193077,
"content": "I can do pull ups for reps with 60% of my bodyweight attached I just need more grip strength"
},
{
"poster": 193078,
"content": "Bouldering is the only thing I enjoy"
},
{
"poster": 193079,
"content": "Two more grades indoors until I learn to accept being alone again"
},
{
"poster": 193084,
"content": "At what grade will I get over her?"
},
{
"poster": 193088,
"content": ">>193067 >There is no correlation with APE [sic] index and climbing better use your brain you mongrel. the average global height for men is 171cm and the average wingspan is +0. There are more than 60 9b climbers, post even just 6 with wingspans below 171cm. you can't because they aren't there."
},
{
"poster": 193090,
"content": ">>193078 same except climbing in general. gym rope climbing can be fucking awesome, driving for an hour + and then lugging heavy gear for half an hour is not. I'm sure I'd love outdoor sport climbing if I lived somewhere with cool and or beautiful routes but where I live it's both inconvenient and shit."
},
{
"poster": 193105,
"content": ">>193058 I don’t see him in that light at all. To me he just seems like a generally decent bloke."
},
{
"poster": 193119,
"content": ">>192885 i assume you are this guy: >>191498 i also have hypermobile joints. i never had the exact issue you described. but it happened to me in both wrists that i pulled too hard, had a popping sensation in the joint and it would hurt afterwards. the pain presented at the extremes of hand rotation, either downwards or upwards to the forearm. it didn't really limit my climbing, i was just wary of the pain getting worse and it resolved itself in a few weeks or months"
},
{
"poster": 193127,
"content": "For me it's tension overload No idea why these normies can't climb V6 and wonder why they can't Its because they literally aren't training their fingers Literally Hang off a 20 mm edge Add weight to your fat arse Then when you can reasonably hang at that weight (7 seconds ISH) Add some more weight You fat cunt"
},
{
"poster": 193128,
"content": "You literally aren't getting stronger by just climbing How are you All you are doing is getting perhaps more insightful, wait 'ive seen this route before' But it means less than nothing Stick a fucking weight between your legs and get hanging off a 20 mm edge You fat bastard"
},
{
"poster": 193129,
"content": "why do all the gym gumbies here that talk about nothing but training never mention grades above V6? theres more to climbing than grades anyways go outside already its fucking spring now"
},
{
"poster": 193130,
"content": "Yeah bros Hugging some shitty globohomo slop v3 jugs is somehow going to improve my grip strength somehow If I just keep hanging off some jugs my grip strength will magically improve Just climbing makes you stronger (no it fucking doesn't)"
},
{
"poster": 193131,
"content": "Lot of brutal truthies being dropped here"
},
{
"poster": 193137,
"content": "If you aren't hanging off a 20mm edge with an ever increasing amount of weight between your legs I suggest you give up immediately, because you simply aren't going to make it You'll just be that old dude, who can't grip a thing but looks kinda good because everyone else is a normie. This isn't how I want to see my men perish"
},
{
"poster": 193143,
"content": "My state fucking sucks and makes me fill out a permit to just climb a few boulders"
},
{
"poster": 193147,
"content": ">>193143 What the fuck? I recommend weighted hangs on a 20mm edge"
},
{
"poster": 193148,
"content": ">>193147 I don't see the point of doing such large edges unless they're negative."
},
{
"poster": 193152,
"content": "I too, recommend weighted hangs on a 20mm edge And like always, I recommend weight over form. When you think it's time to up that weight just up it baby don't even think twice"
},
{
"poster": 193155,
"content": "I am going to get so fucking good at climbing bros"
},
{
"poster": 193157,
"content": "Something about the idea of yanks climbing disgusts me"
},
{
"poster": 193158,
"content": ">>193157"
},
{
"poster": 193159,
"content": "The Font, borough is graded hard AF, almost surprisingly I'm pretty sure it's the most central bouldering gym in Donedon, and you would almost suspect such a place to be graded soft, but a V4 there is a proper V4 A v3 at the Font is basically a V5 at LSD, Leeds"
},
{
"poster": 193162,
"content": ">>193127 >>193128 >>193128 >>193130 >>193137 stop posting you fucking sperg and or schizo. get a fucking grip"
},
{
"poster": 193176,
"content": "I don't even climb anymore I just watch magnus videos again"
},
{
"poster": 193181,
"content": "I'm nearing 30 and I get childlike excitement thinking about going climbing later in the day. feels good bros."
},
{
"poster": 193189,
"content": ">>193162 lmao zachy rekt"
},
{
"poster": 193197,
"content": "Alri"
},
{
"poster": 193198,
"content": "max hang on jugs guy..."
},
{
"poster": 193204,
"content": ">Shawn Rab left Evolv for Scarpa It’s over. Why the fuck did I buy Evolv shoes"
},
{
"poster": 193208,
"content": "What exercises do you recommend to be a better climber. I'm going to be away from it for a bit and want to stay decent. Currently a solid V3"
},
{
"poster": 193210,
"content": ">>193208 >assuming you have zero access to any equipment or normal gym Pushups ‘til failure. Pullups ‘til failure. Pistol squats ‘til failure. Crimp pullups on doorframe ‘til failure."
},
{
"poster": 193213,
"content": ">>193208 Weighted hangs on a 20mm edge."
},
{
"poster": 193214,
"content": ">this is the guy telling you to do weighted hangs on a 20mm edge Kek"
},
{
"poster": 193241,
"content": ">>193214 i like him, his cat videos are cute and his outdoor videos are surprisingly gnarly"
},
{
"poster": 193289,
"content": ">can do pullups on my 20mm doorway >can't hang on it for shit I suppose I'm just abusing momentum to stay on for the pull ups."
},
{
"poster": 193292,
"content": ">>193210 >'til failure no. solid number of reps a few away from failure, then perform as many sets as you can without the reps dropping. >pistol squats 'til failure you're so fucking retarded holy shit. >>193289 \"abusing momentum\" is a real climbing skill since explosive pullups are the most important variant of pullups for climbers to be proficient at. but you do need to do hangs for finger hypertrophy."
},
{
"poster": 193308,
"content": ">>193292 Kill yourself, dyel"
},
{
"poster": 193385,
"content": ">>193308 >exponentially larger volume without junk miles = less gains than one set stop posting dumbfuck. have no doubt that I squat more, deadlift more and climb harder than you. pistol squats are a mobility diagnosis and about as far from being an effective climbing exercise as possible."
},
{
"poster": 193438,
"content": "Bouldering later"
},
{
"poster": 193439,
"content": ">>193210 >Pistol squats ‘til failure Extremely overrated. t. squated 1/3 of my bodyweight for 5 reps. When I started"
},
{
"poster": 193440,
"content": ">>193439 >When I started *delete this"
},
{
"poster": 193452,
"content": ">>193438 moonboarding later"
},
{
"poster": 193454,
"content": "how do you guys get away with climbing more than once a week? i go to the gym for about 5-6 hours at a time once a week. boulder as much as possible and then top rop until failure. i'm usually sore af until i go again. do people who go more often train for lower amounts of time?"
},
{
"poster": 193455,
"content": "From now on I'm just not going to read any posts containing the phrase \"until failure\"."
},
{
"poster": 193457,
"content": ">>193210 >Crimp pullups on doorframe ‘til failure. Is this actually a good idea? I can do 10 regular pull ups but can't do more than 1 crimp pull up. What about open hand pull ups on a pull up bar? Seems safer for tendons desu. t. newfag"
},
{
"poster": 193473,
"content": ">>193454 I don't dedicate that much time to climb in a day, but I climb and weight train every other day without any issues unless I injure myself. You need to work on your recovery if it takes you a week to stop feeling sore. Stop drinking and get good sleep."
},
{
"poster": 193476,
"content": ">>193473 drinking? who said im drinking. i drink g-fuel and water. i do notice that im the only person who stays that long in the gym but it's a long drive to get there so i just carve out one day a week and climb hard."
},
{
"poster": 193511,
"content": ">>193454 >i go to the gym for about 5-6 hours at a time I go for 2 hours at a time like twice a week I try to do 3 times a week but it's hard. I'm not sore after."
},
{
"poster": 193515,
"content": ">>193511 i'd be interested to see the difference between training for longer periods but less often. i am on my 6th day of bouldering now (after a 10 year break, so i do have experience) but i'm already back to projecting V5s. feels like every time i go back im measurably improving. the recovery is a little brutal."
},
{
"poster": 193518,
"content": ">>193515 >i am on my 6th day of bouldering now (after a 10 year break the soreness will go away."
},
{
"poster": 193533,
"content": ">>193455 this >>193457 crimp pullups in general (not \"'til failure\") are ok but not quite as useful as the campus board or, for something more beginner friendly, doing offset pullups on a hangboard. one hand on a top jug, other hand's fingers in a slot. also, if you can do 10 pullups I imagine you could do 3+ crimp pullups on a ~35mm slot. key takeaway here is that half crimp is always quite safe so long as you know your limits (if you feel pain in a pulley a day later, take a week off and then reduce the load). >>193454 there's no way you think people normally spend 5 hours at the climbing gym, lmao. average membership holder probably climbs 1-2 hours per session, with lots of rest in that session. you can do higher intensity training like 4x4s once a week but you can't do it 3x a week. >>193476 like, more than an hour drive? you can definitely get better by just climbing once a week but even then it doesn't make any sense at all for your session to be longer than 2.5 hours. your fingers and forearms shouldn't last longer than that, anything more is certainly junk miles."
},
{
"poster": 193534,
"content": ">>193533 >your fingers and forearms shouldn't last longer than that idk they do? i rest a lot and work from the gym but i probably climb for at least 4 hours during my time there. >there's no way you think people normally spend 5 hours at the climbing gym i don't think i implied that but if i did it's a mistake."
},
{
"poster": 193536,
"content": "bros..."
},
{
"poster": 193538,
"content": ">>193534 There is no way you actually spend 4 out of 6 hours „on the wall“. If you do you are actually just standing on the jugs for the most of that time. The only thing that comes to mind is that you are „training“ technique on easy climbs but if you are doing that for this long you have to ask yourself if you are really training something when you can breeze through it without much rest."
},
{
"poster": 193544,
"content": "I climb 10 hours a day seven days a week"
},
{
"poster": 193562,
"content": ">>193533 >if you can do 10 pullups I imagine you could do 3+ crimp pullups on a ~35mm slot I do the crimp pull ups on my doorframe which is ~20mm, so that might be a factor. I'd like to try some stuff on the campus board, but the problem is that I feel like if I go the the gym and boulder hard, I'll be too tired for the campus board and vice versa."
},
{
"poster": 193589,
"content": ">>193214 he's alright but he should get contacts to stop looking like such a pedo"
},
{
"poster": 193593,
"content": "I climbed 1 V8, 3 v7 and 4 v6 today on the tension board 2 at 40 degrees. I tell ya what, it was a good day"
},
{
"poster": 193594,
"content": ">>193589 He'll still look like Quasimodo."
},
{
"poster": 193619,
"content": ">>193593 nice sends. have you tried moonboard?"
},
{
"poster": 193621,
"content": ">>193619 Yes, I like it for training pure power and contact strength but find the tension board 2 to be more rounded and useful for the kind of climbing I'd like to do outside"
},
{
"poster": 193676,
"content": ">>193621 really? I find the small irregular holds on moonboard to be much more similar to an actual outdoor climb than the larger, regularly shaped, gym-standard pinches crimps and slopers on the tension board"
},
{
"poster": 193681,
"content": ">create a new word filter list to make /gif/ browsable for porn >now /cg/ is filtered out on /xs/ I don't know which search term did it tbqhwyf"
},
{
"poster": 193685,
"content": "Hit a bit of a fucking wall with my weighted pull ups at +40kg for 4-5 reps lads 155% of bw"
},
{
"poster": 193686,
"content": "I suppose it doesn't need to be any better than that, I need to get my hang board up and be less of an inflexible bastard"
},
{
"poster": 193739,
"content": ">>193685 >>193686 that's enough pull strength for V8 probably. fingers are of course more important for climbing; few months after I started climbing I could do 40% added bodyweight pullups but only 10% added bodyweight on a 20mm crimp. now those metrics are at 60% and 50% and I've sent outdoor V7s. definitely do some board climbing since 90% of the problems require a high foot move. if those moves don't feel pretty good then I think you're correct in assessing that as one of your biggest weaknesses"
},
{
"poster": 193820,
"content": ">>193739 I can hangboard +130% 20mm These gains feel precious as my progress has been slow, 150% would be nice for now I already feel like it's made a bit of difference, I seem to stick to the wall slightly better"
},
{
"poster": 193865,
"content": "Bros. im going to lead trad for the first time today, wish me luck on not dying :D"
},
{
"poster": 193866,
"content": ">>193865 Sounds really cool, don’t hurt yourself."
},
{
"poster": 193904,
"content": "Just climbed after 5 pints of Black Sheep over 4 hours I didn't really climb any worse than earlier in the week so I consider that progress"
},
{
"poster": 193931,
"content": ">>193865 only had time to do one route after warming up but fuck that was fun, probably one of the best routes ive done also. probably didnt place enough gear but the climbing was super easy despite somewhat wet rock, i mostly placed nuts but managed to get a fucking perfect pink tricam placement when i originally bought it as a joke... forgot to bring my phone up the route so i didnt take any pictures sadly"
},
{
"poster": 193962,
"content": "I'm projecting a V3 right now. It's a sit start overhang with some kinda dynamic step ups. I have the worst hip flexibility ever though so I had to create my own beta for the start cause I can't put my feet on both of the foot holds. I think I got it next time I go though, if I send it it will be my first V3. I got like 80% of the way up but I was tired cause my beta is kinda hard and it was going to be a rest day until my friend asked me if I wanted to go."
},
{
"poster": 193970,
"content": ">>193931 sounds cool, will probably try trad at some point. take any falls?"
},
{
"poster": 193984,
"content": "Actual 6C/V5 at places with proper grading (e.g the font borough, city bloc Leeds) still seems rather difficult to me 11 months of regular climbing in. I'm hoping I will have another eureka moment at some point over the next month In terms of yank/new world YouTube gyms, I'm probably already at V6"
},
{
"poster": 193985,
"content": "Lots of new centres like Last Sundance, Leeds are using new world, YouTube grading I can do 10 v5s there in two hours, but I'm complete shit (for now) and by no means a V5 climber"
},
{
"poster": 193986,
"content": ">Climbing works, Sheffield is the gold standard. Whatever grade you climb there, is what you what you truly climb. How true would you say this truth nugget that gets passed around is, /cg/?"
},
{
"poster": 193987,
"content": "Swear modern climbing gyms like vauxwall London are frauding wildly on their grades Like you will get some little neek student with noodle arms who started climbing after COVID claiming to climb V10"
},
{
"poster": 193995,
"content": ">>189862 Other than some climbing on trees and big rocks as a kid I've never done climbing. I'm in my 30s and no longer in shape but I used to grapple. The last time I applied that old grappling intensity to getting back in shape I ended up hospitalized with rhabdo. What do I need to know in order to make solid progress in climbing without injuring myself?"
},
{
"poster": 194003,
"content": ">>193995 just take it slow at the start and ramp up difficulty at a moderate pace you're not gonna get rhabdo from climbing desu, your forearms will get way too sore to keep climbing way before you'll actually tax the rest of your body that much"
},
{
"poster": 194005,
"content": ">>193984 DO you follow any training programs for things like foot work?"
},
{
"poster": 194006,
"content": ">>193995 >What do I need to know in order to make solid progress in climbing without injuring myself? Take rest days, climb 3 days a week when you start and not 3 days in a row, then start going every other day. But continue to do rest days. And don't use a hangboard for a long time, you just aren't ready for it and you can injure yourself. Also warm up before you climb."
},
{
"poster": 194007,
"content": ">>194005 footwork? whats that? any way i can train it on my beastmaker?"
},
{
"poster": 194008,
"content": ">>194007 >any way i can train it on my beastmaker? Yeah go into a bat hang on it."
},
{
"poster": 194032,
"content": "holy shit bros, gym grades do not matter. assume by default that they're completely wrong and the setters are 90IQ. you have access to boards, no? those grades are relatively accurate. add 1 grade to moonboard problems. >>193995 >>194006 >climb 3 days a week when you start absolutely dogshit advice for someone in their 30s. I recommend once every third or fourth day for a month, if you feel 100% find try every second or third day for a month, then try 3x a week which is a normal intermediate climber goal. if you haven't been climbing for years, any more frequently than 3x/week is fucking retarded. to the anons who haven't been climbing for years but still feel good climbing more than that, you're either very underage or your sessions are complete shit."
},
{
"poster": 194035,
"content": ">>194032 well said"
},
{
"poster": 194044,
"content": "climbing partners try not to oversleep challenge (difficulty IMPOSSIBLE)"
},
{
"poster": 194046,
"content": ">>194032 >to the anons who haven't been climbing for years but still feel good climbing more than that, you're either very underage or your sessions are complete shit. lmao cope harder"
},
{
"poster": 194064,
"content": "I am going bouldering today, I am a bit tired and groggy But I honestly feel like something within me is suited to this shit and to not go would just be a failure on my part"
},
{
"poster": 194069,
"content": ">>194044 yeah there was a time when I'd go over to my friends place and ring the doorbell until he woke up then carpool from there. some people just refuse to set alarms on the weekend >>194046 you're not even working your muscles the tiniest bit. try something other than jugs the next time larper"
},
{
"poster": 194073,
"content": ">>194069 your skin’s going to be the limiting factor if you’re not a punter"
},
{
"poster": 194080,
"content": ">>194073 Nah. You can strap your skin."
},
{
"poster": 194149,
"content": ">>194080 and if you’re not a punter, that renders hard sends impossible"
},
{
"poster": 194166,
"content": ">>191083 How is that even possible? I was thinking about this as well. She seems to not climb that hard despite having world class coaches for years on end, but 12 years and stuck at v5?? I think there's too many people who pretend climbing is purely a technique based sport, when it's obviously highly physical and pulling hard is its own technique. At some point if you want to climb hard, you're going to need to be able to do 1 arm pull ups, hang 160%+ of your bodyweight on a 20 mm edge, be low bodyfat, etc"
},
{
"poster": 194167,
"content": ">>194003 >you're not gonna get rhabdo from climbing desu I'm less worried about rhabdo specifically and more worried about the same tendencies which led to rhabdo leading to over-training in a way that causes some kind of slow-healing joint injury. >>194006 Any tips on warmups? What's the deal with hangboards? I used to do fingertip pullups on door frames back in the day and while I don't think I can do that anymore (I don't have good door frames in this house to test) I would like to be able to train at home. >>194032 >I recommend once every third or fourth day Once I sign up I have access to the climbing gym on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday. They have lifting and calisthenics areas and I can hang out and do multiple sessions of whatever pretty much all day (as long as I make time to rest and eat while spending a few dispersed hours at my laptop). Would you recommend working up to a certain standard before spending money on a gym I won't be able to fully utilize?"
},
{
"poster": 194168,
"content": ">>194167 1. Cardio (2-5 mins) 2. Dynamic stretching (5 mins) 3. Progressive Climbing (10-20 mins) Aka climbing V0s before you try something difficult."
},
{
"poster": 194183,
"content": ">>194073 outdoors yes, gym no. been climbing for less than 2 years and the toughness of my finger skin coupled with chalk application every send makes my finger skin invincible compared to the stamina of my fingers and sometimes forearms. can slip off plastic slopers a dozen times and my skin's still ready to go. >>194166 she did the 9c test and scored way above her actual grade. some people just don't try as hard and or never get over the innate fears involved >>194167 >warmups what >>194168 said but add whatever you find necessary. ie. hurting shoulders? do the Hooper's beta shoulder warmup with a stretch band >hangboards worth getting one at home but your gym will have several. best thing for beginners to do is nohangs of various grip types (info all over the internet on this). best part is that beginners can do it regularly, and obviously more advanced climbers use the shallower holds in various ways >working up to a certain standard... you'll be getting value immediately, no reason to hold off. I'm assuming you can do at least 5 normal pullups, but if not, the other workout equipment makes the membership worth your money. just give yourself rest if and when something feels bad"
},
{
"poster": 194198,
"content": ">>194183 well if you’re not a punter, you’ll be climbing predominantly outdoors this time of year"
},
{
"poster": 194201,
"content": "My current climbing shoes have only lasted 3 months I cant be accused of slacking"
},
{
"poster": 194202,
"content": ">>194201 how do you determine whether a climbing shoe is still good or not?"
},
{
"poster": 194204,
"content": ">>194202 my big toe is about to stick out"
},
{
"poster": 194213,
"content": ">>194044 climbing partners try not to quit challenge (difficulty IMPOSSIBLE) climbing partners try to be consistent challenge (difficulty IMPOSSIBLE) All of my non-climbing friends who got me started climbing have quit, and I'm still going. At least the friends I've made at the gym are consistent-- don't think they've missed a single day without giving me like a week prior notice that they're going on vacation or something."
},
{
"poster": 194220,
"content": ">>194201 are you sure you're not just wearing them out with bad footwork?"
},
{
"poster": 194230,
"content": ">>194198 You know absolutely nothing of climate, geography and seasons. Learn another word you fruit tart"
},
{
"poster": 194239,
"content": ">>194220 Dunno maybe a bit I do go 4 times a week, and my gym has rough walls that are good for smearing"
},
{
"poster": 194240,
"content": ">>194230 spoken like a true plastic-fondling punter"
},
{
"poster": 194257,
"content": "I really enjoyed bouldering today"
},
{
"poster": 194309,
"content": ">>194201 You could be accused of bad footwork."
},
{
"poster": 194346,
"content": ">>194309 Elaborate fuckhead Should I just avoid smearing?"
},
{
"poster": 194351,
"content": ">>194346 No, avoid dragging your toe, practice by using the quiet feet technique."
},
{
"poster": 194354,
"content": ">>194351 toe dragging is pretty fundamental to maintain a 3rd point of contact"
},
{
"poster": 194355,
"content": ">>194354 Practice quiet feet anon, stop prematurely wearing out your shoes. This is a real thing you should work on we're not just giving you shit."
},
{
"poster": 194356,
"content": ">>194354 fucking what? please use your brain, retard. watch some good climbers and see how often they grate their foot across the wall (spoiler: it's never)"
},
{
"poster": 194379,
"content": ">>194356 fuck off you insufferable climboid cunt"
},
{
"poster": 194381,
"content": ">>194379 What the hell’s wrong witchu? Toe dragging is a bad habit that only destroys your shoes. Get a grip, accept that you’re not as good as you think you are, and work on improving yourself. No bitch to me."
},
{
"poster": 194395,
"content": ">>194356 I do this on slabs sometimes. Is it better to tap the foot up?"
},
{
"poster": 194402,
"content": ">>194395 you should place with precision. I can think of examples where you'd be working your way up / across a volume and you want to \"bump\" your foot across it half a dozen times, but with smearing on an actual slab wall you'll be picking it up and then placing your foot 99% of the time. If your foot is gaining elevation while smearing on slab, you can't apply any meaningful pressure through it when you're moving it up anyway. the only time I would let my foot drag downwards while smearing is immediately after a sketchy catch, and even then I'm hoping the smear sticks immediately instead of dragging any distance."
},
{
"poster": 194403,
"content": ">>194402 for clarification, I mean >but with smearing on an actual slab wall you'll be picking it up and then placing your foot ONCE (not micro-bumping)"
},
{
"poster": 194455,
"content": ">>190595 reel rock seems so gay, and my local is selling tickets for like 30 bucks or something insane like that. are they worth seeing?"
},
{
"poster": 194500,
"content": ">>194455 is it part of the tour? last year I saw Seb Bouin. not at the actual showing but the day before at a climbing gym. idk who is showing this year but that might be cool."
},
{
"poster": 194522,
"content": ">>192549 oh shit, just saw this. Take a polishing wheel and an angle grinder to your local problems. Then take a hot, greasy pizza (preferably greek,) and slather that all over the wall. Make sure every decent feature is nice and greased up. That's how you prep for Pway. Everything is heavily trafficked, granite boulders. Quartz crystals long broken off in favor of the rock underneath. Credit card crimps on slopers, body positioning, and a whole lot of nerve. Fuckin great boulders tho"
},
{
"poster": 194643,
"content": "Topped over twenty routes today at a centre I don't go to much Good, manic fun"
},
{
"poster": 194652,
"content": "A bunch of fatty-positive “fit”fluencers have discovered climbing and now a bunch of landwhales are already taking up tripe the space in an already overcrowded gym system filled with faggy techbros and mediocre women interminably plateauing at very soft V4s"
},
{
"poster": 194658,
"content": ">>194652 if only there was an easy way to avoid all of those people..."
},
{
"poster": 194663,
"content": "I need some motivation or insults. Not the first time here, but I am once again extremely frustrated at not only being more or less stuck at v2/v3 limbo but also I've learned the extremely fun fact I am terrified of moving horizontally over the wall once I am a couple meters off the ground. Which is dumb when I don't seem to have the same problem with vertical movement on a higher wall but the moment I am standing relatively up and have to do something sideways that looks like it has even a remote chance of me falling I just freeze and bail. Getting real frustrated at this shit, already complely over my original goal even"
},
{
"poster": 194683,
"content": ">>194658 the fags at my crags are worse than the spindly losers at my gyms, though I recognize I live in an abnormal town >>194663 bouldering I presume. bit of a niched-in fear, no? have you tried horizontal movement (any holds, don't stick to the route) when you're way up on an toprope / autobelay? have you actually practiced good landing form when you're dynoing (and miss) with horizontal momentum while bouldering? you can surely try this out at just a few ft of height, no? you need to work on things to get over your fears, pussy."
},
{
"poster": 194684,
"content": ">>194663 Practice falling until you're good at it and it's boring."
},
{
"poster": 194715,
"content": ">>194684 But how am I supposed to practice slipping my foot, smashing my knee against a hold, and hitting my head on the wall?"
},
{
"poster": 194720,
"content": ">>194715 Based on your posts I have complete faith that you are retarded enough to find a way."
},
{
"poster": 194726,
"content": ">>194715 Practice slipping your foot and then not doing those other two things. Alternatively, >>194720"
},
{
"poster": 194727,
"content": "Burden just got -2 sends. How the fuck they missed that someone had placed stones to raise the base for easier first move. Considering it's pretty much the crux, there's no argument that \"it doesn't matter\"."
},
{
"poster": 194732,
"content": ">>194727 They could not have missed that they’re at least a couple dozen centimetres higher from the ground than intended. You’d expect elite-lever climbers like them to have more integrity or at the very least be more transparent about these shenanigans. Lorenzi is almost 10 cm shorter than Bosi but his arms aren’t even nearly as extended. And what the fuck is up with the latest guy? Might as well bring a folding chair and sit start off of that."
},
{
"poster": 194762,
"content": ">>194727 So did Aiden Roberts cheat?"
},
{
"poster": 194764,
"content": ">>194762 He hasn’t sent it, and as you can see from the picture, his arms are extended as they should be."
},
{
"poster": 194767,
"content": ">>194764 No idea Roberts was in the pic. I just read he was out there now so figured the post was talking about him. Don’t know who the other two gumbies are to the left of will (since aiden is to his right)"
},
{
"poster": 194768,
"content": ">>194727 Kek you can see Elias’ reddit account attacking someone else who holds your view https://www.reddit.com/r/climbing/c omments/1bnxhq4/elias_iagnemma_send s_burden_of_dreams_v179a/"
},
{
"poster": 194769,
"content": ">>194767 No biggie. The leftmost gumby is Simon Lorenzi and the other one is Elias Iagnemma."
},
{
"poster": 194770,
"content": "did my first 7a today am I a big boy now?"
},
{
"poster": 194771,
"content": ">>194770 grats, indoor or outdoor?"
},
{
"poster": 194782,
"content": ">>194771 Indoor, wish it was outdoor but it's hard to find people to climb with. I can barely even find anyone to belay on lead indoors."
},
{
"poster": 194824,
"content": ">>189862 If anyone is even here... can anyone tell me about climbing mountains like Mount Rainier, or Mount Washington, etc?"
},
{
"poster": 194846,
"content": ">>194824 >Mount Rainier (/reJˈnJər/ ray-NEER), also known as Tahoma, is a large active stratovolcano in the Cascade Range of the Pacific Northwest in the United States. The mountain is located in Mount Rainier National Park about 59 miles (95 km) south-southeast of Seattle.[3] With a summit elevation of 14,411 ft (4,392 m),[4][5] it is the highest mountain in the U.S. state of Washington, the most topographically prominent mountain in the contiguous United States,[6] and the tallest in the Cascade Volcanic Arc. >Mount Washington, also known as Agiocochook,[4] is an ultra-prominent mountain in the state of New Hampshire. It is the highest peak in the Northeastern United States at 6,288.2 ft (1,916.6 m) and the most topographically prominent mountain east of the Mississippi River."
},
{
"poster": 194848,
"content": "fuck fuck fuck fuck ive definitely damaged a pulley or tendon in my middle finger, not sure if i should keep climbing while trying some rehabs or take a week off, does emil's hangboarding routine work well as a rehab or should i try something else? god dammit just when when the climbing season started too :((((((("
},
{
"poster": 194888,
"content": ">>194848 this video will be worth your time. you shouldn't be doing anything at all for the next week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ax N5HyBLfM"
},
{
"poster": 194929,
"content": ">>190010 >>189933 >>189923 Sandpaper off the calluses and you won't get flappers"
},
{
"poster": 194930,
"content": ">>194848 I'm in the same boat brother LMK if you find out anything"
},
{
"poster": 194931,
"content": "Is jap gyms being graded tough a meme? The 6b+ in the new PewDiePie video look very doable for a noob"
},
{
"poster": 194932,
"content": ">>194931 I dunno but I heard that gyms in East Asia are generally very new school so it might be the case that just comparing grades doesn’t make sense."
},
{
"poster": 194959,
"content": "How much do climbing irl coaches charge?"
},
{
"poster": 194976,
"content": ">>194959 about tree fiddy"
},
{
"poster": 195085,
"content": ">start going to the bouldering gym >it's fun >back in february get my right shoulder dislocated during a fall, wasn't even a big fall. But I had the same shoulder dislocated in a kayak episode last august, so it may have been weak still. >a few days ago, go to the gym again for the first time since the injury >20 minutes into the session I dislocate the left shoulder (never had that one injured before) >this happened during a descent where I was tired and trying to climb down fast, my body got a swing around while I was holding a grip with the left hand, and that's all I remember can anyone relate? I'm definitively out of the game for a while now, if not for good. plan is to train the stabilizer muscles in both shoulders, after that maybe try rope climbing, or bouldering again, but only doing 2/3 and then jumping so I can land on the feet."
},
{
"poster": 195087,
"content": ">>195085 >can anyone relate? no. if this happened to me I would never boulder again, or at least not for years until I knew for certain that rehab+strengthening exercises had fixed the root issue. rope climbing should be fine once you heal, but even then you're going to want strengthening work just so that climbing itself doesn't injure your shoulders (which is relatively common even in individuals without pre-existing shoulder problems). and if you're going to lead climb, you absolutely need to use a stick clip."
},
{
"poster": 195091,
"content": ">>195085 I'd tell you to learn to fall but I think you actually shouldn't fall at all anymore."
},
{
"poster": 195092,
"content": ">>195085 Tons of MP threads on this. TL;DR do physiotherapy and you'll be fine. Unless you've torn your labrum or whatever. https://www.mountainproject.com/for um/topic/123308485/shoulder-injury- while-climbing https://www.mountainproject.com/for um/topic/114276664/dislocated-shoul er-and-the-necessity-for-surgery https://www.mountainproject.com/for um/topic/124355024/climbing-after-s houlder-dislocation"
},
{
"poster": 195095,
"content": ">>195092 >torn your labrum My friend did this and I entertained myself by poking the general area of his injury while declaring I was fingering his shoulder labia."
},
{
"poster": 195105,
"content": "Last 2 sessions have been phenomenal lads, feels really good. sending routes with brutal crimps I wouldn't have dreamed of sending just a few months ago"
},
{
"poster": 195107,
"content": "Going to squamish soon, anyone got that squamish bouldering ebook?"
},
{
"poster": 195113,
"content": ">>195105 What grade? How long you been climbing?"
},
{
"poster": 195140,
"content": "I am a complete loser and just as I was going to move near Yosemite and be a climbing bum I got a girlfriend in this city. What do I do anons? Climbing or pussy? And I also have a productive request. Strong climbers train. I assume their weeks and days are structured in some way. What do your weeks look like, anon? What's your favorite resource on how to train, how to structure everything, etc? What does an ideal gym session look like? Is it really all just finger strength and technique?"
},
{
"poster": 195152,
"content": ">gym is totally infested with lefty/trannyism >I'm one of many who have plateau'd at V4/V5 level >just want to get to a respectable level and send impressive grades"
},
{
"poster": 195153,
"content": ">>195152 respectable grades and impressive sends are outside, lefties and trannies are not outside, why are you still in the gym?"
},
{
"poster": 195161,
"content": ">>195113 V2 and 5.9. Three years"
},
{
"poster": 195167,
"content": ">>195113 bad perspective brah. how rewarding a breakthrough is at v5 versus v10 only matters if you aren't enjoying climbing itself. >>195161 kek >>195140 you chose one of the worst places to ask. do you think many people here actually \"train\"? do research. >>195152 are you measuring your metrics a few times a year (max hangs, max weighted pullup, etc.? have you filmed yourself on a board problem, then filmed again on the same problem months later to compare? you're responsible for finding your personal bottlenecks (unless you want to pay for a coach)."
},
{
"poster": 195171,
"content": "someone near me is selling an ocun incubator for like 250 bucks, does anyone have any experience with the pad? seems like an absolute steal but not sure how hard it would be to carry two pads with it"
},
{
"poster": 195176,
"content": ">>195140 >Climbing or pussy? If she's just pussy to you go climbing. Building a future with a wife is based but wasting time, energy, and opportunities on whores is cringe. It's easy enough to find wet holes with a climber's physique, don't derail your life for a temporary cocksleeve."
},
{
"poster": 195205,
"content": ">>195152 >impressive who are you trying to impress"
},
{
"poster": 195225,
"content": "Does anyone have any idea if this is just a sole repair or if I need a toe rand as well?"
},
{
"poster": 195253,
"content": ">>195140 I read the rock climbers training manual (RCTM), followed by logical progression (LP). I am doing the LP basic nonlinear program and seeing good gains. No, I train mental aspect as well. I read the rock warriors way and have yet to read vertical mind and mastermind. I also read 9 out of 10 climbers. Also, there is tactics, such as redpoint tactics and strategy which is covered at the end of the RCTM. For skill development I record myself using a tripod and OnForm, and try to read and do skills drills from the Self Coached Climber. I also like some podcasts like the training beta, the power company, some of the struggle depending on the guest. And YouTube channels like ClimbStrong, Dave McLeod etc. This is just for indoors. For outdoors stuff like trad, multipitch etc there are a lot more books and websites I read and listen to."
},
{
"poster": 195254,
"content": ">>195225 Probably yes but it depends. Is the toe area “squishy” or soft compared to a new shoe? In that case you’ve worn through some or most of the rand and need a rand repair. But you might be able to call the shop and ask them not to do the rand repair if you don’t want it. Just know that if you do that you might blow throw the rand before you wear out the new sole. Also most shops have the option for “let us decide if it needs a rand repair” and I usually go with that"
},
{
"poster": 195269,
"content": "How can one man be so based?"
},
{
"poster": 195271,
"content": ">>195269 I agree Dave is amazing but.. He’s starting to shill magnus meatball. Which worries me. The magnus guy is decidedly not based, just super mega money whore"
},
{
"poster": 195282,
"content": ">>195271 What's wrong with making a living while promoting the sport? Has Magnus done something unethical that I'm not aware of?"
},
{
"poster": 195299,
"content": "bros, I've come to the realization that the campus board is the stupidest fucking thing in every gym. it's COMPLETELY USELESS for your climbing ability when compared to just climbing on moon/kilter/tension board. the only exception is party-trick gym boulder problems with big, forced, successive campus moves that you would never once encounter during a lifetime of climbing outdoors. these party-trick gym boulders are stupid and not worth anyone's time. you could argue that the campus board is still a good tool for occasionally testing yourself, but I disagree. 1-4-7/1-5-8/1-5-9 are all extremely crude metrics and there are a dozen more-precise ways for climbers to test their metrics. these rungs being in every gym is the biggest meme in climbing."
},
{
"poster": 195301,
"content": ">>195269 His interview with Neil Gresham is damned good. Highly recommend everyone to watch it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2w gXc_blao >>195271 The new video they did in the mountains is really good though. Projecting in wind strong enough to literally flip a lorry to its side."
},
{
"poster": 195312,
"content": ">>195282 Shilling your overpriced inferior or same as products to normies is cringe. Doing things for money not because you love it is cringe. Magnus has admitted he’s a whore for views. I don’t have anything against Dave just worried he might get caught up with the Magnus stuff and start shilling his products which IMO are AG1 tier"
},
{
"poster": 195313,
"content": ">>195301 His training for bouldering and hangboarding videos are also really good fyi. Highly recommend 9/10 climbers as well"
},
{
"poster": 195364,
"content": "Gunna be a bunch of dorks climbing cause of that pewdipie video. Although he is much funnier than I thought, and climbing along the river in the japanese mountains looks enchanting"
},
{
"poster": 195388,
"content": ">>195364 >Gunna be a bunch of dorks climbing cause of that pewdipie video. Anon, is your gym really not filled with a bunch of dorks? It has the biggest dorks of any place I've been. Has cool people too though."
},
{
"poster": 195392,
"content": ">>195388 my gym is 80% dyel asians, lesbians and other unlikable faggots. then 15% are annoyingly meek white guys who walk away within a minute when you try to talk to them, so only 1 in 20 or so are actually interesting people to talk to. also, pretty big difference between the insufferable software faggot dorks and your average youtube-watching dork."
},
{
"poster": 195413,
"content": ">>195392 This is what's been keeping me out of the climbing gym and outside climbing trees and big rocks instead, anytime I go in to check one out it's staffed and attended by some of the most actively unlikable people I've encountered anywhere. >also, pretty big difference between the insufferable software faggot dorks and your average youtube-watching dork. The former is a subset of the latter. YouTube dorks are a pretty diverse demographic."
},
{
"poster": 195445,
"content": ">>195392 Probably the people walking away within 1 minute are doing a timed workout or trying to stick to a training schedule and have better things to do than talk to you anon"
},
{
"poster": 195456,
"content": ">>195392 >why isn't this random dude talking with me for more than a minute you are out of touch with reality"
},
{
"poster": 195458,
"content": ">>195392 Sure we can chat, but on my list of priorities for the session, talking to some rando is quite a few rungs below climbing."
},
{
"poster": 195459,
"content": ">>195152 >38 year old construction worker >come from an environment where everyone says what they think straight without a modern political bullshit filter >everytime someone says anything to me it feels like I'm standing on a fucking minefield Been close a few times but it's only a matter of time and to be honest, it'll be really hard to resist slapping some sense into a screaming leftie."
},
{
"poster": 195470,
"content": ">>195456 >>195445 >>195458 they're usually projecting 5.10b on autobelay with no friends in the gym. sounds like you 4cdn.org shut-ins have trouble in social settings (real shocker)"
},
{
"poster": 195477,
"content": ">>195470 Sounds like you're the one having trouble in social settings if you're consistently getting the cold shoulder from complete gumbies with no friends."
},
{
"poster": 195499,
"content": ">>195470 I guess some people see the gym for socializing and others see it for training. Those people probably see it for training. It’d be like if someone was squatting at the gym and you randomly come up to them and start making small talk. They came to workout not to chat with some guy they’ll never see again. Doing aerobic training or skill drills on autobelay is legit. Also just my controversial opinion but doing toprope or lead climbing at a commercial gym is kinda a waste of time if you’re looking to train. If you’re doing it for the social aspect good on you though. It was actually Matty Hong the groomer who mentioned it on a podcast and I tend to agree with him"
},
{
"poster": 195501,
"content": ">>195499 Matty Hong fucking sucks"
},
{
"poster": 195503,
"content": ">>195501 Because of him being a groomer or because he is a middling climber? I like his films and think his opinion to not rope climb in a gym is good"
},
{
"poster": 195508,
"content": ">>192098 >dry Were you climbing in Yosemite after a rain storm?"
},
{
"poster": 195536,
"content": "sometimes I feel like climbing is becoming a chore and I feel like everything is too easy or too hard, but then I get completely revitalised by a route reset and look forward to it again also, going to different gyms helps"
},
{
"poster": 195537,
"content": "One whole year of bouldering (so nothing) has made me lean, itchy (from sweat rashes), with plenty of grazed skin that doesn't seem to heal"
},
{
"poster": 195545,
"content": ">>195503 Middling climber who similarly makes mid films that only retards enjoy since they are easily impressed with shitty editing and filmmaking as long as there are random sequences of cuts of nature."
},
{
"poster": 195546,
"content": ">>195545 He's sent 9b and 8C."
},
{
"poster": 195548,
"content": ">>195545 Are you cool with him fucking Margo and now Angie though? Seems pretty based to be getting that 19 y.o. pussy"
},
{
"poster": 195562,
"content": ">>195503 >>195499 Same shit opinion as following some kind of fad diet or training plan. It may work for some retard who has no life and lives under a cliff and climbs with another aspie who also has no life. But for everyone else gym is fine and will be enough for their needs"
},
{
"poster": 195564,
"content": ">>195548 I don’t follow nor give a fuck about female climbers. They ruin the crag and gyms"
},
{
"poster": 195565,
"content": ">>195562 The comment is that roped climbing at a gym is a waste of time, not climbing at a gym in general. Bouldering is more time efficient and will get you stronger and more powerful than doing laps on top rope or lead at a gym. You are spending roughly 50% of the time belaying when doing roped climbs, and the majority of the moves are “junk moves” not really training much except endurance or power endurance, both of which can be trained more targeted using a different method"
},
{
"poster": 195595,
"content": ">>195565 >and the majority of the moves are “junk moves” ahahaha knew you fucking faggots fit the description of shy loner projecting 10b on autobelay. if you're going to insist on being retarded you will never be a good climber."
},
{
"poster": 195640,
"content": ">>195565 I don’t know why people insist on hacking training. It’s the same thing with spending a decent time on fingerboarding or doing finger pulls. Sure it will help but why don’t you just climb something hard enough that your fingers literally on the verge of barely holding the holds and train more than one thing at once? I don’t know the exact advice but if it’s replace gym rope endurance/power endurance with some other type of training it boggles my mind anyone not in top 1% thinks this is a great use of their time. I think if people like professional runners, cyclists and other individual sports athletes do their specific sport training for 80-90% of their training time. Why a gumby climber should spend less? >You are spending roughly 50% of the time belaying when doing roped climbs Implying you don’t sit around 50% or more time when bouldering"
},
{
"poster": 195657,
"content": "I am in love with bouldering If I had started ten years ago I would be fucking elite now It's a shame I fell for the it's Reddit meme I still have a chance to be quite good, but ill never be the climber I should be"
},
{
"poster": 195659,
"content": ">>195657 everyone thinks like this and its not worth spending your brain power on, just fucking climb, theres so much more to climbing than chasing a number anyways"
},
{
"poster": 195669,
"content": ">>195657 It only became reddit like three years ago bro when a bunch loser techbros got bullied out of the cycling profession because they found out that spending $10K on a carbon bike will not make them good"
},
{
"poster": 195672,
"content": ">>195299 I agree, but it is very fun."
},
{
"poster": 195679,
"content": ">>195640 You can and should do endurance or power endurance training by climbing, it’s just more efficient to be able to do it on a traverse wall/tread wall/spray wall, doing 4x4 boulders etc. Rather than belay your buddy on roped climbs. You can design the problem or route to be exactly how you want it on a spray wall, whereas on a gym lead climb you’re at the mercy of the setters. When you’re “sitting around” during a bouldering session you’re wasting your time. You should be stretching, watching other climbers, or watching your attempt you recorded with your phone and critiquing your beta and telling yourself how you’ll improve it next time. >>195595 You are retarded. Good luck"
},
{
"poster": 195680,
"content": ">>195640 >>195679 I also forgot to add with doing workouts by yourself you control the work-recovery ratio, not your partner"
},
{
"poster": 195684,
"content": ">>195679 >or watching your attempt you recorded with your phone You’re a homo KWAB"
},
{
"poster": 195685,
"content": ">>195684 I feel like I struck a nerve but I’m just speaking the truth. Climbers who want to improve aim for better body awareness of what they were doing on their last attempt/when they fell, and recording is a great way to help build that awareness. You can’t improve technique if you just go up to the boulder and flounder on it 10x then on your 11th attempt you send it through pure strength and power but you’re clawing your way up the wall"
},
{
"poster": 195686,
"content": ">>195669 >It only became reddit like three years ago bro not that anon, but about ten to twelve years ago a techbro friend tried to get me into his climbing gym and it was pretty Reddit back then, too."
},
{
"poster": 195704,
"content": ">why yes, i do buy used and fuzzy soft goods, how could you tell?"
},
{
"poster": 195721,
"content": ">>195679 >leddit spacing >spews youtuber nonsense >in the year of our Lord 2024 he cannot conceive of a better rebuttal than \"no you\" lurk 2 more years and then go back you tremendous boy-molesting fruit"
},
{
"poster": 195739,
"content": ">>195721 Whatever, just tried to help your training. Have fun toproping in the gym and not improving The leddit spacing has been deboonked, if you haven’t seen the image explaining it. The guy (maybe you) is misrepresenting what I’m saying and using as hominem, there’s no point in debating that"
},
{
"poster": 195753,
"content": "If you really want to improve your climbing, you shouldn't be wasting your time climbing; you should be doing max hangs from heinous 20mm edges."
},
{
"poster": 195756,
"content": ">>195753 Based hangmaxxer, climbing is for fags and people who suck at climbing"
},
{
"poster": 195758,
"content": ">>195704 >buy ancient cams for cheap >resling with accessory cord >profit(?) also I bought a used rope with no tag and it's still going strong several years later. no idea how old it is."
},
{
"poster": 195760,
"content": ">>195758 Damn, those look retro, are they from the 90s? How much do they weigh compared to modern friends, for example?"
},
{
"poster": 195820,
"content": "based based based i bought some used aid gear and the guy just gave me a bunch of other free shit that he wasnt using god i love aid climbers"
},
{
"poster": 195840,
"content": ">>195758 >NOOOOOOOOOO HowNot2 did a video saying they only held 9.85kN instead of 10 you can't do that!!!!!"
},
{
"poster": 195842,
"content": ">>195301 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2 wgXc_blao hey that's my gym"
},
{
"poster": 195850,
"content": "What's the best option for training fingers at home if I don't want to drill a hangboard on the wall?"
},
{
"poster": 195851,
"content": ">>195850 hang on the doorframe"
},
{
"poster": 195909,
"content": ">>195739 toprope? lmao. please touch outdoor rock >>195753 don't know why 20mm was ever accepted as the personal-metrics standard when ~10-14mm is far more common on challenging routes (if you aren't sending these, why bother with analyzing your metrics?). full pad is a luxury that you really don't often get at the crag on quality routes. if you're testing just to compare yourself against a database, then sure I get it, but most test just to compare against their previous bests."
},
{
"poster": 195943,
"content": "Why do american gyms have such soft grades? Is it because americans are generally less fit?"
},
{
"poster": 195944,
"content": ">>195909 Because there’s been studies showing you gain more finger strength that’s translatable to edges of all sizes if you hang with more weight on a bigger edge than using less weight on a smaller edge. At a certain point the small edge size becomes much more skin/friction dependent. Learn how to listen to podcasts, YouTube videos and read climbing studies anon"
},
{
"poster": 195945,
"content": ">>195943 Because making people feel like they’re better than they are will keep them coming back to the gym. Especially newbies or people who just climb “for fun” instead of train or trying to get better. Gym owners only care about making money"
},
{
"poster": 195966,
"content": ">>195944 >Because there’s been studies showing you gain more finger strength that’s translatable to edges of all sizes if you hang with more weight on a bigger edge than using less weight on a smaller edge. Sauce?"
},
{
"poster": 195968,
"content": ">>195760 I believe they are from the 90s, yes. I have no idea about the weight... they're pretty hefty I guess. I left one on the wall a couple days ago so if you're in red rock you can go check it out for yourself."
},
{
"poster": 196017,
"content": ">>195944 holy lul. you really think top ifsc athletes are regularly weighting up on 20mm? >hurrr I've listened to climbing podcasts featuring mediocre climbers so I now know everything about how the professionals train newsflash, there are virtually no comprehensive, meaningful, widely-accepted climbing studies. Lattice Training is leading the way for compiling a database of climber metrics, and yet no one on the original team had any credentials AND they're yet to publish any research of substance."
},
{
"poster": 196039,
"content": ">>195944 You're confusing the transferability of grip types with edge size (train just a few essential grip types -> most all climbing grip types benefit from the training). Not so with edge size, if you want to pull on 6mm for more than a second, all the weighted-full-pad training in the world isn't going to get you there"
},
{
"poster": 196069,
"content": ">>195944 >Learn how to listen to podcasts, YouTube videos and read climbing studies anon No fucking way anyone would earnestly say this"
},
{
"poster": 196126,
"content": ">>195943 get's people interested in climbing faster when they think they're progressing from V1-V4 at a rate of a new grade each month or two and then hit the noob wall and decide to stop going or just stick with it. It's a lot more motivating than climbing on real grades and being stuck at V2 for 6 months. climbing gyms can probably expect anyone who's bought a membership to stick with it for at least 6 months to a year before quitting which helps with projecting incomes"
},
{
"poster": 196230,
"content": "new thread time? why wait til page 10 on a dead board like this?"
},
{
"poster": 196235,
"content": ">>196230 can the next thread have an outdoor picture for spring"
},
{
"poster": 196241,
"content": ">plateaud at 20mm max hang for approaching a month >Progressed at ~24mm (not beastmaker some weird rogue board) edge by like 20% over a couple of weeks since then >still plateauing at 20mm Pissing me off. I find this shit so temperamental and I don't progress linearly"
},
{
"poster": 196274,
"content": ">>196230 it's confusing to have multiple live threads at once and pollutes the board. if a new thread was made each time we hit the bump limit there would be like 5 /cg/ threads right now."
},
{
"poster": 196282,
"content": ">>196241 >approaching a month is that really a plateau? >I find this shit so temperamental and I don't progress linearly that just isn't at all how actual climbing progression works. the only time you should be seeing relatively linear progression in climbing is between sessions on routes you're projecting. you should be more concerned with your sends than your metrics. that said, if all you cared about was upping your 20mm max hang, you could probably be training it more efficiently (I don't recommend it but you could do a higher volume of sets of x reps with 70% of your max for example) >>196274 fault of the board for having 10 pages instead of 5."
},
{
"poster": 196287,
"content": "I love my slightly disrupted achy nights sleep, unironically. This shit is like a drug"
},
{
"poster": 196288,
"content": ">>196282 >is that really a plateau? maybe not but does feel a bit like one as only been hangboarding 8 months (I'm at like 130% bw). I'll just keep doing it and not stress >higher volume of sets of x reps with 70% of your max for example nah fuck that not my bag"
},
{
"poster": 196298,
"content": ">>196230 >>196235 new bread: >>196297"
}
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{
"poster": 190731,
"content": "Is this legit?"
},
{
"poster": 190739,
"content": ">>190731 That's just pushing suddenly & hard. No. That's literally not how biomechanics or physics work. 90% of kung fu is bullshit. Only the hard styles deserve any respect. Sanda is the only thing really worth it. Maybe Shaolin, just for its conditioning, but thats a stretch. Everything else is total bullshit."
},
{
"poster": 190741,
"content": ">>190739 It's a jap movie."
},
{
"poster": 190742,
"content": ">>190731 To some degree. That's the Bruce Lee's 1 inch punch."
},
{
"poster": 190753,
"content": "that guy is a former japanese military guy (i know its not \"really\" an army, but you get the idea), he studied aikido and silat and now goes to some small youtube shows to show his new martial art. I would say mcdojo, but at least he has real military training, knows a bit about knives etc. He seems nice and honest, tho."
},
{
"poster": 190758,
"content": ">>190753 Most of the truly awful shit anyone has ever witnessed has been actively taught in military academies. I care as much about their opinions on hand to hand as I do Ali's opinions on grenades."
},
{
"poster": 190775,
"content": ">>190739 Chinese jacket wrestling is good."
},
{
"poster": 190807,
"content": ">>190731 It is in the sense that having a lose back might help generate more power, but the amount is probably meaningless, the video is making it seem that is what's making the punch so strong, when in truth he's using his whole body. Basically >Instructors hate this ONE TRICK to PUNCH HARDER"
},
{
"poster": 190810,
"content": ">>190741 Mkay, not like theres a difference. Chink, jap, gook, it's all the fucking same shit. >>190758 Not true. Lots of military programs are fine, they're nothing more than the basics. The problem is faggots get out, call themselves martial artists, then grift by using their time in the service as their credentials, and proceed to sell all their bullshit ideas. Look at MCMAP or Line. It is all common sense basics of MMA. Just a lot of tards sell it as more than that."
},
{
"poster": 190814,
"content": ">>190731 It’s just the one inch punch. It’s a parlor trick more than an actual martial arts technique."
},
{
"poster": 190815,
"content": ">>190810 MCMAP teaches a lot of silly shit too. I had a friend who came out of boot camp thinking he could get out of a rear naked choke by grabbing some pressure/nerve point in my arm. Spoiler alert, it didn’t work."
},
{
"poster": 190818,
"content": ">>190815 Plot twist: it doesn't teach that..MCMAP is codified in manuals & what's in the manual is all it is. The grifting starts before they even get out & some fag instructors get their grift training in on wet behind the ears recruits. Serious. You can get the mcmap manual online. That's all the program ever was but some fag DI who has never seen combat gets put in charge & it's all downhill from there."
},
{
"poster": 190819,
"content": ">>190818 >>190815 Like most things in the military, it starts with a good idea, then FUBAR applications screws everything up."
},
{
"poster": 190820,
"content": ">>190818 >NO GUYS MCMAP IS GOOD TRUST ME BRO >ITS JUST ALL THE INSTRUCTORS ARE BAD Come on now, anon."
},
{
"poster": 191194,
"content": ">>190820 Uh, yeah, pretty much. The programs are developed by actual hand to hand experts, but because of fubar military regs, you only need 40 hours of training to reach black belt & take additional 15 day intensive course to become instructor certified. No surprise, 16 days & 16 hours is not long enough to have it mastered, let alone be able to teach it well. Then again it is basically an extremely stripped down boxing/karate/judo hybrid with some barebones weapons shit like bayonet & knife fighting thrown in."
},
{
"poster": 191205,
"content": ">>191194 >you only need 40 hours of training to make black belt Lmfao you have to be shitting me right? Years ago I knew a guy who bragged about his brown belt in MCMAP. My judo club offers 3 classes a week plus an hour of open mats on Saturday. If we only required 40 hours of training for black belt we’d be handing them out to people in less than 2 months. I didn’t even get my yellow belt until I was 3 months in."
},
{
"poster": 191207,
"content": ">>191205 Wish I was bud. Fact is, way the military works, they set an approximated $ cost on training & set progress standards around that. Works that way for basically everg type of progression in the military. Some branches are better than others. Army & Marines are the worst ironically, makes sense though, won't be surviving long. From what I've personally seen, Airforce & Navy is a toss up for who makes genuinely competent fighters. Basically boils down to more $ and higher standards. SEALs get pretty much as much H2H they could want/handle & H2H in the AF SERE program is surprisingly serious for so short a course. But their instructors are not D.I. like army & marines. Their whole job is SERE. Fucking forest ninjas basically."
},
{
"poster": 191484,
"content": ">>190742 Lee was a great bullshido practitioner"
},
{
"poster": 192520,
"content": ">>190731 exagerated, but there is some legitamcy to this. When I was training muay thai the instructor (former champion) really drilled us on who to punch, starting with feet, knees, hips, waiste, torso rotation, shoulders, elbows, fists. To demonstrate he \"punched\" me in the face with his shoulder, just his shoulder (feet up to shoulder, without arms - very close contact of course). I became a believer after that demo. Watch mma when they a clinched up against the fence and you will sometimes see should strike to the face."
},
{
"poster": 192522,
"content": ">>192520 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7c Gii5mf-8"
},
{
"poster": 192945,
"content": ">>190810 You're wrong about LINE. It's far removed from the MMA 101 shit they teach now and was much better suited for its intended purpose"
},
{
"poster": 192946,
"content": ">>192945 The only people who think line is good are boomers who learned it in the 80s but never actually had to test it against people who do actual combat sports"
},
{
"poster": 192962,
"content": ">>192946 Weird that you would attack a position that I didn't claim while knowing nothing about LINE and have doubtly ever competed in combat sports"
},
{
"poster": 193262,
"content": ">>191207 >H2H in the AF SERE program is surprisingly serious for so short a course. But their instructors are not D.I. like army & marines. Their whole job is SERE. Fucking forest ninjas basically. Can you tell me more about the SERE H2H instruction? I've never heard anybody talk about that part of the course before."
}
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{
"poster": 191222,
"content": "Old thread: >>189605"
},
{
"poster": 191223,
"content": "last time i skated to places in public on my day off, i was heckled by two different tradies in their pickups telling me to get a job and learn to change a car battery"
},
{
"poster": 191225,
"content": ">>191222 Gustav is so good also why is crailtap so scummy bros? the nine club episode with chico, he isnt afraid to go into detail like the younger pros that dont want to lose their jobs."
},
{
"poster": 191240,
"content": ">>191223 Ah man that's unfortunate. Perhaps they were jealous that you were freely enjoying your day off when they were working."
},
{
"poster": 191243,
"content": ">>191193 >>what if i Dude as someone who's barely lived in his body in his youth and have struggled with learning skating intuitively this is the trick for me. Hmm ok what if I try x, what if I try y, so much better than what I used to do(doing the exact same thing over and over again)"
},
{
"poster": 191256,
"content": ">>191223 You should have listened to them. I personally used to skateboard. I could do it all. I could stationary ollie more than a few inches even. Then one day THAT happened. Now I have a crippling fear of car batteries and 45 degree inclines. Quit now while you can."
},
{
"poster": 191279,
"content": ">>191225 I listened last night and got to him talking about why he left chocolate and had to stop. What was the crailtap stuff? Similar? Not a great look for girl/chocolate"
},
{
"poster": 191308,
"content": ">>191279 They cut his paychecks, then just stopped paying him here and there, all while not inviting him on any tours and trips. The ownership pretended not to know anything about it. Basically Mike Carroll has always been a fucking weirdo."
},
{
"poster": 191317,
"content": ">>191256 >Now I have a crippling fear of car batteries and 45 degree inclines Say no more anon, we can all guess what happened. I'm close to tears thinking about this, so fucking brutal. This is why I have pic related tattoo to keep me humble."
},
{
"poster": 191333,
"content": ">>191317 lmao what the"
},
{
"poster": 191349,
"content": "Niggas really saving pics of my tats for a meme I don't even skate anymore shits for losers quit now while your ahead There used to be cool people in skating these niggas look like bums now, what happened to the cool punk fits like ali boulala and duffel"
},
{
"poster": 191353,
"content": ">>191349 >ali boulala drug addict alcoholic loser who killed his friend, gave himself brain damage >duffel drug addict alcoholic loser who got brain damage from a dude weed guy"
},
{
"poster": 191354,
"content": ">>191353 oh yeah forgot to mention duffel was retarded enough to call stevie williams a ni*ger"
},
{
"poster": 191361,
"content": "I have had a long break once again. Month. At least. Loneliness and slight depression like always. Music is on depressive side of metal. I need videos that could get me motivated."
},
{
"poster": 191363,
"content": ">>191317 lmao"
},
{
"poster": 191364,
"content": ">>191349 >I don't even skate anymore don't post here anymore kook"
},
{
"poster": 191365,
"content": ">>191361 The best thing you could do is just go out and skate. Nothing is going to motivate you more than feeling your board again and remembering why you love it. If you really want videos though: https://youtu.be/Oh05eACp0ic?si=Qc6 uR89o7o6tV6Rh https://youtu.be/1Q9RWDr_MqE?si=YPy PE8GMnu3sCo8T https://youtu.be/AFcTaLQ4bys?si=dxj xnCLx3IZrNPgY https://youtu.be/JY8C1SV8zjI?si=8nb 6rKM3w586sFpg"
},
{
"poster": 191366,
"content": ">>191365 I guess I just need something to get my mind on it. For week or two I have thought that I want to get back on board but it hasn't been anything except moments thought that disappears immediately after."
},
{
"poster": 191367,
"content": ">>191364 I can do whatever the fuck I want skater fag you can't do shit"
},
{
"poster": 191368,
"content": ">>191361 I haven't left my room in a year since I got sober"
},
{
"poster": 191372,
"content": ">>191367 goober"
},
{
"poster": 191373,
"content": ">>191361 >Music is on depressive side of metal Your subconscious takes in this music on a level that your conscious brain does not comprehend and it reflects it in your attitudes and subconscious actions. Giving up shitty music is an easy way to help better yourself. For me it was gangster rap. You've been MK Ultra'd fren."
},
{
"poster": 191374,
"content": ">>191370 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kH QhwJfs0E Maybe I am just tired of winter."
},
{
"poster": 191375,
"content": ">>191374 Man those guys are such clowns"
},
{
"poster": 191376,
"content": ">>191374 This is corny as fuck. Why is Rick McCrank hosting it too lol"
},
{
"poster": 191377,
"content": ">>191375 >>191376 just some lads 'avin' a laff, innit"
},
{
"poster": 191382,
"content": ">>191377 lol Satan! Skulls! Are they 12?"
},
{
"poster": 191383,
"content": ">>191382 are not we all?"
},
{
"poster": 191385,
"content": ">>191383 I grew out of some things"
},
{
"poster": 191387,
"content": "could I get some thoughts on this skateboarding-themed song? >https://officialsecret.bandcamp.co m/track/benihana-beach It's supposed to express the zen feeling I get from skateboarding."
},
{
"poster": 191389,
"content": ">>191387 I need other anons to either like it or shit on it before I can decide if it's good or not."
},
{
"poster": 191400,
"content": ">>191389 Sounds like default settings"
},
{
"poster": 191408,
"content": ">>191387 very bad >skateboarding-themed song how so?"
},
{
"poster": 191412,
"content": ">>191403 I've seen someone hit their head just practicing slow moving flatground tricks once (then another time a kid tried to roll off a ledge). The only times I've hit my head it was from skating ramps in the early days and thankfully had my helmet on both times, though one of those times it was actually the helmet that caused me to bonk my head at all due to how much it stuck out. It's pretty unlikely you'll fall so badly that you'll hit your head just learning the basics, but you never know. You'll have all your worst falls early on. I'd 100% recommend wrist and elbow guards though. The first thing you'll naturally do is stick your hands out dead in front of you to stop yourself, and those impacts can be enough to break bones at worst and give nasty sprains at best. Kneepads might come in handy too but I tend not to fall to me knees when I'm not skating big transition."
},
{
"poster": 191419,
"content": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNs tlx3U8A4"
},
{
"poster": 191431,
"content": ">>191387 bro, this is terrible. I almost shattered my knee just listening to it."
},
{
"poster": 191435,
"content": ">>191408 The entirety of the drum layer is sounds made from riding my skateboard. There's also a rolling sound in there for ambience..."
},
{
"poster": 191436,
"content": ">>191431 That's cool, thanks for giving it a listen. Sorry about your knee."
},
{
"poster": 191439,
"content": ">>191387 Shit was ass little man"
},
{
"poster": 191443,
"content": ">>191439 Thanks, but I mean, I'm really trying to fix it, so if you could say what makes it ass? I could redo the mixing, change a beat, get rid of an instrument, whatever. I'll even redo the whole thing if I can get some reasoning to. should I just give up on music altogether?"
},
{
"poster": 191445,
"content": ">>191443 >>>/mu/"
},
{
"poster": 191450,
"content": ">>191445 thanks for this, but /mu/ has pretty shit taste and i'm trying to get some critiques from actual skaters, not some record-playing hipsters."
},
{
"poster": 191456,
"content": ">>191450 your trying to get critiques on your shit music that has nothing to do with skating >>>/trash/"
},
{
"poster": 191460,
"content": ">>191387 >https://officialsecret.bandcamp.co m/track/benihana-beach The drum beat and synth is really nice but your guitar playing is pretty off-time and your guitar is out of tune :p The song idea itself is good."
},
{
"poster": 191461,
"content": ">>191460 thank you I'll work on the guitar. It's something that's been bothering me too, i can't change the pitch without changing the damn speed in my daw, so I'll try re-recording it in both pitches."
},
{
"poster": 191462,
"content": ">>191461 >i can't change the pitch without changing the damn speed in my daw This is not true, you fucking suck. Go to /prod/, they might help you and you will at least be in the right thread."
},
{
"poster": 191466,
"content": ">45 posts >15 of them are off topic shit about this fags shitty music >third of the thread is not about skating this isnt even funny like the knee guy or car batteries this is just plain off topic nonsense that theres a whole board for"
},
{
"poster": 191468,
"content": "Idea to merge this gen with /rag/(rollerskating) when their thread hits bump limit. Both threads would get some crossover and it would centralize discussion but rag is very slow so it wouldn't overtake the skateboarding discussion."
},
{
"poster": 191471,
"content": ">>191466 >/esg/ is srs business All anyone does here is troll and gatekeep, anyway. I just gave you all a perfect reason to troll, you should be happy."
},
{
"poster": 191472,
"content": ">>191471 >I just gave you all a perfect reason to troll, you should be happy. nigga fuck outta here"
},
{
"poster": 191473,
"content": ">>191443 Your instruments sound very shallow, you need to work on giving them depth, idk how. The melody and what ever is fine but I think it sounds like a garage band song using default settings. Synth stuff was all analog and had a nice warmth to it. >>191419 This you? Sick skating >>191468 Fuck no"
},
{
"poster": 191474,
"content": ">>191468 That sounds like an awful idea"
},
{
"poster": 191475,
"content": ">>191468 let's brawl"
},
{
"poster": 191494,
"content": ">>191412 yea all my bad head hits have been bombing hills and losing control. i dont get how the pros bomb hills and fall and come out unscathed somehow that shit fucks me up the most"
},
{
"poster": 191542,
"content": ">>191494 I fucking hate hill bombing. It's by far the riskiest thing to do one your board with what seems to be the highest mortality rate, but even a \"small\" injury can mean a fucking skin graft. You have such little control of what happens to you. Big nope for me."
},
{
"poster": 191570,
"content": ">>191353 yeah, the whole 'pissdrunx' era of skateboarding was so lame, basically viva la bam for losers who weren't even smart enough to get rich off it."
},
{
"poster": 191571,
"content": "i personally recommend wearing a helmet if you ever broke your elbow or wrist. your mind will involuntarily try to save those during a slip out and end up causing a head hit"
},
{
"poster": 191583,
"content": ">>191570 Pissdrunx was based you faggot A lot of nerds scared to do drugs in this thread"
},
{
"poster": 191584,
"content": ">>191570 >viva la bam for losers viva la bam was already for kooks"
},
{
"poster": 191586,
"content": ">>191570 the pissdrunx era was a lot of fun but its a good thing that the culture moved beyond that. not everyone can party 24/7 and huck themselves down stair sets with a 12 pack in em and being able to do that shouldnt be glorified. i dont like viewing skaters as athletes but on the contrary acting like they're rock stars is cringe as hell. >>191583 oh look more shitty tattoos and retarded accusations/opinions. if you noticed everyone in the PD era who sobered up still has a career and will say ya those were fun times but they had to come to an end. almost everyone from that era ruined their career or almost ruined their career. >>191584 i watched an episode or two of viva la bam recently and damn is that shit hard to watch as an adult, I understood why my dad hated him he's literally just an insufferable asshole and the only funny parts were don vito being a drunk retard. wildboyz 4 lyfe"
},
{
"poster": 191595,
"content": "The guy above me is a faggot, skateboarders should be rockstars, partying in your 20s is based, viva la bam is based"
},
{
"poster": 191622,
"content": "What do you think of my ollie height"
},
{
"poster": 191628,
"content": ">>191622 looks really high"
},
{
"poster": 191638,
"content": ">>191628 Here's the full session 20:30 onwards Go watch it. Dont mind the rest of the vid https://youtu.be/EiZlI5EZNUE?t=1244"
},
{
"poster": 191646,
"content": ">>191595 Just quote and talk straight to him you absolute faggot. Shit opinions."
},
{
"poster": 191653,
"content": "The guy above me wants me to quote, what a loser"
},
{
"poster": 191654,
"content": ">>191653 >appealing to the crowd try harder"
},
{
"poster": 191659,
"content": "bros how does this happen. these are two different identical dents in my curb I recently relacquered. This has to be a scooter right? Its the only thing I can think of unless the fattest retard in the world is practicing 5-0 stalls on it. the curb is already crusty as fuck and chipped with the lacquer scraped off from when I first rub bricked it and lacquered it 4 years ago from what I can only assume were scooters. the curb is fucked, and Im not gonna make a new one in the same spot cause the same shit will happen which sucks cause its in an absolute perfect location in a town with a grocery store 2 liquor stores a smoke shop and once even a skate shop close by. now i gotta fuck off and find a hidden curb outta the way. >>191595 go ice your knee and change a car battery, you give off incredibly kooky vibes. if your idea of partying in your 20s is pissing your pants every night and doing pills and heroin you're a damn loser and thats coming from someone who has pissed the bed multiple times and done pills and heroin."
},
{
"poster": 191663,
"content": ">>191638 dude is that you, you fuckin rip and your english is money bro hit me with the backside flip"
},
{
"poster": 191670,
"content": ">>191638 killin' it dude. Those switch flips looked great"
},
{
"poster": 191671,
"content": ">>191659 Def looks like a scooter mark to me. The way they slap on to ledges all crooked. Looks like the exact angle."
},
{
"poster": 191684,
"content": ">>191659 Surely you can grind through that. As Ben Degros says, \"Don't be a baby\""
},
{
"poster": 191691,
"content": ">>191684 its deeper than it looks, im used to skating crusty shit I even filled in the cracks with wax all the way and was still getting hung up. idk what to do besides write no scooters on the curb with a mark all and hope they get the hint. Im only there like twice a week I cant like watch the spot, Ive dealt with scooters fucking up other shit in this town before, put a giant giant dent in a parking curb I had a few years ago. i only hope if I run into em there not minors so I can properly tell em to fuck off. i used to be able to slide/grind this curb all the way, now I can only get a foot or two at the most. i definitely need new trucks but it shouldnt matter that much I made this shit perfect."
},
{
"poster": 191723,
"content": ">>191659 >my ledge was... grinded?"
},
{
"poster": 191733,
"content": ">>191723 if you dont skate why are you here"
},
{
"poster": 191762,
"content": "Do you guys take you boards with you when traveling (plane-air)? Do I have to pay extra for it or do some sort of check in?"
},
{
"poster": 191764,
"content": ">>191762 I've always just put it upside down on top of my duffel bag. Last time I flew I had my setup and two decks that I got from a shop where I was visiting. Never had an issue."
},
{
"poster": 191770,
"content": ">>191762 do what this guy did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM2 1UZ77R7M"
},
{
"poster": 191833,
"content": ">>191762 It really depends on the airport, I've flown out of Ireland with my board no problem, then coming back from France the asshole security made me check it in as oversize baggage which cost even more than normal. I've also had my skatetool confiscated at airport security in London, so that's another thing to watch out for."
},
{
"poster": 191837,
"content": ">>191222 anyone know where i can find or watch evan hays/badkidd08 older videos? i never seen them before he deleted them all"
},
{
"poster": 191845,
"content": "what is it about bronze56k that people like? they hardly even sell hardware, they mostly sell gay ass graphic t shirts and pants that look like shit. their videos has cool visuals and animations i guess, but what do people see in this brand?"
},
{
"poster": 191853,
"content": ">>191845 People like the videos they captured the drugd out meme aesthetic of that time when they were first hot that's why i still respect them"
},
{
"poster": 191854,
"content": "Ever since I got sober I got fat now I'm built like bam shit sucks bros"
},
{
"poster": 191856,
"content": "Skated all my life until getting out of college in Japan/Hawaii. Moved to states and gave my last board to a random kid at the park before boarding flight to mainland. Life hit and now I'm a heavier gym rat dad who just started skating again after a 10 year hiatus. Felt euphoric, way more muscle memory/balance came back than I could even imagine. Life is good."
},
{
"poster": 191857,
"content": ">>191845 the videos are good and have a different euro aesthetic like palace. >>191854 when im not drinking Im eating lots of chocolate and junk food but the trick is to also exercise"
},
{
"poster": 191880,
"content": "Straye has $20 shoes right now if you wanna look like a 3rd grader"
},
{
"poster": 191884,
"content": ">>191857 >have a different euro aesthetic they are from queens new york and new jersey"
},
{
"poster": 191889,
"content": ">>191837 he made them public"
},
{
"poster": 191890,
"content": ">>191638 Good skating dude. I watched the rest of your YouTube videos and read the comments. Some of those YouTube comments are trolling assholes not to be taken seriously - I hope you're not letting them bother you."
},
{
"poster": 191891,
"content": ">>191889 im looking for the videos that were like gifted haters, i only see vlogs"
},
{
"poster": 191899,
"content": ">>191856 >way more muscle memory/balance came back than I could even imagine This is how I convinced a friend of mine to pick skating back up. It's like unlocking latent abilities that you built up in your youth. People skating for the first time as an adult don't have that experience."
},
{
"poster": 191957,
"content": ">>191899 >It's like unlocking latent abilities that you built up in your youth. that's how i felt last time i skated a gap and threw out hospital flip after not doing those for like 10 years and landed it 1st try."
},
{
"poster": 191976,
"content": ">>191957 Gross"
},
{
"poster": 191980,
"content": ">>191976 i mean that's why i hadn't done them in 10 years"
},
{
"poster": 191981,
"content": ">>191856 same mid thirties and just ordered a creature board. A little self concious about my age and that im still messing with a children's toy but fuck it. any way anyone use a shorter board length wise. I got a creature stump board thinking it would be easier for flip tricks. what was anyone exp with shorter length boards been"
},
{
"poster": 191982,
"content": ">>191981 >ordered a creature board oh no no no no no"
},
{
"poster": 191983,
"content": ">>191982 give me the qrd anon. i havent kept up on whats good and whats not"
},
{
"poster": 191989,
"content": ">>191983 creature and santa cruz use the shittiest woodshop there is, boards are notoriously bad"
},
{
"poster": 191990,
"content": ">>191981 i got an oldschool shaped deck because it was on sale and i wanted to support my shop. the fucker is like 10 inches wide but short and it's the first board i've ever been able to treflip with zero effort. >mid thirties i think skating and snowboarding are boomer sports now. last time i went on the mountain i don't think i saw a single boarder who looked younger than 40. >creature i wanted to get this deck or the junji ito ones but they both sold out really fast"
},
{
"poster": 191991,
"content": ">>191989 bummer. They are the only ones i could find with a shorter length size in an 8 >>191990 that was my problem before. Every time i would try a trick i had to over exaggerate the flick. it became such a pain in the ass i just stopped and just ollie shit"
},
{
"poster": 191996,
"content": ">>191981 I'm 33 and just got back into skateboarding. I'm messing around with all the dimensions. Wheel base is huge for me. I need 14\"+. My last board when I was like 15 was a 7.6 board and I got back into it with a 8\", but the wheel base is less than 14\" and I got a 7.75\", but again less than 14\". I got a 8.38 and its 14.5\" wheelbase. The wheel base is probably the most important part for me because I can ollie like a motherfucker on the 14.5, but its so fat I can do flip tricks, but its really slow. I'm sticking with the short wheel base 7.75 with low trucks, but I'm torn between riding higher trucks with a longer tail and nose and wheel base or just at least getting a 14\" wheel base for a 7.75 board with my low trucks and a short tail. I like having super fast pop, but with that 14.5\" wheel base I can get a super high ollie out of it. Its just that its fat and it rotates slow."
},
{
"poster": 192012,
"content": ">>191996 i just wish there was a low truck with actual kingpin clearance"
},
{
"poster": 192018,
"content": ">>192012 I'm on mini logos. Theyre the lowest if you ride a wide board. Like 47mm. I'm tempted to try thunders if I want to get a 8\" board that isn't short as fuck."
},
{
"poster": 192019,
"content": "Gotta be real lads, rollerblade vids mog skateboard vids hard. Every skate vid is the same - disjointed grinds and flips down stairs with no cohesion, choreography or creativity. They're going for the hardest trick, the high score, but not style. Watch blading vids way more creative interesting tricks, spots, innovation, STYLE. Is it cause skateboarders are autistic?"
},
{
"poster": 192020,
"content": ">>192019 no one wants to Rollerblade though. skateboarding is magic and rollerblades are gay."
},
{
"poster": 192021,
"content": ">>192020 >skateboarding is magic I ain't seeing it bro. I'm seeing people who would never dare to dance at a party doing tism flips to impress his peers, not magic."
},
{
"poster": 192022,
"content": ">>191990 >i think skating and snowboarding are boomer sports now Damn straight. You can add surfing too. Seems the amount of groms has diminished to an all time low."
},
{
"poster": 192023,
"content": ">>192019 It is because you're a rollerblade fag who likes the intricacies of the tricks while everything on blades is a soul grind of mute grab spinneroo to me. We are into skating in the same way where something styling and creative to us is just another kickflip to you."
},
{
"poster": 192024,
"content": ">>192021 dancing at a party is gay. I'd rather be autistic than a homo."
},
{
"poster": 192025,
"content": ">>192024 Dancing is euphoric and literally something humanity has done forever. Try letting go of that inhibition. >>192023 See you're naming tricks but it's not about that, those technicalities. It's about doing something epic stylish, creative and FUN."
},
{
"poster": 192026,
"content": ">>192023 Real. I get nothing from watching BMX, Blading, or Scootering(ew). I rarely ever see bladers anymore. They're a dying breed. Every time I see one they are older too."
},
{
"poster": 192027,
"content": ">>192023 I skate(board) too btw and have been doing that longer than blading. I love skateboarding I think the vids are uninspired."
},
{
"poster": 192028,
"content": ">>191991 They're fine I have never heard that about Creature, typical stiff chinese wood. I have that exact board it's quite steep and square, probably a lot different than what you're used to if it's been 15-20 years."
},
{
"poster": 192029,
"content": ">skate vids I sleep >rollerblading vids GAY >SOAPING VIDS REAL SHIT https://youtu.be/ATpVL1NUyx0?si=dgk -6gLDCpd8kMdJ"
},
{
"poster": 192030,
"content": ">>192019 rollerblading will never be cool but yes skaters are creatively bankrupt in comparison thats cause skaters are jocks that want to fit in so everything is formulaic while rollerbladers are actual outcasts, you have to be a little odd and incredibly authentic to your true self to rollerblade since it's gets such strong rep of being lame. does not suprise me that their vids are more interesting, still gay as hell though"
},
{
"poster": 192031,
"content": ">>192030 Yeah you get it man. And I'm not even gonna argue blading is gay cause whatever. Here's a video you might like, a bit more traditional so I think boarders can enjoy it too. Maybe my favorite. https://youtu.be/S-qzyzMNeJQ?si=o4_ IlTSjc7XGOQs6"
},
{
"poster": 192033,
"content": ">>192031 I'm gay and that little wall hop just turned me straight. Thanks."
},
{
"poster": 192034,
"content": ">>192033 No problem brother. (that wall hop is epic)"
},
{
"poster": 192036,
"content": ">>192031 The only cool thing was the long lines but they also seemed very easy where as they are difficult in skating. Not into the gay dreamscape nonsense film style."
},
{
"poster": 192039,
"content": ">>192036 >the long lines Yes I really like that too. It gives a flowing rhythm over single tricks cut together. >they also seemed very easy For him, yes. To me it's not about difficulty but style... SOUL even."
},
{
"poster": 192043,
"content": ">>192030 >skaters are jocks that want to fit in"
},
{
"poster": 192045,
"content": "why is rollerblading even being discussed in here"
},
{
"poster": 192120,
"content": ">>192019 >Gotta be real lads, rollerblade vids mog skateboard vids hard. >>192031 >Posts the corniest hipster edit imaginable"
},
{
"poster": 192126,
"content": ">>192030 >rollerblading will never be cool the kelso brothers would have something to say about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn7 D0E-L4n4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4A GsTa0mcI"
},
{
"poster": 192131,
"content": ">>192126 nigga >>127374 get this gay shit outta here, this is one of the reason why nobody likes you fags both irl/online, constantly trying to insert yourselves where you dont belong and insist you're actually cool that can hang like an annoying little brother. if anyone here was interested in rollerblading they'd be posting about it in your general. theres no reason for you to be in here waxing our coping."
},
{
"poster": 192134,
"content": ">>192126 >rollerblading doesn't have Finnish schizo vloggers creating depressive kino fruit booters just can't win"
},
{
"poster": 192135,
"content": "i watch skate vids cause I wanna see different skaters doing different tricks at different spots. Im not watching them for their artistic merit or soul or whatever the fuck. i guess when you only have 5 tricks you can do you gotta make up bull shit in your head to justify watching someone spin 30 times for a part"
},
{
"poster": 192137,
"content": ">>192132 do you want me to go shit up your general? cause its raining here and I got the time"
},
{
"poster": 192150,
"content": ">>192135 >Im not watching them for their artistic merit or soul or whatever the fuck low iq npc take"
},
{
"poster": 192151,
"content": ">>192150 >low iq npc you're describing 99% of skateboarders"
},
{
"poster": 192152,
"content": ">>192150 watch television or a fucking movie retard"
},
{
"poster": 192156,
"content": ">>192126 Wow, rollerbladers are big on fake steez, huh? So many of those roll aways looked retarded. These guys also look 40. The cultural impact of rollerblading is basically zero theses days, so the kids that would have bladed are scooter kids now. The rare times when I do see bladers they're usually chill old heads, but man does their sport look silly to me. It probably looks even sillier to kids that didn't grow up sharing parks with fruit booters"
},
{
"poster": 192157,
"content": "Alright, what's you guys' favorite skate vids then? Post some, I'm curious. >>192120 Eh, it's fine if it's not your style but it's a very thoughtful video with soul imo."
},
{
"poster": 192158,
"content": ">>192131 >constantly trying to insert yourselves where you dont belong and insist you're actually cool Wasn't my intention, just disappointed in skatebaord vids but I'd love to see what you guys' favorite skate vids are."
},
{
"poster": 192161,
"content": ">>192157 >very thoughtful video with soul imo. the fuck does this even mean (rhetorical question dont answer >>192158 id love to know what skate vids you actually watched >>192156 >The rare times when I do see bladers they're usually chill old heads the older dudes that I see that are still doing are always chill and are never in a park. I ask em if they been doing it since the 90s/early 2000s and they usually hesitantly answer yes probably assuming im gonna make fun of em but I just tell em thats sick keep doing you. they've learned to stay in their lane"
},
{
"poster": 192162,
"content": ">>192161 The ones called \"[Skater name] [skate video name] part\". I don't remember which ones. So, which skate vids are your favorite?"
},
{
"poster": 192163,
"content": ">>192162 >talks all that shit >never even watched a vid get outta here fag"
},
{
"poster": 192164,
"content": ">>192157 mosaic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C3 av3rDTVM"
},
{
"poster": 192170,
"content": ">>192126 Lmao that first one was really bad, skipped second. Like I said anon it's all mute grabs and soul grinds. Ramped slow mo power slides make no sense. Also the arm steeze are straight from 90s skating but people were eventually bullied out of it. I like this part, is fast, balls to the wall, every trick done properly and editted well with a good song. It's everything I need - https://youtu.be/L-g0_nrdrpg These guys were wild tho, blading should stick to ninja shit. https://youtu.be/o0z0Rf6eeb4 I guess you're going to keep posting, probably try not to troll cunts with the whole us v you thing. Bladers have their own lane and should stick to it."
},
{
"poster": 192171,
"content": ">>192170 >try not to troll cunts with the whole us v you thing The guy you're replying to is not I who made the first post, and I was not even trying to do that. I skateboard. >>192164 I like the vibe in the first part, he's pretty chill. The vfx and editing has the vibe of THUG 1."
},
{
"poster": 192172,
"content": ">>192171 Fair. There was a period of my life I skated with rollerblades. No one skateboarded in my area. Was good memories, lots of jump ramps and stupidly big gaps. Only one guy still does it but he wears lycra suits and goes for like 200km long rides kek"
},
{
"poster": 192173,
"content": ">>192171 >talks nothing of the skating/tricks/spots just VIBES fruitboot fag leave, you have the mentality of a art school dropout"
},
{
"poster": 192174,
"content": ">>192172 Nice it is fun."
},
{
"poster": 192175,
"content": ">>192164 To show appreciation to you, and not to appease that guy, I'll say I like the 180s in and out of slides, and the 360 on the fire hydrant. Stuff like that adds some style which I like. Mostly I like how he does the tricks, pretty relaxed and fun."
},
{
"poster": 192184,
"content": ">>192175 its called a natas spin faggot. did you really not even watch till fred gall?"
},
{
"poster": 192185,
"content": ">>192184 i remember not liking his part as a kid but rewatching now it's really good"
},
{
"poster": 192189,
"content": ">>191468 fuck off fruitbooter"
},
{
"poster": 192222,
"content": ">>191762 Depends on the airline. If they don't allow it, I just leave the deck and buy a fresh one there."
},
{
"poster": 192223,
"content": ">>192157 >Alright, what's you guys' favorite skate vids then? Post some, I'm curious. Here's a few. https://youtu.be/4tx2Q9pNxPc https://youtu.be/iB2RT-hyD58 https://youtu.be/47Tvon-C-SU https://youtu.be/FCiR2b8UCj8 https://youtu.be/ukqBz4CjPu0 https://youtu.be/kWhyPZgiXI8 https://youtu.be/8iePDEh3gvc"
},
{
"poster": 192228,
"content": ">>191468 terrible idea, completely different sports"
},
{
"poster": 192231,
"content": ">>192223 thats a great list. unfortunately this zoomer fruitbooter can't even make it through 5 minutes of a single vid."
},
{
"poster": 192233,
"content": ">>192157 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwi Dnrl9uSg this is basically the skate video for me, probably a fan compilation, banned by copyright many times, this one is shit quality, I don't know if you consider this a classic"
},
{
"poster": 192235,
"content": ">>192233 reminds me of the greatest skate video of all time Gangsta Skater vs Punk Skater"
},
{
"poster": 192241,
"content": ">>192157 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygq 6IiNRLNU"
},
{
"poster": 192247,
"content": ">>192235 >Gangsta Skater vs Punk Skater lol I remember that shit"
},
{
"poster": 192262,
"content": ">>192147 hahaha where is this from?"
},
{
"poster": 192266,
"content": ">>192262 Ryan Lay Epicly Later'd, shes talking about gifted hater who appears in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smn 8mg1bHmk"
},
{
"poster": 192267,
"content": "I am the depressed shit who asked for videos to get motivated. I have gone skate boarding twice since last post. Today I smashed and maybe sprained my knee to the floor. I could limp within minute and I got back on board within five minutes but even after few hours it feels a bit unsteady. Hopefully it is just pain and bruise. More videos would be nice"
},
{
"poster": 192268,
"content": ">>192267 I hurt my IT band last time I got hurt. Must've torn muscle below the knee. It was bad. Feels great now, but I'm on a small break. Hard to get motivated again because of work, I'm fucking some milf and I'm doing a project painting my car, plus today I'm drinking beer and playing video games. Idk how old you are, but I know that when I got hurt, I knew something went wrong, but it took hours til I actually couldn't walk anymore and I kept skating. Next time I get hurt (I'm 33) I'm just going to stop for the day."
},
{
"poster": 192270,
"content": "34 and started skateboarding last week. (skated for a bit when I was a teenager.) Taking it slow by getting comfy on the board with pushing and pumping. Can Ollie somewhat ok and trying to land shove its at the moment. Feel a bit embarassed sometimes learning at the parks by myself being a bit older. Is it over for me bros? Should I just hang it up?"
},
{
"poster": 192271,
"content": ">>192270 you think about yourself too much"
},
{
"poster": 192272,
"content": ">>192268 27y old I started last year I have already bent my ankle once and it took over a month to heal Three to heal completely I will wait until this heals I seriously need to start using board as vehicle once the weather allows Would improve everything a lot"
},
{
"poster": 192273,
"content": ">>192270 at least you're by yourself for some privacy lol. I personally don't want to interact too much when I'm trying to relearn shit at parks and trying to learn new flatground shit."
},
{
"poster": 192275,
"content": ">>192272 All I know for what I did wrong was I didn't lower myself to the obstacle. The new park built near me has like pretty low obstacles, lots of transition though. Hopefully you figured out your mistake. As for being depressed, I can't help because I try everything to cheer myself up. Its one of the reasons I got back into skating and nothing seems like it helps. Just have to keep going and know there are better days ahead. Skating might bring you down somedays and make you want to give up, but if its fun, if its some kind of way to express yourself, like the way I see it, its good to have and force yourself time to time."
},
{
"poster": 192277,
"content": ">>192270 Stop thinking about others In the beginning I looked like a 27y old tard with knee pads, gloves and old bicycle helmet Now I look like a 27y old tard with pic related I would have preferred it in olive green or similar color /k/ is strong in me No idea if it is proper helmet for the job but it has saved my head more than once"
},
{
"poster": 192280,
"content": ">>192270 shut up faggot"
},
{
"poster": 192287,
"content": "Bought a round flat rail and 50-50s do work when you just put all your weight on it. I'm stoked."
},
{
"poster": 192291,
"content": ">>192266 This was such a good episode. I only became aware of Ryan recently, but dude has such good style. I can't wait for the Sci Fi video. I actually saw them filming for it in my city last fall. Always was a fan of Jerry when I was a kid too. Me and my homie used to watch his Bag of Suck part religiously before skating"
},
{
"poster": 192306,
"content": "I'm a bit disappointed bros..."
},
{
"poster": 192313,
"content": ">>192291 am too stoked for the Sci Fi vid. Jerry rules. the episode coulda done without a 5 minute segment on GH"
},
{
"poster": 192314,
"content": "This gifted hater arc is like the black mirror game show episode where the black dude goes crazy and threatens to kill himself and it gets good ratings so they adopt his gimmick into their propaganda machine."
},
{
"poster": 192330,
"content": ">>192277 >No idea if it is proper helmet for the job but it has saved my head more than once >but it has saved my head more than once"
},
{
"poster": 192337,
"content": "what's everybody working on? grip-less skater here, working on this tail stall hand flip thing, not really sure what it's called. once i get it down on this easy bank, I'll move on to steeper slopes."
},
{
"poster": 192345,
"content": ">>192337 i always found indy hand fips way easy than doing it from a nosegrab for some reason. >what's everybody working on? i'm pretty beat up from riding park and bombing hills all winter but i'm trying to get my tres/switch tres really dialed while i take it easy but now i also have massive autism about doing them with no drift"
},
{
"poster": 192357,
"content": ">>192337 The self filmed kickflip looked really cool, I liked the pop shuv sex change as well. No idea what the hand flip is called. Several tricks I'm wanting to learn and improve on right now, crooked grinds probably top of the list. I can lock into them really well almost every single time, even pinch and hold them really well, but exiting the grind or popping out is still inconsistent. Skating with no grip is a bit odd, but I feel like I can relate at least a bit because I've always really disliked MOB grip and how overly-coarse it is - I prefer something like classic Jessup or Pig grip. I'm new to the general, may try to get a couple quick clips soon just to share something. Been a really long time since I've tried filming anything."
},
{
"poster": 192358,
"content": ">>192357 practice popping out of nose manuals going off curbs. nogrip is pretty good unless you need pop or go anywhere that your board will get even slightly dusty or damp. i know it's kook shit but now that i've tried foam grip on skateboards i'm never going back to mob."
},
{
"poster": 192359,
"content": ">>192306 what's the story with that guy? is he a nonce or what?"
},
{
"poster": 192360,
"content": ">>192358 >practice popping out of nose manuals going off curbs. That's a good idea, ollie into nose manual is another trick I've been working on so two birds in one stone there. Right now the only way I'm landing crooks is by riding them to the end of the ledge and just kind of dropping out of them."
},
{
"poster": 192372,
"content": ">>192357 No grip is to protect my shoes. Sick of spending 60 bucks a month on shoes, plus I hate when grip wears a hole into your shoe, it starts putting holes in my socks and eventually scraping skin off my foot. When I stopped using grip, I noticed that the rubber from my shoes creates enough friction for me to continue skating like normal. Even friends who've never skated like this can kickflip it first try when they try my board. Tldr; I can wear nice shoes to skate, they don't wear down. >>192358 >Unless you need pop No grip hasn't affected my Ollie's at all, it's all about how you snap that tail on the ground."
},
{
"poster": 192375,
"content": ">>192345 Will try that, I'm just no good at nose stalls. Probably something else I should work on"
},
{
"poster": 192378,
"content": ">>192306 >>192359 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRV -io7c3VU"
},
{
"poster": 192379,
"content": ">>192372 I honestly want to try it next time I set up a fresh board for shits and giggles. I know I like less abrasive grip like jessup and I've currently had my pair of shoes last 4 months now with shoe goo. I mostly wear down on the kickflip area. The other day I was curious to try my work boots and they work surprisingly well, but I wear them to work. I might actually start skating in them though when my boots start to look ugly. My boots are light."
},
{
"poster": 192383,
"content": ">>192337 I'm working on 50-50s on round rails. And my ollies and kick flips. I fucked around with my set up so many times. I really want an excuse for a new board with a longer wheel base, but still 7.75"
},
{
"poster": 192390,
"content": ">>192378 >DUDE SHE WAS 17 YEARS 364 DAYS 23 HOURS AND 59 MINUTES OLD HOW FUCKING DARE YOU?!"
},
{
"poster": 192391,
"content": ">>192372 >No grip hasn't affected my Ollie's at all Maybe but, I don't think it's helped them.. what happens if you go faster?"
},
{
"poster": 192392,
"content": ">>192383 5 boro used to have a really nice 7.75 x 32 with a 14.25 wheelbase but idk if they still make it"
},
{
"poster": 192393,
"content": ">>192379 >The other day I was curious to try my work boots and they work surprisingly well, but I wear them to work. I might actually start skating in them though when my boots start to look ugly. My boots are light. I really enjoyed wearing specifically my work boots for skating for a while. The giant sole underneath makes for a great bake pad when planting and dragging your pushing foot to slow down. It doesn't wear down evenly though so eventually trying to walk on them will give you spine problems. It was nice having a large area for stability but at the cost of dexterity, mostly for going down hills."
},
{
"poster": 192397,
"content": ">>192392 That is fucking perfect. Of the 3 boards I have, I have a 7.75 with 13.875 wheel base 6.38 tail and low trucks. I guess even just 14\" is better, but I'm liking the challenge of mastering my ollies on the short wheel base. Next board I am thinking about getting is 7.75 with 14\" wb and 6.25 tail. I feel like a short tail works well with low trucks. The other board is a 8.38 with 14.5 wheel base, but its so fat. I don't feel connected at all, but it makes ollies so comfortable, like my feet don't have to be as close together to get a 2 foot ollie. Ive seen there is a wheel base adjustment tool where itll attach to your bolts so you can drill with precision new holes."
},
{
"poster": 192398,
"content": ">>192393 >It doesn't wear down evenly though so eventually Thats my concern I guess. I just wear those boots so much that it kind of makes sense I'd want to skate in them. Worn the same brand and style for I think over the last 10 years, but they used to be 45$ the first time I bought them, now its double the price. I just save them in my amazon cart and buy them when I see them get below 80$. I wonder if shoe goo can rebuild that rubber too, because its been working with my skate shoes."
},
{
"poster": 192399,
"content": ">>192398 ah they are $72 right now in this color. So wide, so comfortable, so light, but I'm not ready to make the change. Pissed they used to be fucking 45$, but they last so long for warehouse shit. I had a pair last me 3 years til the sole separated. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B 07NLY5GXX/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?s mid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1&psc=1"
},
{
"poster": 192400,
"content": ">>192399 The skate shoes I buy are under $60."
},
{
"poster": 192401,
"content": ">>192399 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B 098764GRF/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?s mid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 also my skate shoes I buy are half a size smaller than what I wear to be comfortable."
},
{
"poster": 192404,
"content": "You guys should bookmark this thread: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index. php?topic=59883.14430 I've gotten so many good deals on shoes. Currently have some half cabs on ice that I got for $45."
},
{
"poster": 192407,
"content": ">>192378 what's the qrd? i'm not giving that dan webz shithead any views"
},
{
"poster": 192408,
"content": ">>192407 Its probably half overreaction, but also he mustve touched some younger than legal girls and made them feel uncomfortable. He drank a bunch while giving lessons and mustve made advances, but idk. I feel like let the law do what it do and braille can fuck off. Its gay."
},
{
"poster": 192410,
"content": ">>192404 there’s a fucker on there with like a full emerica warehouse in his closet but he didn’t have any hsus in my size. i miss that shoe so much bros. ipath cats too"
},
{
"poster": 192498,
"content": "i got 5 pairs of etnies/emericas last year for $100 + free shipping. how are you going through a $60 pair of shoes a month unless your ditching your shoes the moment they get a small hole."
},
{
"poster": 192502,
"content": ">>192498 idk i wear my shoes until they fall apart but i think that's partially how i ended up with tendonitis"
},
{
"poster": 192521,
"content": ">>192516 >>192518 >>192519 Having trouble champ?"
},
{
"poster": 192528,
"content": ">>192397 When I have the money I'm probably just going to have to move up to at 8\" and get some mid height trucks. I used to ride 5.0 ventures on an 8\" board and got a shit load of use out of it, but I'll probably get some new 5.25 trucks."
},
{
"poster": 192530,
"content": ">>192521 I shattered my knee trying to post that clip"
},
{
"poster": 192536,
"content": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lm tl6LUPpQ"
},
{
"poster": 192546,
"content": "Is an 8.5 board going to feel massive for someone with size 42 shoes? I've been riding an 8.25 for a while now and been thinking of going up a size for riding more bowls/transition/"
},
{
"poster": 192547,
"content": ">>192546 Its probably about the same. I would get started with what you have before making the decision to try. I like my flat ground shit and want to stay below 8.25. My 8.38 is pretty much my longboard, but I guess at some point I have to skate a bowl for the first time."
},
{
"poster": 192548,
"content": ">>192546 length & wheelbase have a bigger effect imo. i used to be really autistic about deck size but now i jump between a 7.75 and like a 10 and it's not a big deal."
},
{
"poster": 192552,
"content": ">>192548 I can get that, but I feel like short wheel base doesn't limit me but I don't like my feet so close together for big ollies and I don't like how slow wider boards rotate and it feels like I have less control when I'm in the air for flip tricks."
},
{
"poster": 192553,
"content": ">>192548 I guess none of it really matters its all personal preference. I still havn't done enough experimentation with truck height."
},
{
"poster": 192556,
"content": "I ride an 8.6 and mostly skate street. Only difference for flip tricks is my legs get tired quicker and 360 flips rotate slower but I never had them good anyway. I think you adjust. Smaller boards feel like I need to be delicate with my flicks now. I also went from 7.5 all the way up in increments over 15 or so years."
},
{
"poster": 192557,
"content": ">>192556 I like how much I have started to feel on the board even its small, just getting huge pop sucks if the board is short."
},
{
"poster": 192569,
"content": ">Be sperg >Feel weird around others >Others feel weird around me I do not know shit about any of social interaction and even less about skateboarding I still want to be social Maybe not like other great apes"
},
{
"poster": 192570,
"content": "I don't know what size my board is cause I'm not a faggot choosing boards based off numbers, I actually stand on the different decks to choose based on feel I am superior"
},
{
"poster": 192571,
"content": ">>192556 i've never even heard of an 8.6 deck >>192570 here's your >you, faggot"
},
{
"poster": 192572,
"content": ">>192571 Riley Hawk rides an 8.6"
},
{
"poster": 192573,
"content": ">>192569 finding out that heath is a turbo autist about skating around people made me feel better https://vimeo.com/361141778 [spoiler]i used to skate fucking contests and had so many tardo socializing moments that still make me want to jump out a window whenever i remember them[/spoiler]"
},
{
"poster": 192577,
"content": "I recently tried 8.38 and it's the only size I want to skate now"
},
{
"poster": 192579,
"content": ">>192337 Riding bowls better and trying to launch out. It's so hard to stick out the bonk and land. One of those things where I need to unlearn bad habits in how I pump."
},
{
"poster": 192581,
"content": ">>192337 slappy crooks"
},
{
"poster": 192586,
"content": "I'm not butthurt about it, but a bit funny - I live in the middle of nowhere so I order most of my gear. Bought a Toy Machine deck that their own site said was 31.75\" length, and 14.25\" wheelbase. CCS and Skatewarehouse both list the same specs for the deck. It was a good board, really enjoyed the shape, decided I wanted to try a 14\" wheelbase and slightly shorter board as my next deck. Noticed when I set up the new board that it looked VERY similar to the one I just swapped, so I got a tape measure and actually measured - The old one I had been riding was actually 31.5\" length and 14\" wheelbase, so identical to the new one I just bought. So either I got a miss-press, or all 3 sites have the specs off. I'm going through a bit of \"madness\" right now, so trying to find a shape to stick with. Thanks for reading my blog."
},
{
"poster": 192590,
"content": ">>192586 i really like jp skate sites because they do the best job of actually showing you the deck you're buying >https://r-fskate.com/view/category /deck?sort=order"
},
{
"poster": 192592,
"content": ">>192571 It's a passport board. I might drop to 8.5 next depending what's on sale. >>192573 Thanks anon I just remembered my one and only competition I entered at like 12. I bailed every trick then decided to make up for it by hitting the big quaterpipe with speed. Only I ate shit on the way and face planted in the middle of the park. Didn't get a second run."
},
{
"poster": 192610,
"content": ">>192581 damn, nice"
},
{
"poster": 192624,
"content": "I hereby proclaim /esg/ anime territory."
},
{
"poster": 192628,
"content": ">>192577 try shovel nose shape next and you will want to skate nothing else. 8.38 shovel nose is the perfect board"
},
{
"poster": 192630,
"content": "Oh fug did you guys see James Hardy died?"
},
{
"poster": 192632,
"content": ">>192630 did he die skating?"
},
{
"poster": 192637,
"content": ">>192632 apparently a seizure. I guess he took too many hits on the head."
},
{
"poster": 192646,
"content": ">>192624 fuck you we /chuck/ here"
},
{
"poster": 192647,
"content": ">>192646 based"
},
{
"poster": 192649,
"content": ">>192646 >he didn't go all in on GACHI ngmi"
},
{
"poster": 192650,
"content": ">>192649 you'll be changing my lambo's car battery before the day is over buddy"
},
{
"poster": 192653,
"content": "Does Finnish dude lurk here regularly? His videos are like peering into the life of a schizo. I relate with him in some ways"
},
{
"poster": 192654,
"content": "2.5 million in liquid assets Im going to be riding bones swiss the rest of my life"
},
{
"poster": 192655,
"content": "Did some heelflips over easter"
},
{
"poster": 192662,
"content": ">>192408 Why do you hate Braille ? They were kino when Lance was still around."
},
{
"poster": 192665,
"content": "Every day I think about what life would be like if I didn't mess up my knee."
},
{
"poster": 192666,
"content": ">one of those sessions where you first t everything cock is rock solid"
},
{
"poster": 192667,
"content": ">>192666 feelsgoodman"
},
{
"poster": 192668,
"content": ">>192662 >Why do you hate Braille ? zoomer leave"
},
{
"poster": 192669,
"content": ">>192662 >Why do you hate Braille ? Why do you like Scientology backed content for children?"
},
{
"poster": 192670,
"content": ">>192668 Braille is an old channel >>192669 Oh come on lad, sure Aaron is into that weird cult but that doesn't mean they're indoctrinating children, right?"
},
{
"poster": 192671,
"content": ">Why do you hate Braille ? They were kino when Lance was still around."
},
{
"poster": 192673,
"content": ">>192671 wonder where Lance is nowadays. the lance dance was probably the only genuinely good thing to come out of braille."
},
{
"poster": 192674,
"content": ">>192670 you must be 18 to post here"
},
{
"poster": 192676,
"content": ">>192670 Literally everything they post is kids content"
},
{
"poster": 192682,
"content": "Started trying frontside flips for the first time since picking skating back up, I never had them before or really put much time into practicing them but right off the bat they're feeling really good. Landed a couple that were a bit sketchy but I'm getting a good pop and rotation out of some. Was unexpected that it worked out like that - Always a rare and pleasant surprise when a trick comes easier than you thought. Will keep practicing them, really want to expand my flatground repertoire"
},
{
"poster": 192684,
"content": ">do you know who ryan lay is \"no\" >i love that he recovers favor with the \"you might know something with the sci-fi-fantasy board to be that hip\" >o-oh you know them \"yeah they're pretty low key\" would you guys turn pro if someone offered it to you even if you skated like beatrice / or gifted gaper :^) if you make a cool twin tail graphic i'll buy it"
},
{
"poster": 192686,
"content": ">>192684 Its funny how most of the paypigs from GH's discord are shitters and trolls"
},
{
"poster": 192694,
"content": ">>192686 yeah i appreciate secret genius"
},
{
"poster": 192709,
"content": "remember when no comply tricks were trendy? what a terrible era"
},
{
"poster": 192719,
"content": ">>192709 i cant do them without hurting my knee"
},
{
"poster": 192721,
"content": "i finally able to do shuvit after couple days trying, might buy myself some chicken home"
},
{
"poster": 192792,
"content": ">>192721 wow are you also homophobic? take a hike buddy"
},
{
"poster": 192800,
"content": "I've hit real strides in my progression bros. I never thought I'd still be learning new shit like this at 30. These threads have unironically helped motivate me to keep skating. I hope you all have a great next session"
},
{
"poster": 192801,
"content": ">>192800 Fuck yeah boi >t. also 30 and learning new tricks"
},
{
"poster": 192803,
"content": ">>192800 literally just do a little everyday. that's all you need to do to keep getting better."
},
{
"poster": 192875,
"content": "i was on the fence about toby ryan but the raw talent makes up for the lack of soul"
},
{
"poster": 192878,
"content": ">>192721 >>192800 yes boys keep at it"
},
{
"poster": 192880,
"content": "Knee still feels funny. While standing from squat or crouch or such position with normal slight sideways strain. I guess I will keep my board on the ground for a while."
},
{
"poster": 192881,
"content": ">>192880 >strong muscles around your knee = less knee problems Do some calisthenics shit for it"
},
{
"poster": 192882,
"content": ">>192881 It hasn't affected walking but I get it checked just to be sure."
},
{
"poster": 192883,
"content": ">>192882 >get it checked desu seems no use >\"it is strained\" Is what they will say. Maybe even tell you which specific ligament. It doesn't really matter, you just need to strengthen the muscles."
},
{
"poster": 192886,
"content": "it only took 20 years but i can actually treflip now >>192880 look into the ido portal squat challenge"
},
{
"poster": 192891,
"content": ">imagine being over 30 and ska-AACCKKKKK"
},
{
"poster": 192892,
"content": ">>192891 lmao"
},
{
"poster": 192894,
"content": "Just ordered some Fallen \"Goat\" shoes. Pretty stoked on how they look but I don't think I'm going to like going from high tops (Tremont) to low."
},
{
"poster": 192895,
"content": ">>192894 fallen is still in business???"
},
{
"poster": 192897,
"content": ">>192895 They came back in 2019, still skater owned. A lot of the old riders (Cole, Sandoval, Marks) got back on. Their shoes are good. They resurrected a lot of their old models and made minor updates to them to modernize the designs, and also have some all new models. They recently had a big season end sale on their site, I got the Tremonts for only $28 which was awesome."
},
{
"poster": 192898,
"content": ">>192894 lowtops are nice for some things but goddamn i only need to get cracked in the ankle once to regret wearing them"
},
{
"poster": 192899,
"content": ">>192898 Yeah that's more or less my concern. I like the added protection and the \"secure\" feeling high tops give your ankles. I've torn ligament in my ankle before and although I've recovered I'd like to avoid more ankle sprains because they feel like they do more damage now than they used to."
},
{
"poster": 192900,
"content": ">>192895 My first thought kek, they were the best skate shoes for a minute til every company ripped them off"
},
{
"poster": 192901,
"content": ">>192899 it's only really an issue if you flip the board a lot and do shit like treflip mannys or nollie bs heel 360s where you're basically sticking your foot in a blender. supras were probably the most supportive skate shoes i ever found but they died sadly"
},
{
"poster": 192905,
"content": ">>192895 They went out of business, then they brought it back without Jamie Thomas lmao"
},
{
"poster": 192908,
"content": ">>192031 this is terrible man wtf are you talking about?"
},
{
"poster": 192959,
"content": "You guys wish you were me right now."
},
{
"poster": 192960,
"content": ">>192959 >Gamecube version based"
},
{
"poster": 192961,
"content": ">>192960 Based except it's literally impossible to play these games with a controller and I'm sucking massive ass. I could be speedrunning it on a keyboard, but on this bitch I'm taking my sweetass time."
},
{
"poster": 192971,
"content": ">>192959 whoa very nice anon"
},
{
"poster": 193036,
"content": ">>192800 think it dream it do it"
},
{
"poster": 193046,
"content": "Me and my homie landed our first flip tricks after serious injury. (I snapped my ankle he was shitting blood for a month). Felt wholesome as fuck"
},
{
"poster": 193052,
"content": ">>193046 >I snapped my ankle he was shitting blood for a month You're supposed to use your fist, dingus."
},
{
"poster": 193064,
"content": "Why did you guys not make me aware this show exists https://youtu.be/XZANKhLpONY?si=hy4 0blHcgAPkp04E"
},
{
"poster": 193123,
"content": "I really don't think that little gay bitch Robert Neal can take Gifted Redditor in a fight."
},
{
"poster": 193134,
"content": "Made a little mini edit. Everything could be done better but just wanted to have an early morning skate session getting some clips, it's very rare I film anything. Have a good weekend everyone."
},
{
"poster": 193135,
"content": ">>193064 LMAO that powerslide at the end was amazing"
},
{
"poster": 193139,
"content": ">>193123 Joa getting Weckingball-pilled >>193134 Nice, that park looks really fun"
},
{
"poster": 193140,
"content": ">>193139 Thank you. It's a comfy little park, great for low to medium intensity skating which is perfect for where I'm at these days. Big appreciation to the woman who worked for a decade+ to make this park a reality - It was a mother who lost her son at an early age (drowned) and she wanted to build a skatepark in his memory. Campaigned, held meetings, etc for a long time to make this park happen."
},
{
"poster": 193153,
"content": ">>192573 if you watch him when he was younger hes clearly autistic... like there is a video of him jeremy klein tony hawk all watching back the end or some other video i forget.. but his voice is super autistic and fucked up and he doesnt say a word for like the first half till hes drunk"
},
{
"poster": 193154,
"content": ">>193036 sam hyde is cringe"
},
{
"poster": 193163,
"content": "people keep trying to talk to me when i snowskate. i am an autistic hikkineet i am not prepared for this"
},
{
"poster": 193164,
"content": ">>193163 Go faster so they can't catch you."
},
{
"poster": 193179,
"content": "Knee bad Sleep schedule shit Motivation zero I just want snow to melt At least then I could just go outside instead of taking a long walk to hall"
},
{
"poster": 193180,
"content": "knees great sleep schedule on point, sensible bedtime highly motivated healthy eating no snow because i don't live in a frozen hellscape i just got back from a session with some other guys. we have a new curb going that we fixed up. it grinds really smoothly. after that i went out by myself to my own little curb that i keep a secret. i even got to pet a nice dog a little old lady walked by with. today was awesome."
},
{
"poster": 193183,
"content": ">>193180 >my own little curb that i keep a secret God I h8 cunts who do this shit. Fucking j*w I hope you get a pebble caught under your wheel tomorrow."
},
{
"poster": 193199,
"content": ">>193180 >woke up early >showered, groomed >got my uni work done >sunny day so skating later >it's only 9 am p good sunday so far"
},
{
"poster": 193203,
"content": "knee bad sleep schedule shit motivation sky high weather is great but knee bad"
},
{
"poster": 193206,
"content": "my problem is just my motivation is lacking right now."
},
{
"poster": 193215,
"content": "The thing with motivation is it always ebbs and flows. You need to have discipline and go out skating even on days you don't feel like it. Are you going to regret going? Most likely not if you enjoy skating. Sometimes all it takes is forcing yourself out there and hopping on your board"
},
{
"poster": 193216,
"content": "Why did I have to be me to get injured instead of one of you low test no motivation faggots? You don't skate anyways. I've never not wanted to skate."
},
{
"poster": 193219,
"content": ">>193216 They can't get injured if they don't go skating"
},
{
"poster": 193222,
"content": ">>193215 im just too distracted with other projects. I make sure i still get some flat ground in, but i really want to go back to the new park near me even though i kind of dont like it."
},
{
"poster": 193224,
"content": ">>193222 Post new park."
},
{
"poster": 193230,
"content": ">>193224 https://youtu.be/yI07bvntgyA its not that new, but I just started skating again. It gets crowded, feels small to me and the flow is all over."
},
{
"poster": 193231,
"content": ">>193230 >new jersey LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
},
{
"poster": 193232,
"content": "https://youtu.be/NEudfXDItvs anyone watching?"
},
{
"poster": 193233,
"content": ">>193231 I wish I was good enough at skating to skate spots I find. Plus everyones a pansy and will call the cops immediately trying to skate random public places. Also I ended up liking NJ at this point in my life and even I cant believe it. Miss this park https://youtu.be/fbH9uXkHDB8"
},
{
"poster": 193234,
"content": ">>193233 https://youtu.be/7VUc1qdLZTU"
},
{
"poster": 193235,
"content": ">>193232 this dude Angelo Caro does a perfect run, not a single cheer... souless"
},
{
"poster": 193236,
"content": ">>193230 ive skated this park a few times, Its very fucking weird, the bowl sucks. the c - curb is too low to the ground, that bank is huge and steep, theres that verrt wall thing for no reason, the mini has square coping. last time I was there there were 2 or 3 boomers blasting a tony hawk ass playlist and they each had a couple complete set ups there were swapping back and forth, fully padded, could hardly skate around."
},
{
"poster": 193237,
"content": ">>193199 Fuck yeah man. Getting an early start to the day and then having all afternoon to chilll/unwind is the best."
},
{
"poster": 193242,
"content": "tampa pro is so boring how does anyone watch this or Street League"
},
{
"poster": 193243,
"content": ">>193242 It is alright I enjoy the contests most of the time"
},
{
"poster": 193244,
"content": ">>193242 jams are more fun than runs i don’t care if pros (tryhards) like runs more https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ULZj0 YcJn68&pp=ygUWdmFucyBkb3dudG93biBza G93ZG93bg%3D%3D"
},
{
"poster": 193248,
"content": "is it a bad idea to buy cheap wheels off ebay? I'm broke af but want to make one of my baords into a cruiser I can't imagine that quality would be an issue but idk"
},
{
"poster": 193251,
"content": ">>193243 they just dont inspire me to want to go skate, the parks are so boring/generic. >>193244 ive been to jams/demos and they are way more fun for everyone involved, sure theres less money/no trophies but it feels like everyone is way more stoked/involved where as tampa/sls people are chasing a bag"
},
{
"poster": 193253,
"content": ">>191387 I like it. The synth was pretty cool. Keep working on it, it sounds like it needs some changes, but I think you got something interesting there."
},
{
"poster": 193257,
"content": ">>193216 You are the weakest bitch of them all. Hurt your knee years ago and just gave up. Didn't have the balls to do what you needed to do to get back on the board. You don't get to call anyone low test."
},
{
"poster": 193260,
"content": ">>193248 For that price I'd just wait for a sale from a normal brand, iirc slap had a thread where they watch for sales on every skate site, only time I ever use that shitfest of a forum. Point of a cruiser is for it to be easy riding, why risk that on random chink hardware that's hard to find shit on. That or just wait another week on it and get shit you trust, that way half your time on your board isn't wasted on thinking if their acting wacky. Or hell, experiment with em, just find em cheaper than 20, that's the price of some real wheels."
},
{
"poster": 193267,
"content": "I'm trying to film a clip every weekend. This one took me longer than I had hoped, but the spot was also bigger than I anticipated. Feeling good about it overall. I found a few other spots nearby too."
},
{
"poster": 193268,
"content": ">>193248 i got some satoris for like 20 bucks. we're just coming into sale season as well"
},
{
"poster": 193269,
"content": ">>193267 that's a sick spot."
},
{
"poster": 193270,
"content": ">>193269 Yeah, I'm a fan. I had seen it in clips before, but never been to it until today"
},
{
"poster": 193272,
"content": ">>193267 Cool spot, looks good on camera too."
},
{
"poster": 193275,
"content": ">>193267 Good work anon!"
},
{
"poster": 193305,
"content": ">>193257 Get cancer and die in a fire."
},
{
"poster": 193325,
"content": "I'm sure I'm not the only one that suffers from this - You ever get a new pair of shoes to skate, but then unbox them and check them out and are like \"Man, these are sick and I want to keep them looking nice\"? I almost feel like I need to buy intentionally ugly shoes or colors I don't like in order to skate them without inhibition lol. Or maybe 2x pair of shit I like."
},
{
"poster": 193338,
"content": ">>193325 Yes you are the only one that suffers from this. When you start skating you'll stop suffering from this."
},
{
"poster": 193339,
"content": ">>193338 Do your parents still buy your clothes?"
},
{
"poster": 193341,
"content": ">>193339 No, do yours?"
},
{
"poster": 193342,
"content": ">>193325 That's just how it goes man. I prefer shoes that hold up well enough that they look good even when they're worn down. Can't say I've ever spared a pair. >I need to buy intentionally ugly shoes If I don't like what I see when I look at my feet I skate worse."
},
{
"poster": 193343,
"content": ">>193325 i get a little autistic about them until they've been skated for a few sessions. it's also kind of satisfying to see how they break in though and how your kickflip spot starts showing."
},
{
"poster": 193347,
"content": ">>193343 Yeah I'm kind of the same way - I feel kind of bad the first few sessions tearing away at them, but it's like they go through that initial tear period and once they look properly \"skated in\" they have their own appeal again. Just rambling. Like you said, shoe autism."
},
{
"poster": 193353,
"content": "Are these broken in enough"
},
{
"poster": 193354,
"content": ">>193353 only if the have holes on the soles"
},
{
"poster": 193389,
"content": ">>193325 you could get some clear shoe goo and put it on before you start wearing down the rubber or go no grip like that one anon. I just saw a video on youtube where the guy doesnt seem to use grip tape either."
},
{
"poster": 193396,
"content": ">>193389 The no-grip thing seems to be getting a little bit more popular(?) Not exactly the same thing but I've noticed it's VERY trendy right now at my local park for kids to put their griptape on with a whole side or half the nose/tail left bare. To me it looks like a horribly botched grip job, but they're all doing it on purpose. If Daewon can have a highly successful skate career never using top bushings, I'm sure someone could get used to skating no grip."
},
{
"poster": 193398,
"content": ">>191222 coomer tourist here whos the hottest girl skater i can simp for rn"
},
{
"poster": 193421,
"content": ">>193398 efron danzig"
},
{
"poster": 193422,
"content": ">>193398 marbie miller"
},
{
"poster": 193432,
"content": ">>193325 No, I am not gay."
},
{
"poster": 193442,
"content": "debating putting my board in my car and going to the park. I usually go mid day, week day to try to avoid people to no avail. Maybe after work its emptier."
},
{
"poster": 193443,
"content": ">>193442 Ill do it. its a 10 hour work day manual labor but im curious if somehow knowing I have my board already will get me motivated or keep me from getting too tired."
},
{
"poster": 193451,
"content": ">>193443 30 yr old bloomer here. I have two set ups, one in my car for random sessions. You'd be crazy not to."
},
{
"poster": 193489,
"content": ">>193442 even if you can't go skate keep a board in your car and everytime you have to drive do at least 1 trick. i did this with treflips and i have them on lock now"
},
{
"poster": 193490,
"content": ">>193451 >>193489 I burnt out at work and said fuck it. I hate that skate park. Im going to stick to street and flat ground or I can drive farther to try some other parks. But thats a good idea. I have different boards, but I cant wait to get another board and trucks knowing what I like now."
},
{
"poster": 193512,
"content": ">>193398 I can't say"
},
{
"poster": 193521,
"content": "i think we should combine this thread with the SOAP thread, the thread is really slow and the discussion would not interfere with the skate discussion"
},
{
"poster": 193531,
"content": ">>193521 Its not that slow. It just is not your thing if you expect others to contribute."
},
{
"poster": 193532,
"content": "can anyone recommend me some stuff to use for going tapeless? i think my tape head is fully fucked and i cant find anything good i have an hdr-fx7"
},
{
"poster": 193554,
"content": ">>193531 soap just has more soul, the videos have so much more character, I really think itd fit in well here."
},
{
"poster": 193571,
"content": "i think we should combine this thread with the Mike V thread, the thread is really slow and the discussion would not interfere with the skate discussion"
},
{
"poster": 193575,
"content": "I have like 1100 skatedeluxe premium club points and I want to order some dickies. I could get like wheels and socks for free but I think I'll just get socks."
},
{
"poster": 193587,
"content": "Whole lot of people in this thread giving way too much of a fuck what others think. Skating has always been about defying that. Skateboarding is therapy for autism. Get on that board and stop giving a fuck."
},
{
"poster": 193588,
"content": ">>193571 if we combine /esg/ with the mike v thread then the mike v thread will reach a bump limit faster"
},
{
"poster": 193591,
"content": ">>193587 >Skateboarding is therapy for autism. Get on that board and stop giving a fuck. I wish I could. I literally drive away from my neighborhood before I step on my skateboard."
},
{
"poster": 193592,
"content": ">>193591 same anon posting, to be fair, I only started again last december after +10 years off the board. Im finding my comfort again, but I wish i was more reliably spontaneous about skating. Its like I have to plan or wake up and think if I want to skate a lot that day or not. Im already planning if I want to spend time friday night or saturday skating and where and when."
},
{
"poster": 193605,
"content": "Bros fuck skateboarding. Now when I walk my ankle hurts after 25 years of constantly rolling it. I'm not gonna be able to walk by the time I hit 45"
},
{
"poster": 193607,
"content": "Man bros fuck having sex. Now when I fuck my dick hurts after 25 years of constantly fucking all sorts of bitches. I'm not gonna be able to fuck by the time I hit 45"
},
{
"poster": 193608,
"content": ">>193605 It's ok by then you'll be able to download a new one."
},
{
"poster": 193609,
"content": ">>193605 >25 years of constantly rolling it skill issue"
},
{
"poster": 193660,
"content": ">>193609 Not stretching issue. If you stretch with some ankle rolls pre-sesh you won't get as many injuries when it happens. May not be the toughguy-skater thing to do, but it works."
},
{
"poster": 193672,
"content": ">>193660 ive never rolled an ankle doing anything. I think its all in the calve muscle."
},
{
"poster": 193690,
"content": ">>193660 Good point >May not be the toughguy-skater thing to do I think most skaters are into stretching now. I even see teenagers stretching at the skatepark sometimes"
},
{
"poster": 193720,
"content": "brothers i warm up in the hot shower sauna style before the sessions in the pool better believe im not grabbing my fucking ankles at the park but you bet your ass im getting these hammies alive and engaged stretching at the park is fine but you better believe your old ass is marked as a geezer from that point on i unabashedly swing my legs around like a moron if ive not had a chance to shower and stretch"
},
{
"poster": 193734,
"content": ">>193605 >my ankle hurts Welcome to aging >>193720 I have to roll to warm up, usually just go post up under a tree and do 10 mins of non invasive stretching. Then when home I can spend 2+ hours on more stretches."
},
{
"poster": 193737,
"content": ">>193734 im mostly joking, but it's all in how you do the stretch, sitting down grabbing ankles isnt as effective but far less kooky also if you over roll your ankle intentionally, progressively (without actually rolling your ankle) it makes it much harder to roll your ankle"
},
{
"poster": 193738,
"content": ">>193737 Yeh obviously I don't bust out the yoga moves in public. One of my ankles I fucked badly, I don't really agree about rolling it intentionally, I do a lot to make it stable because it rolls so easily now. Once you fuck the ligaments and they become loose it is hard to undo. Meanwhile my other ankle is solid."
},
{
"poster": 193741,
"content": "yeah i dont mean...actually roll it, i mean progressively extended that range of motion your ankle is willing to accept without pain and gradually that range becomes bigger and thus more durable (untested bullshit) i will say just because your foot can do certain positions while warm, you can reach that same location cold but you will injure things"
},
{
"poster": 193770,
"content": "You dumb motherfuckers, you can't prevent fucking your ankle by fucking stretching it, the forces of skateboarding will fucking roll it wether you stretched or not. Now I can't drive or walk more than 30 minutes all because dumb ass skateboarding I'm only 33"
},
{
"poster": 193771,
"content": ">>193770 fuck you retard white paper says otherwise >>193672 this guy has a really strong and true point as well according to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar ticles/PMC164373/"
},
{
"poster": 193802,
"content": ">>193770 You are wrong and using this as an excuse to whinge instead of doing something about it. Bitch mode activated."
},
{
"poster": 193831,
"content": "just got new trucks, and they make a bit of a clicking and popping noise when turning is it something I should worry about?"
},
{
"poster": 193836,
"content": ">>193831 It's probably the pivot cups (or slightly less likely the bushings). If it bothers you, you can take the hanger off the truck and put a little wax in the pivot cup, then reassemble - It'll quiet things up. You can also use something like a silicone lubricant, or white lithium grease for automotives if you have something like that laying around."
},
{
"poster": 193849,
"content": ">>193836 thanks will the noise go away after using it regularly, or I have to do something about it if it bothers me?"
},
{
"poster": 193852,
"content": ">>193836 >white lithium grease for automotives if you have something like that laying around Only car battery changers have access to that."
},
{
"poster": 193874,
"content": ">>193852 What? https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lucas-O il-8-oz-Lithium-Grease-in-White-105 33/202535870 Although I will say I mentioned lithium grease, a silicone based lubricant would actually probably be better. Either way, all you're looking to do is lubricate the cups. >>193849 Normally once they start sqeaking and creaking they'll keep doing it. Almost every pair of trucks I've ridden has done that though, either right away or after riding for a few sessions."
},
{
"poster": 193881,
"content": ">>193720 >get to park >stretch quads by pulling them back behind me >stretch calves by handing heels off a step >stretch back by doing one of those twist things where you push against a wall behind you or sit lotus and use your legs >pump the bowl for a bit to see how I feel >if I'm fine, session is fully on >if not, more elaborate stretches This shit keeps me skating 4 to 5 times a week, I don't care if it reveals me for the 30 year old boomer I am."
},
{
"poster": 193882,
"content": ">>193874 NTA but my trucks will squeak for a while, then stop, then creak like crazy. I have yet to figure out what causes it but I think heat is a big element. I've put wax shavings and Speed Cream in the cup and bushings and it only has a temporary effect."
},
{
"poster": 193888,
"content": ">>193874 Enjoying your first 2 weeks on /esg/ eh buddy?"
},
{
"poster": 193911,
"content": "he doesn't know....."
},
{
"poster": 193915,
"content": ">>193398 NORA of course"
},
{
"poster": 193916,
"content": ">squeaky trucks That has never bothered me. Usually a new pair of indys will squeak on the first session, but after that it stops. I do so many nose slide variations that eventually my baseplate pinches the pivot cup and squeaks with every turn. My current trucks are so worn that I've chipped off some baseplate. Pic related."
},
{
"poster": 193939,
"content": "trips of truth the dubs below it reinforcing >>193916 holy shit dude you are fucking gnarly only time my trucks squeak is when the pivot cup is dirty, clean it up and put it back together and it usually works"
},
{
"poster": 193947,
"content": ">>193916 Fucking hell lol"
},
{
"poster": 193969,
"content": "lo siento señora jackson uuuuhhh"
},
{
"poster": 193971,
"content": ">>193969 allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright allright"
},
{
"poster": 193976,
"content": ">>193587 I embraced my autism and decided to start skating. Masking is shit."
},
{
"poster": 193980,
"content": ">>193943 I like big tiddies but this graphic is wallmart tier. Looks like something revive would make, minus the tatas."
},
{
"poster": 193981,
"content": "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZA NKhLpONY"
},
{
"poster": 193982,
"content": ">>193981 shame! already posted"
},
{
"poster": 193988,
"content": ">>193248 your steering/pushing would suffer if i could i would save up for a normal cruiser complete with wheel wells and big wheels but that’s just me"
},
{
"poster": 193989,
"content": ">>193988 >wheel wells wheel flares i mean like fenders on a car"
},
{
"poster": 193997,
"content": "I drove to 2 skateparks and saw all the kids on bikes and scooters and how crowded they were and didnt leave my car. Ive failed myself today."
},
{
"poster": 193999,
"content": ">>193916 That's amazing work anon."
},
{
"poster": 194017,
"content": ">>193916 pornographic"
},
{
"poster": 194047,
"content": ">>193398 >hottest girl skater lol"
},
{
"poster": 194067,
"content": "any idea on diy pivot cups beside the hot glue one? it took whole week for a new one delivered to me"
},
{
"poster": 194068,
"content": ">>194067 bro just put it down for a week skating without the pivot cup in place can be straight fuckery without gobs of wax"
},
{
"poster": 194072,
"content": ">>193988 >your steering/pushing would suffer how come? I have riser pads"
},
{
"poster": 194079,
"content": ">>194072 ignore it he's a retard telling you to buy a complete. idk how shitty those wheels are and they're not that cheap, I don't like really soft wheels either the 78s I had stayed on for about 15 minutes."
},
{
"poster": 194109,
"content": ">>194067 Buy them in \"bulk\" (like 2-3 sets at a time), it's cheaper and more efficient that way. I want to stock up on Riptide replacement cups."
},
{
"poster": 194131,
"content": ">>194047 90% of girls who skate are not hot in the slightest. Few exceptions. And she probably skates at your local park not a pro. Probably has an instagram with 3k followers where she posts backside boardslide clips in baby tees"
},
{
"poster": 194138,
"content": ">>194079 I found some for cheaper, 80a 60mm They feel way better on the sidewalk and road, even if it means I'm a bit more limited in tricks, so I'm probably keeping em for when I ride around town I will say maybe there's a middle ground I could take too, considering I've seen people run small but softer wheels so they can still do tricks on the street either way, I have a park board with normal hard wheels so I can just alternate if need be"
},
{
"poster": 194164,
"content": ">>194072 higher deck makes pushing harder nothing wrong with risers per se but the idea of using risers without wheel wells disgusts me but again that’s just me >>194079 >telling you to buy a complete no maybe you are the retard"
},
{
"poster": 194225,
"content": ">>194138 >I will say maybe there's a middle ground I could take too, considering I've seen people run small but softer wheels so they can still do tricks on the street Spitfire new 93a F4 \"Reynolds Formula\" wheels look like they're trying to accomplish exactly that. Looks like they're being marketed/pushed decently hard. No experience with them firsthand as I basically excluisvelyl skate smooth skateparks, but Spitfire makes good products so I'm sure it's not all hot air. I ride their 101 tablets."
},
{
"poster": 194241,
"content": "ywn be a 35-year-old boomer skater > the year is 2000 > grandpa takes you and your neighborhood friends to the skatepark for the first time ever in your 10-year-old life > you've only ever skated flatground and the janky 2inch high box you made, but your buddy can actually ollie up a whole curb(based) and your other buddy can do a heelflip once every 30 tries(also based) > \"sir, you will need to sign the waivers before they can go in\" > \"you are the legal guardian of all of them right?\" > *awkward staring at eachother* itsover.jpg > \"yeah\" > based gramps signs the waver with false info > we're in this is playing on the loudspeaker > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTl pX0LCdgI&list=PLUEMihO9lT7-qVkrq6b3 u_83gK_hdikU3&index=5 > avoid every single ramp and skate flatground for an hour > everything looks huge despite bein only 4ft high(10-year-old problems) > you finally work up the courage to drop in on a 3ft quarter pipe, actually do it first try > \"it's easy, just try it\" > friend tries it and breaks eats shit, chipping a tooth > other friend says fuck that and continues to skate flatground yeah, you will never know what it's like to be a 35-year-old boomer skater"
},
{
"poster": 194251,
"content": ">>194241 god i hated those fucking waivers so much. usually they'd be cool about it but every once in a while you'd get the fucking autist 'ermmmm are you achtually the legal guardian of all these kids' guy or someone's dumbass mom who didn't know how to play the game"
},
{
"poster": 194253,
"content": ">>194241 why were you hanging out with 10 year olds when you were 35?"
},
{
"poster": 194254,
"content": "Rewatching some old video parts, looked up Jamie Tancowny's part in Zero Strange World and good fucking lord look at the extension on this varial heel."
},
{
"poster": 194255,
"content": ">>194254 that whole video is so good"
},
{
"poster": 194256,
"content": ">>194255 It was from when the Zero team was at it's most \"stacked\", IMO. Their team at that point in time was just ridiculously good: Burman Brockman Cole Asta Tancowny Thomas Hill Rattray Sandoval Long list but each one of them was putting out INSANE video parts, and they all rode for Zero. The days right up until Blackbox closed were amazing."
},
{
"poster": 194271,
"content": ">>194241 33 this year. Sucked as a kid. Skateparks scared me what few there were near me."
},
{
"poster": 194281,
"content": ">>194271 I used to ride the biggest shit at the parks cause no one was on it. Now I am too self conscious to relearn."
},
{
"poster": 194313,
"content": "anywhere with decks on sale?"
},
{
"poster": 194324,
"content": ">>194313 You could always check the slap sale thread. If you don't mind blanks you can get generator wood here: https://skatesamples.com/ I got a pack of 5 and they are the generic shape that skate shops get from generator for their shop boards. They are technically samples so they can come with little imperfections, and the colors are random. I'm on my second one and I really like them"
},
{
"poster": 194325,
"content": ">>194324 Also, I wouldn't get griptape through there. Get some Mob or Jessup or whatever your preferred grip is"
},
{
"poster": 194327,
"content": ">>194325 >not wanting the \"USA griptape\" what are you some kind of commie"
},
{
"poster": 194328,
"content": ">>194327 lol I don't trust it, but maybe its okay?"
},
{
"poster": 194341,
"content": "Anyone here recommend non-abrasive grip tape? I'm too broke to keep buying new shoes every 2 months. Not to mention I actually like wearing some of them without holes"
},
{
"poster": 194349,
"content": ">>194341 dkl is ok, but personally i hated it after a day."
},
{
"poster": 194353,
"content": ">>194341 also shoe goo works"
},
{
"poster": 194360,
"content": ">>194341 foam grip is good if you like your boards being less grippy while also keeping a consistent level of grip through the whole life of your board. it costs way more than a sheet of mob though so i wouldn't really consider it a cost saving measure especially if you go through boards pretty quickly. also like if you foot drag or run out on tranny you are still gonna wear through your shoes. tbqh i consider the fact that your shoes don't get blown out to be kind of a bad thing because they're still packing out and becoming less supportive even if the toecap isn't getting shredded but you don't have the same visual indicators of where your shoes are in their lifespan and i'm pretty sure riding dead shoes on dead boards for so long is 90 percent of the reason why i got tendonitis."
},
{
"poster": 194365,
"content": ">>194313 skatewarehouse always has sales > https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Clea rance_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-SALE DECK.html > https://www.skatewarehouse.com/catp age-DKELEMENT.html"
},
{
"poster": 194375,
"content": "New dickies 847 I got are stiff as balls. I don't remember them being like that. Did they change anything?"
},
{
"poster": 194401,
"content": "is it normal that newly replaced wheel and bearing make landing a flip harder, it's too slippery even when landing a shuvit"
},
{
"poster": 194424,
"content": ">>194401 not harder it's just different"
},
{
"poster": 194460,
"content": ">>194401 did you get wheels that hard as shit (97a +) and immediately skate them on polished concrete? If so then yeah that could be seen as normal for someone without a ton of experience, if you got normal hardness wheels and are skating on asphalt then no that is not normal and you're doing something very wrong"
},
{
"poster": 194465,
"content": ">>194460 it's 92A 55mm on ceramicish sideroad, i think i got used to shitty bearing so when the new one installed it just became too slippery to me, rn i changed it to the old bearing and it's better"
},
{
"poster": 194514,
"content": ">>194365 >>194324 hell yeah, just bought a deck, wheel and bearings. Good looking out fellas"
},
{
"poster": 194606,
"content": ">>194325 It's Jessup, says it right on there"
},
{
"poster": 194660,
"content": ">>194606 Someone order some and tell me if its as good as normal jessup"
},
{
"poster": 194734,
"content": ">>191222 new thread >>194733"
},
{
"poster": 196700,
"content": ">>191374 whats more content like this? I liked that"
},
{
"poster": 196717,
"content": ">>196700 Bros my penny board came in the mail today. I tried riding it on my side walks but the side walks are too shitty. works good in the parking lot though. Im kinda dissapoingted, I wanted to livbe the crusing penny lifestyle. STill liek having the board though. Any other suggestions of short boards that are good for shitty side walks? I like shortboard cause of the portablity. There's lots of place where regardless of board imma have to carry it cause of the terrain."
},
{
"poster": 196938,
"content": ">>196937 You know what to do"
}
] |
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{
"poster": 192433,
"content": "In terms of knock out power and versatility in a fight, which one is superior? A palm strike or a punch?"
},
{
"poster": 192434,
"content": "If slaps are considered palm strikes then that's the answer"
},
{
"poster": 192456,
"content": ">>192433 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6NiSS G6laRo"
},
{
"poster": 192458,
"content": ">>192456 Anyone who posts this guy instantly loses their argument."
},
{
"poster": 192497,
"content": ">>192456 >no fight twink faggot on a channel called \"armchair violence\" ripping on something he has no experience with >doesn't even know where the palm strike advice comes from >\"from a small sliver of the self defense community\" >has no fucking clue how to properly use palm strike It didn't just magically come from some B.S. section of the RBSD guys. The palm strike suggestion came straight from experienced H2H military members who realized that throwing out a fist when the guy you're fighting is covered in hard surfaces, fucking hurts, and firing a gun with a busted finger is hard. You're not meant to use it on the same angles or distances as fists. The way this autistic faggot larper talks, it's like he can't fathom any other method of fighting and adjusting your footwork to make up range is just unheard of. You could make a video just like this for the use of fists. Poor surface choice, tendon damage, easier to break meta-carpals, harder to align, etc. >>192433 It's not one or the other. They're both good for different goals. Both have advantages & draw backs. And some of the arguments get turned around real quick you really think about it aren't just being a faggot. Like in that video, he bitches about distance being an issue cause \"omg you guys you lose 2 inches!!!\" What if I am in too close to throw a good punch but not close enough to land a good elbow? Theres a big fucking distance range there, and palms can help you cover that distance. Or maybe you don't want to throw elbows at all because you know how easy it is to get ulnar neuropathy, palms can help round out your toolkit in the absence of other things. >tl;dr: either/or arguments are for no train/no fight fags"
},
{
"poster": 192501,
"content": ">>192497 >What if I am in too close to throw a good punch but not close enough to land a good elbow? You throw a hook or uppercut"
},
{
"poster": 192509,
"content": "If your hands are taped and you're wearing a glove (boxing or MMA), obviously a punch. Nothing comes close except an elbow. Bare-knuckle and in a street fight? Palm strikes. You punch to the body, but don't break your hand so an open-palm blow will be much safer."
},
{
"poster": 192537,
"content": ">>192456 I will never listen or believe anything this guy says solely on the fact that he sounds like Spongebob"
},
{
"poster": 192538,
"content": "Palms because you can lead into a grab."
},
{
"poster": 192576,
"content": ">>192537 And looks like he hasn't trained or worked out a day in his life."
},
{
"poster": 192739,
"content": ">>192456 >if you kick with your shin you will break your leg Somebody tell Thailand"
},
{
"poster": 192830,
"content": ">>192433 Depends on if you have gloves or not. I could teach you to effectively palm strike in a few days. It would take a year for you to be an effective puncher. Punches easily are more versatile. Knock outs require precision which also favors the punch."
},
{
"poster": 192868,
"content": ">knock out power and versatility punches by far"
},
{
"poster": 192873,
"content": ">>192868 This. If palms were actually stronger than punches everyone would use them all the time. The only advantage a palm strike has is that it’s less likely to break your hand."
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 192952,
"content": "Was thinking about Strickland’s remarks about Road House being accurate in that 90% of fighters wind up as bouncers after their career has finished. What /xs/ sport career has the best base for post retirement"
},
{
"poster": 192953,
"content": "This thread has also been made in mind that it seems most MMA fighters have a shitty afterthought of a career post-retirement. That Jake Shields has to resort to posting Holocaust denial for Twitter engagement for money just tells me how desperate things must be after it’s over. Francis was right to go for the bag"
},
{
"poster": 192958,
"content": "Colbozo btfo"
},
{
"poster": 192990,
"content": ">>192953 He's very wise to go for the bag. He was elderly and aging. Should have just retired after that fury fight and left boxing fans buttflustered for years to come. But hindsight is a bitch >>192952 Coaching? Open you own gym? I've noticed a lot of nobodies get picked up to coach specifics like striking or grappling. As long as they had one or two ammy fights they will be in demand. don't know what the pay is like though, I imagine not much."
},
{
"poster": 193032,
"content": ">>192990 >going after the bag Ultimately, though there’s some joy in seeing Dana getting btfo and asshurt over it, Francis was completely right as an independent fighter to chase after fights with more money and those so happened to be outside of MMA. You’ll look back on his career and wonder what the fuss was about (he really didn’t have that many at UFC level) but he made the right decision for himself in the long run. >should have retired after Fury I disagree with this and desu I thought pursuing AJ was a very smart move. Especially the £20m payday he got from it. He could’ve fought a comatose bum like Hellenius for an easier fight. The way AJ exposed him will be interesting to see who he matches up against next >coaching etc This seems to be it but the pay must actually suck unless you’re training with elite talent. Though even that is an unknown in terms of what they pay these people to spar. MMA just seems more depressing after retirement. Plus most retire younger than most boxers (who seem to go on for longer despite the damage done)"
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 193478,
"content": "S&G 6730 Internals Edition A thread dedicated to the art of lock manipulation and the art of lockpicking. Good resources regarding the art and skill of lockpicking and primarily safe manipulation. -https://www.docdroid.net/sVRijBi/t he-art-of-manipulation-pdf -https://youtu.be/GhfDJIXsirg?si=0j 6-LcvH63sDuqII -https://www.youtube.com/playlist?l ist=PL1mdjQBV_-Jv2lf9QZ4chNtW656EOV Xzl Thanks for stopping by!"
},
{
"poster": 193479,
"content": "OP here, I don't know if this can be classified as an extreme sport but it a very niche sport."
},
{
"poster": 193480,
"content": "While competitive, /diy/ would probably be a better fit. In the vein of chainsaw and wood chopping stuff."
},
{
"poster": 193481,
"content": ">>193480 That's probably for the better, I'll just repost this thread there. If the mods choose to delete this that wouldn't be a bother."
}
] |
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[
{
"poster": 2951972,
"content": "'Cause the old one's gone."
},
{
"poster": 2952102,
"content": "Bump."
},
{
"poster": 2952175,
"content": "double bump"
},
{
"poster": 2952562,
"content": "picrel has lived in my mind rent free for weeks"
},
{
"poster": 2953830,
"content": "Glad to see actual lewd Kawoshin shit here, all I’ve got is wholesome and cute stuff Adorable but nothing to fap to"
},
{
"poster": 2953836,
"content": "Something about Shinji getting railed makes me feral"
},
{
"poster": 2953853,
"content": ">>2953830 The boys love to wear their plug suits into the club. They stick tight to each other so no gross old men annoy them."
},
{
"poster": 2954886,
"content": "It is KawoShin day."
},
{
"poster": 2955600,
"content": "Bump."
},
{
"poster": 2956231,
"content": "Nigga Shinji is like 14"
},
{
"poster": 2956250,
"content": ">>2956231 Its okay, teen shota is allowed here. Only pre-teen shota is banned."
},
{
"poster": 2956252,
"content": ">>2956231 That's half the appeal"
},
{
"poster": 2957343,
"content": "Man...KawoShin is so based."
},
{
"poster": 2957354,
"content": "i love shinji kun and he loves me"
},
{
"poster": 2958053,
"content": "haven't been on /y/ in months"
},
{
"poster": 2958189,
"content": "full size: https://files.catbox.moe/t4w30c.png"
},
{
"poster": 2958215,
"content": ">>2953960 >>2954886 >>2956252 >>2958053 >>2958070 Top Shinji is best Shinji. More top Shinji."
},
{
"poster": 2958322,
"content": ">>2958215"
},
{
"poster": 2958522,
"content": ">>2958072 >>2958186 sources?"
},
{
"poster": 2958773,
"content": ">>2958194 me on the right"
},
{
"poster": 2961927,
"content": ">>2961084 sauce?"
},
{
"poster": 2962835,
"content": ">>2958215 I have a folder of this, most of it's kinda shit though. (I know im replying a month late)"
},
{
"poster": 2966911,
"content": "."
},
{
"poster": 2967413,
"content": ">>2965709 >Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec Based"
},
{
"poster": 2970049,
"content": "what's with all the pedoshit? post some actual adults like kaji n hyuga or at least characters who LOOK like adults"
},
{
"poster": 2973731,
"content": ">>2973068 giwtwm"
},
{
"poster": 2974774,
"content": ">>2974773"
},
{
"poster": 2975545,
"content": "Shinji had been having trouble with his sync rates with Eva 01. And did he ever regret opening his mouth when he told Dr. Ritsuko he had been masturbating lately as a possible reason for the difficulty. Even after Shinji was fitted and locked with a medical grade Nerv issue chastity device, his sync rates were still below par. Shinji kept reporting that he had stopped masturbating, and Ms. Katsuragi reported that she hadn't overheard Shinji whacking it in his room either. She was sure he couldn't possibly be pleasuring himself because she kept the key with her at all times. She had noticed Shinji'd been spending more time with Kaworu at his apartment, but figured he was just burning off steam playing videogames with his friend, like he said he was. Still, sync rate results continued to be below expectation. Dr. Katsuragi decided she wanted to have Shinji stay in chastity for another week or two to see if continued abstinence would improve his sync rates. \"A week or two, or as long as it will take really to rule out masturbation conclusively as the source of your problem\" Shinji felt himself getting weak in the knees"
},
{
"poster": 2977387,
"content": "bawmp"
},
{
"poster": 2977501,
"content": "Our boys won the gold on Twitter's most iconic BL/mlm/yaoi ship poll"
},
{
"poster": 2987258,
"content": "If you wanna come share sfw and nsfw bois pics, visit link on pic it's /cm/ with lewds, there is a /gig/ channel as well"
},
{
"poster": 2987260,
"content": ">>2987258 sorry for not noticing my pic was the OP T_T"
},
{
"poster": 2988671,
"content": "Reposting link >ZMwJs8Ds and bump"
},
{
"poster": 2989082,
"content": ">>2970049 we finally got adult kaworu and shinji and not a single bit of porn of them lmao"
},
{
"poster": 2989175,
"content": ">>2989082"
},
{
"poster": 2989575,
"content": ">>2989082 there's a ton of 2928 and 2829, what are you talking about"
},
{
"poster": 2990591,
"content": "day late (﹏)"
},
{
"poster": 2991495,
"content": "happy year of the rabbit"
},
{
"poster": 2991496,
"content": ">>2991495"
},
{
"poster": 2991989,
"content": ">>2987258 The link's invalid"
},
{
"poster": 2991990,
"content": ">>2988671 also invalid"
},
{
"poster": 2992982,
"content": ">>2992981"
},
{
"poster": 2994133,
"content": ">>2977501 Reminds me of experimenting in middle school with my gay best friend, later first boyfriend. Handjobs and footsies while watching Toonami/Adult Swim on the weekends. oh how I miss those days."
},
{
"poster": 2994615,
"content": ">>2994133 I'm jealous of you. In junior high school, a friend and I used to huddle together over porn magazines and talk about sex all the time. I was always over at his house and his parents were barely home. I think I had a crush on him. In hindsight I bet he had a crush on me, too...wish I'd tried something. Which of you made the first move?"
},
{
"poster": 2994620,
"content": ">>2994615 Well kinda of a long story, posted it here and there a few times >be 13 >spring break 2005 >best friend and I are watching DBZ at my house >Turns to me to tell me something >\"hey Anon, you're my best friend and I think you should know that I'm gay.\" >Known that I'm gay to since midway 6th grade >\"huh...me too\" >Awkward moment between us >He asks \"wanna look up some dragons ball porn?\" >Run upstairs >Fire up my ol emachines, the one with the never obsolete sticker on the front >look up dragon ballz gay porn >find a cruelly drawn picture of goku tied up withal a dildo about to be shoved up him >We start rubbing our cocks through our cargo shorts >\"Anon its okay, i wanna jerk off too\" >He sits on my bed, i sit in the computer chair >Shorts and underwear at our ankles and shirts back around our necks >Find another picture of goku getting fucked by ryu from street fighter, the one with the mmg copyright >Jerking, taking glances at him >I cum with a huff and puff on my stomach >Im still stoking as he gets close >He moans as he cums on his softly toned stomach >I don't know what overcame me but I leaned in the lick his cum off him >Its sweet and sour, not delicious what I heard online, i was imagining steak juices >I swallow it up while blushing looking at his eyes, wide like a telephoto lens >\"Huh.you didn't have to do that.\" >We clean up, go back downstairs >Continue eating pizza >\"So Anon, I know that was weird but I'll keep quiet about it, I know you'll do the same, but we can do that again if you want.\" >\"Dude of course\" >Continued fool around for a few months till the summer when he ride me cowgirl style >Still did the mutual masterbation, making out, foot rubs, et all >After that we kinda became boyfriends secretly for a year before my parents found out >There's a lot more but that's pretty much how it started"
},
{
"poster": 2995447,
"content": "This thread is a beautiful youthful diamond in the sea of bara dust. Keep it up"
},
{
"poster": 2996641,
"content": "nya"
},
{
"poster": 2996642,
"content": "meow"
},
{
"poster": 2998115,
"content": ">>2995447 The coming storm of Tasteful Lindy will wash away all baraniggers. Glory to the White race."
},
{
"poster": 3002344,
"content": ">>3002343"
},
{
"poster": 3002419,
"content": ">>2998115 twitterGOD win"
},
{
"poster": 3002809,
"content": "Does anyone have any pics of Shinji fucking himself? I have a clone fetish and can't seem to find any."
},
{
"poster": 3003366,
"content": "How is this shit allowed here? If these pictures of 14 year old boys having sex were found on your devices by the police you'd all go to jail."
},
{
"poster": 3003955,
"content": ">>3003366 kys baranigger"
},
{
"poster": 3004293,
"content": ">>3003366 my devices are full of 28 year old men having sex, actually"
},
{
"poster": 3008823,
"content": ">>2991990 >>2991989 >>2987258 i left it on a whim but regret it, can you repost the link?"
},
{
"poster": 3010804,
"content": ">>3008823 Hi! There you go fren! >/VDfk8m7r"
},
{
"poster": 3011839,
"content": ">>3010804 new inv?"
},
{
"poster": 3012543,
"content": ">>3011839 yes sir: /nWDRGeSE"
},
{
"poster": 3012633,
"content": ">>3012543 Wow! This server is ran by anti-patriotic libtard pussies, don't join!"
},
{
"poster": 3013393,
"content": ">>2956231 You can always just pretend that he’s 18. Most pics with Evangelion characters look ambiguous enough."
},
{
"poster": 3017706,
"content": ">>2956231 Out of 10!"
},
{
"poster": 3018951,
"content": ">>3012543 Can I get an inv as well?"
},
{
"poster": 3019352,
"content": "hole"
},
{
"poster": 3020782,
"content": "post more kaji"
},
{
"poster": 3022096,
"content": "Why is 2914 so good bros?"
},
{
"poster": 3022642,
"content": ">>3018951 I'm late but there you go /9DeMcDSB"
},
{
"poster": 3024134,
"content": "grateful for this thread being here to remind that I am not gay and find everything except playful blowjobs and anal extremely disgusting"
},
{
"poster": 3024283,
"content": ">>3024134 You must be 18 or older to post on this board."
},
{
"poster": 3024285,
"content": ">>3024284"
},
{
"poster": 3024287,
"content": ">>3024285"
},
{
"poster": 3025701,
"content": "Why is Eva allowed on /y/ but no Hunter x Hunter? The characters are like two years apart in age."
},
{
"poster": 3028170,
"content": "Kaworu is the bottom"
},
{
"poster": 3028988,
"content": ">>3028170 truth"
},
{
"poster": 3029821,
"content": ">>3020782 >>3020783 >>3020784 I fucking love Kaji (and Toji)."
},
{
"poster": 3030603,
"content": ">>3030320 sauce?"
},
{
"poster": 3030795,
"content": ">>3030603 pixiv dot net/en/artworks/85720556"
},
{
"poster": 3031029,
"content": ">>3030795 >breaking links to pixiv"
},
{
"poster": 3031309,
"content": ">>3030320 I despise Shinji, but this almost sways my opinion."
},
{
"poster": 3032611,
"content": ">>3025701 cause Gon and Killua look like 7-8 year olds in the 2011 anime while Shinki and Kaworu look like they are 16. So you are safer posting that on /b/ The 99 version makes them look older, but good luck finding that instead of 2011 inspired"
},
{
"poster": 3033007,
"content": ">>3025701 >Why are teenagers allowed but not prepubescents What a loaded question. It's stated in the pin."
},
{
"poster": 3033953,
"content": ">>3031531 More with small dicks! So hot."
},
{
"poster": 3036269,
"content": "Shinji: 5 inches Kaworu: 2 inches"
},
{
"poster": 3038322,
"content": ">>3037164 nice"
},
{
"poster": 3038413,
"content": ">>3037164 tiny pp"
},
{
"poster": 3040146,
"content": ">>2951972 I want a gay relationship like THAT"
},
{
"poster": 3040312,
"content": ">>3040146 meaning?"
},
{
"poster": 3040539,
"content": ">>3040312 power bottom"
},
{
"poster": 3040949,
"content": "bump"
},
{
"poster": 3041644,
"content": "God is dead."
},
{
"poster": 3045042,
"content": "anyone remember a web doujin of adult salaryman shinji hooking up with younger kaworu? i cant find it anymore"
},
{
"poster": 3045950,
"content": "Can't believe this thread lasted over two years."
},
{
"poster": 3045951,
"content": ">>3045950 The End of Evangelion Great pic to finish it with."
},
{
"poster": 3046453,
"content": ">>3045950 Fapped a lot to this thread, holy hell. I'm not even gay."
},
{
"poster": 3047343,
"content": "before the thread dies, does anyone have archives of previous eva or kawoshin threads saved?"
}
] |
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| 2,992,428
|
[
{
"poster": 2992428,
"content": "Guys sucking testicles, licking shafts, and smelling bulges, whether out of hazy cocklust or humiliating duress. Top and bottom POV both encouraged."
},
{
"poster": 2993443,
"content": ">>2992432 >>2992435 >>>/d/"
},
{
"poster": 2993746,
"content": ">>2993443 I have that body type retard how brain poisoned do you have to be to see anyone that isn’t a gym rat as a literal woman with a penis? touch grass"
},
{
"poster": 2993877,
"content": "Can someone translate please? I want to know what they are saying"
},
{
"poster": 2993878,
"content": "2"
},
{
"poster": 2993879,
"content": "4 i wish this artist did something else aside from hankcon"
},
{
"poster": 2993880,
"content": "5 I still havent gotten my ideal Connor facfic!! I so wish want a proper convin doujin where he gets absolutely humiliated and owned"
},
{
"poster": 2995814,
"content": ">>2992428"
},
{
"poster": 2997278,
"content": ">>2997131 Is this berserk?"
},
{
"poster": 2997281,
"content": ">>2997010 imagine him just whispering 'cum' in your ear"
},
{
"poster": 3007067,
"content": ">>2992428 Megumi and Sukuna <3"
},
{
"poster": 3010773,
"content": ">>2997278 Yuh"
},
{
"poster": 3010937,
"content": ">>2992435 ugh im so SICK of not having a bf with a big fat cock to rest across my entire head i was so stupid to marry a lesbian she doesn’t even have a cock period >:("
},
{
"poster": 3014521,
"content": ">>3007187 Source?"
},
{
"poster": 3014837,
"content": ">>3007187 >>3014521 @RED_gart"
},
{
"poster": 3025276,
"content": ">>2999882 Hot"
},
{
"poster": 3027940,
"content": ">>3026932 this shit is so fucking hot really want to lay by cock on some cutie like this"
},
{
"poster": 3030290,
"content": ">>3026307 sauce?"
},
{
"poster": 3031632,
"content": ">>3030290 mazamuno"
},
{
"poster": 3034672,
"content": ">>3010937 Mine is pretty fat, and I'm looking for a bf"
},
{
"poster": 3034845,
"content": ">>3034672 Post contact link"
},
{
"poster": 3034993,
"content": ">>3034845 negativethots. on discord. You need the period. Here's my cock"
},
{
"poster": 3036277,
"content": ">>3035973 Artist?"
},
{
"poster": 3036555,
"content": ">>3036277 https://twitter.com/OctoErotic be warned he does trans stuff"
},
{
"poster": 3040301,
"content": ">>3039758 Giwtwm"
},
{
"poster": 3040741,
"content": ">>3039757 >mm sweaty rancid gym dick and cigarette smoke do fujos really"
},
{
"poster": 3041000,
"content": ">>3040741 Yea"
},
{
"poster": 3042367,
"content": ">>2993877 Ahh kissing sound Refreshing sound Sucking sound Heartbeats"
},
{
"poster": 3043576,
"content": ">>3034993 >19 cm fuck you I need this"
},
{
"poster": 3045372,
"content": ">>2993746 >I have that body type god I wish I was you"
}
] |
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| 2,996,173
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[
{
"poster": 2996173,
"content": "Other male characters from Miraculous Ladybug are fine too"
},
{
"poster": 2996174,
"content": ">>2996173"
},
{
"poster": 2996178,
"content": ">>2996177 Agrestecest is so hot"
},
{
"poster": 2996182,
"content": "Wish there was more stuff with Gabriel"
},
{
"poster": 2996477,
"content": ">>2996476"
},
{
"poster": 2996478,
"content": ">>2996477"
},
{
"poster": 2996479,
"content": ">>2996478"
},
{
"poster": 2996480,
"content": ">>2996479"
},
{
"poster": 3000686,
"content": "Would love to see him kick some big, evil guy in the balls and then fuck the evilness out of him."
},
{
"poster": 3003288,
"content": ">>2996459 Got full Patreon of this anon?"
},
{
"poster": 3004910,
"content": ">>2996174 >>2996177 Cat Noir is a cute and hot boy, stop making him fucking girl"
},
{
"poster": 3006247,
"content": ">>2999582 best itt"
},
{
"poster": 3006759,
"content": "he's gay too, my shiro"
},
{
"poster": 3009789,
"content": "Anyone have any art of the cute snake dude?"
},
{
"poster": 3012027,
"content": ">>2996459"
},
{
"poster": 3012463,
"content": "btw .gg/fkDGdrtd - feel invited"
},
{
"poster": 3013276,
"content": "I liked the guy in the green snake suit."
},
{
"poster": 3014935,
"content": "bump"
},
{
"poster": 3016184,
"content": ">>2996173 Why did they put such a sexy cat in a kid show?"
},
{
"poster": 3016342,
"content": ">>3016184 For the parents"
},
{
"poster": 3016675,
"content": "stop this ai shit spam for god's sake"
},
{
"poster": 3016681,
"content": ">>3016675"
},
{
"poster": 3016967,
"content": ">>3016681 Not that anon but kill yourself dirty AI nigger"
},
{
"poster": 3017201,
"content": ">>3017004 Looks like rectal prolapse"
},
{
"poster": 3017325,
"content": ">>3017230 cute"
},
{
"poster": 3018710,
"content": ">>3017452 Wrong show"
},
{
"poster": 3019148,
"content": ">>3018330 ai but still nice"
},
{
"poster": 3021424,
"content": "what's better than one chat? two chats!"
},
{
"poster": 3021759,
"content": ">>3021424 they look very horny"
},
{
"poster": 3022263,
"content": ">>2996173 isn't he underage?..... (not like i care, if he's got hair down there then he's fair game in france)"
},
{
"poster": 3022315,
"content": ">>3022263 he's 15 which is AOC in France. they knew what they where doing."
},
{
"poster": 3022583,
"content": "SD"
},
{
"poster": 3023130,
"content": "SD"
},
{
"poster": 3024391,
"content": ">>3024372 you're a big guy"
},
{
"poster": 3026903,
"content": "there’s a lot of shotacon here"
},
{
"poster": 3027378,
"content": "now that's what I'm talking about"
},
{
"poster": 3028987,
"content": ">>3027697 \"Don't repost my generated image!\" What a crock."
},
{
"poster": 3030834,
"content": ">>3027697 How do these dumb fucks think they can get away with signaturing AI art when it has the most obvious lighting ever?"
},
{
"poster": 3034857,
"content": ">>3030834 good question"
},
{
"poster": 3035287,
"content": ">>3035269 >do not repost my deformed AI art kek"
},
{
"poster": 3038361,
"content": ">>3038359 >>3038360 Self post? Looks like shit lmao"
},
{
"poster": 3038363,
"content": "Roastie thread"
},
{
"poster": 3038365,
"content": ">>3035287 they make money on that, you kno"
},
{
"poster": 3038366,
"content": ">>3038362 Sexless girl art"
},
{
"poster": 3038368,
"content": ">>3038365 Fujoshits need to be stopped"
},
{
"poster": 3038370,
"content": ">>3038368 ok?"
},
{
"poster": 3038375,
"content": ">>3038374 Idk what that guy's problem is these are good."
},
{
"poster": 3038394,
"content": ">>3038386 Do you have more with caps?"
},
{
"poster": 3038396,
"content": ">>3038394"
},
{
"poster": 3039908,
"content": ">>3039875 >>3039876 >>3039877 >>3039878 Very cute ai style."
},
{
"poster": 3039961,
"content": ">>3039875 >>3039876 >>3039877 >>3039878 Hot af I wish we could have an actual artist drawing in this style"
},
{
"poster": 3040047,
"content": ">>3038365 No one cares when con artists lose money"
},
{
"poster": 3040906,
"content": ">>3040084 Wholesome blackmail"
},
{
"poster": 3040930,
"content": ">>3040084 >tumblr nose gross"
},
{
"poster": 3046333,
"content": ">>3046326 Stupid sexy cat"
},
{
"poster": 3046334,
"content": ">>3045269 >>3045271 >>3045404 >>3046325 >>3046326 >>3046327 >>3046328 why do women love making everything off-model and hairless"
},
{
"poster": 3046367,
"content": ">>3046334 Because without body hair it is much much better, not only is the muscles better defined, the body looks soft and sensual. Or would you eat a delicacy covered in smelly and dirty hair?"
},
{
"poster": 3046369,
"content": ">>3046367 >Or would you eat a delicacy covered in smelly and dirty hair? body hair keeps dirt and smell away longer actually"
},
{
"poster": 3046393,
"content": ">>2996182 a year late but me too he's a true DILF"
},
{
"poster": 3046419,
"content": ">>3046334 >hurr durr muh wymyn shave yourself, monke"
},
{
"poster": 3046580,
"content": ">>3046579 hot"
}
] |
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| 3,022,853
|
[
{
"poster": 3028850,
"content": "wxhvwt"
},
{
"poster": 3028980,
"content": ">>3028862 gyatt need more like this"
},
{
"poster": 3029056,
"content": ">>3028980 >gyatt shut the fuck up pic obviously unrelated"
},
{
"poster": 3029058,
"content": ">>3029056 Nta but GYATT this boi got me wildin’ fr, finna pop some diamonds."
},
{
"poster": 3031477,
"content": ">>3027851 perfection"
},
{
"poster": 3033800,
"content": ">>3030971 do u have the name of this one?"
},
{
"poster": 3033818,
"content": ">>3032239 hot af don't care how gay it makes me"
},
{
"poster": 3035911,
"content": ">>3033818 Based"
},
{
"poster": 3037787,
"content": ">>3031986 Sauce? Very hot"
},
{
"poster": 3037788,
"content": ">>3037787 mgarts69 just be warned that a lot of their stuff is massive size difference and belly bulging"
},
{
"poster": 3040712,
"content": ">>3040038 Hemipenises are so based"
},
{
"poster": 3040983,
"content": ">>3040038 salsa?"
},
{
"poster": 3045286,
"content": ">you will never an hypotized slave to hug you tenderly"
},
{
"poster": 3045821,
"content": ">>3043820 nice"
}
] |
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| 3,023,095
|
[
{
"poster": 3023095,
"content": "post catboys, let's go."
},
{
"poster": 3023303,
"content": ">>3023095 Let us hope they don't eat my dead body after my passing alone and in my house."
},
{
"poster": 3024392,
"content": ">>3023095 >>3023303 you must post more than that"
},
{
"poster": 3024859,
"content": ">>3024392"
},
{
"poster": 3024972,
"content": ">>3024904 ...where are their balls?"
},
{
"poster": 3024978,
"content": "Who the fuck keeps posting this dog shit art"
},
{
"poster": 3025021,
"content": "I'd fuck a femboy catboy so hard if I could... They would be wrapped around my cock every time I see them"
},
{
"poster": 3025092,
"content": ">>3024972 They were neutered."
},
{
"poster": 3025268,
"content": ">>3024972 >not fixing your cats baka bro"
},
{
"poster": 3025271,
"content": ">>3024859 i love this photo bro, its literally perfect"
},
{
"poster": 3025387,
"content": ">>3025092 Thats hot!"
},
{
"poster": 3026970,
"content": ">>3026955 More?"
},
{
"poster": 3027028,
"content": ">>3026970 There's only one other and it's on the pixiv url in the filename, sorry."
},
{
"poster": 3027038,
"content": "And something a little more masc."
},
{
"poster": 3027318,
"content": ">mfw tried finding jp bara catboys and they don't exist or are furry Oh well."
},
{
"poster": 3027325,
"content": ">>3027318 the content is really good so far, i just wish the OP were less ugly"
},
{
"poster": 3027326,
"content": ">>3024978 The same str8oid karen derailing the drawthread"
},
{
"poster": 3027456,
"content": "Oh she’s ban evading again lovely."
},
{
"poster": 3027457,
"content": ">>3027456 Please don't give fujokaren attention in any form, even if it's not a direct reply."
},
{
"poster": 3027551,
"content": ">>3024904 >>3024905 >>3024914 >>3026270 >>3026771 >>3027067 >>3027506 good food"
},
{
"poster": 3027762,
"content": ">>3026955 catboy like this but covered in string"
},
{
"poster": 3028273,
"content": "Dogboys rule this thread"
},
{
"poster": 3028319,
"content": ">>3028273 Both're slaves to their owner's cum."
},
{
"poster": 3028475,
"content": ">>3023095 moar?"
},
{
"poster": 3028477,
"content": ">>3028475"
},
{
"poster": 3028478,
"content": ">>3028477 nice"
},
{
"poster": 3028925,
"content": ">>3024914 I thought this was supposed to be \"Cat Boy\" Not Cat Girl"
},
{
"poster": 3028956,
"content": ">>3028925 that's a flaccid penis not a massive swollen vagina tumor"
},
{
"poster": 3029600,
"content": "Are cat boy ears sensitive?"
},
{
"poster": 3029762,
"content": ">>3029600 The tail is more."
},
{
"poster": 3030340,
"content": ">>3030277 Xiao?"
},
{
"poster": 3030860,
"content": ">>3027029 >origin material looks nothing like this damn it"
},
{
"poster": 3030973,
"content": ">>3028925 retard"
},
{
"poster": 3032300,
"content": ">>3032217 yummy chococate"
},
{
"poster": 3032422,
"content": ">>3031898 cute"
},
{
"poster": 3032492,
"content": "cute thread"
},
{
"poster": 3033458,
"content": "catboy vtubers are a blessing"
},
{
"poster": 3033517,
"content": ">>3033458 Who is the bottom?"
},
{
"poster": 3033752,
"content": ">>3033517 fisky, a catboy vtuber"
},
{
"poster": 3034837,
"content": "cat"
},
{
"poster": 3034995,
"content": ">>3023303 i hate that people imply thats a bad thing. at that point id be dead, what do i care? id actually be happier if my cats ate my body, since it would buy them more time for someone to come investigate and find three hungry cats and a half eaten body. cemetaries and human death rituals are retarded. let your pets eat your corpse, not that youd have a say anyway"
},
{
"poster": 3035348,
"content": "I <3 catboys"
},
{
"poster": 3035655,
"content": ">>3028956 Biologically speaking, there's less difference between those two than you might think. There were actually some girls in South America that were growing dicks upon hitting puberty because they were actually genetically boys but missed a hormone wash boys are supposed to get in the womb before birth, but then around 12ish once puberty sets in they get what was supposed to be their second hit of that hormone and their body caught up. They've got probably the closest to Omegaverse \"penis and prostate but with a womb and their balls on the inside\" thing going on as can be achieved in the real world. But yeah, dick are basically just mutant clits."
},
{
"poster": 3035656,
"content": ">>3035655 That's a bit of a bastardized take on intersex disorders and natal sex selection, you're not entirely wrong but everyone is still either male or female regardless of chromosomal and gonadal abnormalities. Sex, in ambiguity, is always determined by which reproductive organs are more fully formed. True hermaphroditism isn't occurring in humans. Not really a discussion for a porn thread though. Also.. the character that started this is fully male, external testes and incapable of pregnancy. You can literally see his testicles under the string and his cock under the panty. Pic related."
},
{
"poster": 3035680,
"content": ">>3035655 >>3035656 Proof that catboy enjoyers are massively autistic"
},
{
"poster": 3035688,
"content": ">>3035680 if you arent autistic you belong on reddit"
},
{
"poster": 3035967,
"content": ">>3035680 True on all counts, luckily the 'tism somehow attracts bottoms like flies."
},
{
"poster": 3036486,
"content": ">>3023095"
},
{
"poster": 3037282,
"content": ">>3036852 cute expression"
},
{
"poster": 3038520,
"content": ">>3033409 Fuck, that’s hot. I want to make love to him all night and all day long"
},
{
"poster": 3040982,
"content": ">>3040708 Wow? What from?"
},
{
"poster": 3041143,
"content": ">>3040982 huh ? the signature is there"
},
{
"poster": 3043884,
"content": "good thread"
},
{
"poster": 3043947,
"content": ">>3034995 what's stupid is them ignoring that every creature including humans will eat whatever they can rather than starve, the physical body isnt the person anyway >>3035655 >dick are basically just mutant clits. literally the opposite, retard, btw its funny and pathetic how most women need clit stimulation to cum"
},
{
"poster": 3043949,
"content": ">>3043947 >btw its funny and pathetic how most women need clit stimulation to cum I don't get the rabid hate for women on here, it's really bizarre and forced."
},
{
"poster": 3045270,
"content": "not porn but it made me horny"
},
{
"poster": 3046794,
"content": "real talk, would catboys have spikes on their dicks like real cats"
},
{
"poster": 3046795,
"content": ">>3046794 I've seen this a couple times but on futa, and futa is kinda yucky"
},
{
"poster": 3046798,
"content": ">>3046794 >>3046795 imagine bumping a dead thread just to post this shit"
},
{
"poster": 3046800,
"content": ">>3046798 it's a legit question! they got cat ears, cat tails, and presumably some feline behavior, so would they have the spikes on their dicks or nah?"
},
{
"poster": 3046802,
"content": ">>3046800 the only purpose those barbs serve is for mating and impregnating if the thought of your anus being shredded and the bacteria in it giving you sepsis is hot then good on you bro no they wouldn't have any"
}
] |
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| 3,027,896
|
[
{
"poster": 3027896,
"content": "i dont understand how someone who has lead a whole rebellion, killed and manipulated even close friends and family, has the POWER to MAKE YOU OBEY ALWAYS BE DRAWN AS A BOTTOM???? i need lelouch to be drawn as a DOM plz ...and more yaoi"
},
{
"poster": 3027911,
"content": "They take turns fucking each other. You technically are also supposed to do 5 images to start a thread but I'll help you out."
},
{
"poster": 3027922,
"content": "I heavily agree with you OP, Lelouch is way hotter as a dom and not a weepy sub who clenches his ass cheeks the second Suzaku steps into the room. Just my personal taste though"
},
{
"poster": 3027999,
"content": "There isn’t enough of Lelouch x Rolo, so painfully underrated."
},
{
"poster": 3028270,
"content": ">>3027999 Rolo>>>>>>>Suzaku"
},
{
"poster": 3028793,
"content": "Is there even enough yaoi of this show to fill a thread lmao"
},
{
"poster": 3029369,
"content": ">>3028793 Definitely not but we can try."
},
{
"poster": 3029561,
"content": ">>3028793 of sub lelouch? yea"
},
{
"poster": 3029608,
"content": ">>3029561 Post some?"
},
{
"poster": 3029743,
"content": ">>3027964 Rolo deserved better..."
},
{
"poster": 3030238,
"content": "lelouch is a beta bitch"
},
{
"poster": 3030319,
"content": ">>3030238 Rolo was even more beta so there should be more fanart of him getting pounded by Lalooshie."
},
{
"poster": 3032052,
"content": ">>3027897 nice"
},
{
"poster": 3032871,
"content": ">>3032760 Very sexy."
},
{
"poster": 3034863,
"content": ">>3027897 cute rolo.. built for ryona.. uoh"
},
{
"poster": 3038324,
"content": ">>3033937 Source?"
},
{
"poster": 3039382,
"content": ">>3038324 tachibanaei"
},
{
"poster": 3039510,
"content": ">>3030886 Would love more oral fixation shit like this, it's really hot."
},
{
"poster": 3039968,
"content": "bump"
},
{
"poster": 3040987,
"content": ">>3040710 I like it except for the suck face"
},
{
"poster": 3042195,
"content": "more"
},
{
"poster": 3042387,
"content": ">>3042360 I've heard of legs for days, but this is ridiculous..."
},
{
"poster": 3042551,
"content": "Reminder that his underwear canonically looks like this."
},
{
"poster": 3043287,
"content": ">>3042551 So do his hips"
},
{
"poster": 3046403,
"content": ">>3030119 I like how different their bodies are here. it was always weird how Suzaku could do flying backflip kicks while, lelouch called his own body weak but then they just looked the same"
}
] |
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| 3,031,515
|
[
{
"poster": 3031518,
"content": "Yuta X Togo is really cute. I wish they had more stuff especially more translated doujinshi."
},
{
"poster": 3031523,
"content": ">>3031518"
},
{
"poster": 3031524,
"content": "Does anyone have anymore Yuji Yuta ?"
},
{
"poster": 3031527,
"content": "ya"
},
{
"poster": 3031528,
"content": ">>3031527 meant to reply to >>3031518"
},
{
"poster": 3031559,
"content": ">>3031518 >>3031523 >>3031527 >>3031528 more!"
},
{
"poster": 3031742,
"content": ">>3031559"
},
{
"poster": 3032465,
"content": ">>3031515 My time has come"
},
{
"poster": 3032466,
"content": ">>3032465"
},
{
"poster": 3032653,
"content": ">///<"
},
{
"poster": 3032974,
"content": ">>3031524"
},
{
"poster": 3032976,
"content": "Big dick nii-chan"
},
{
"poster": 3032977,
"content": ">>3032974"
},
{
"poster": 3037371,
"content": "Please share if you have some art of Gojo getting raped"
},
{
"poster": 3037373,
"content": ">>3037371"
},
{
"poster": 3037411,
"content": ">>3037410 If anyone has this artist's stuff uncensored (especially Nanami pics) that'd be awesome"
},
{
"poster": 3037520,
"content": ">>3037380 get this tranny shit out of here"
},
{
"poster": 3037662,
"content": "I want the agenda to spread"
},
{
"poster": 3040651,
"content": ">>3037663 >>3039215 More bjs"
},
{
"poster": 3040869,
"content": ">>3032980 Sauce?"
},
{
"poster": 3041664,
"content": "i faped to this"
},
{
"poster": 3042509,
"content": ">>3039213 >>3039215 FARMER SEXOOOO!!!"
},
{
"poster": 3042730,
"content": ">>3042708 Cute transgirl HRT titties~ Her feminine breasts look so sensitive..!"
}
] |
y
| 3,032,923
|
[
{
"poster": 3032923,
"content": "The last thread reached its limit so lets continue here."
},
{
"poster": 3033119,
"content": "I'm gonna draw Astarion lewds, any prompts?"
},
{
"poster": 3033175,
"content": ">>3033119 Doing that slinky cat thing that he does in the graveyard scene."
},
{
"poster": 3033199,
"content": ">>3033119 standing in the magical/luminous pond inviting to fuck?"
},
{
"poster": 3033500,
"content": ">>3033437 >>3033436 clearly not Baldur's gate"
},
{
"poster": 3033510,
"content": ">dude im so powerful and amazing i fucked the goddess of magic >im like not as powerful now (reasons) haha thats why im level 1 Garbage gary stu character"
},
{
"poster": 3033512,
"content": ">>3033510 That's just life in the Realms anon."
},
{
"poster": 3033741,
"content": "can't wait for the doujins"
},
{
"poster": 3033766,
"content": ">>3033582 Ugly pooner art hiding the cocks they’re jealous of."
},
{
"poster": 3033973,
"content": ">>3033967 >>3033766"
},
{
"poster": 3033995,
"content": ">>3033766 No you're not bringing this shit into the new thread I forbid it"
},
{
"poster": 3033998,
"content": ">>3033997"
},
{
"poster": 3034053,
"content": ">>3032923 what is it with you fucks using the ugliest shit possible for the op posts"
},
{
"poster": 3034670,
"content": "Too much woman art, need dicks."
},
{
"poster": 3034754,
"content": "Here you go."
},
{
"poster": 3035242,
"content": ">>3034754 lmao"
},
{
"poster": 3035334,
"content": ">no Minsc again Sometimes I think only women play this game. It's not possible that any gay artist didn't notice Minsc"
},
{
"poster": 3035405,
"content": ">>3035334"
},
{
"poster": 3035534,
"content": ">>3035355 So hot. What's the source? Is there more?"
},
{
"poster": 3035535,
"content": ">>3035334 >Sometimes I think only women play this game As if therampant tumblr sexyman art style in this thread weren't enough to confirm that."
},
{
"poster": 3035603,
"content": ">>3033510 He got his magic sucked out by the orb. Just like how I want to suck his dick to release the magic in his orbs."
},
{
"poster": 3035632,
"content": ">>3035603"
},
{
"poster": 3036220,
"content": "need more Wyll preferably getting fucked imo"
},
{
"poster": 3036262,
"content": ">>3036220"
},
{
"poster": 3036429,
"content": ">>3036413 Glad I'm not the only one who thought about this..."
},
{
"poster": 3036577,
"content": "Love all the whining in this thread with no contributions. Glad to see at least that hasnt changed in all these years."
},
{
"poster": 3036716,
"content": ">>3035606 Holy based, that's hot"
},
{
"poster": 3036907,
"content": "God I need more like this"
},
{
"poster": 3037031,
"content": ">>3036971 this is the best I've seen in a while."
},
{
"poster": 3037036,
"content": "Is the drider too /d/ for here?"
},
{
"poster": 3037142,
"content": ">>3037036 no?"
},
{
"poster": 3037151,
"content": ">>3037036 Driders don't have sex organs, unfortunately, and most artists draw him with fem tavs, or feminize him"
},
{
"poster": 3037557,
"content": "this is so fucking hot, tysm for this, nutted so good"
},
{
"poster": 3037562,
"content": ">>3037036 No post some so I can nut."
},
{
"poster": 3038226,
"content": "this thread is literally just woman art, none of it is sexual at all"
},
{
"poster": 3038238,
"content": ">>3038226 you're not only annoying as fuck but also retarded"
},
{
"poster": 3038420,
"content": "Laubritter blessing us again"
},
{
"poster": 3038526,
"content": ">>3038226 Shut the fuck up faggot"
},
{
"poster": 3038755,
"content": "Hentai?"
},
{
"poster": 3038756,
"content": ">>3032923 >Yaoi for lesbians"
},
{
"poster": 3038848,
"content": ">>3038847 Who's the artist? That is stunning."
},
{
"poster": 3038851,
"content": ">>3038848 Sorry for the delay. Here you go. https://twitter.com/chajuWAO/status /1707722216086077627"
},
{
"poster": 3038870,
"content": ">>3038851 Thank you, anon!"
},
{
"poster": 3039536,
"content": ">>3032923 >>3032923 Bro, I wanna see Jesus like this."
},
{
"poster": 3039537,
"content": ">>3039536 ?"
},
{
"poster": 3039538,
"content": ">>3039535 >>3039536 pig"
},
{
"poster": 3039862,
"content": "My god this artist is incredible."
},
{
"poster": 3040330,
"content": "Roastie porn thread lolz."
},
{
"poster": 3041198,
"content": ">>3033741 anyone got the source for this?"
},
{
"poster": 3042229,
"content": ">>3041274 >>3041274"
},
{
"poster": 3042286,
"content": ">>3042229 but this thread hasnt reached its limit. Is it better to continue here or there?"
},
{
"poster": 3042287,
"content": ">>3042286 nta but it doesn't matter the other one has a much better op image though"
},
{
"poster": 3042305,
"content": ">>3038756 >>3040330 Shut the fuck up faggot"
},
{
"poster": 3042306,
"content": ">>3042305 Control your flappy beef curtains!"
},
{
"poster": 3042381,
"content": ">>3038847 Gale's suckable toes"
},
{
"poster": 3042401,
"content": ">>3042287 >much better op image >someone's goofy ass tav is half of it and astarion looks inbred no???"
},
{
"poster": 3042411,
"content": ">>3042401 seething roastie"
},
{
"poster": 3042458,
"content": ">>3042401 Shove it up your asshole freak."
},
{
"poster": 3042640,
"content": ">>3042639 She’s so valid and canonically trans!"
},
{
"poster": 3042643,
"content": ">>3042639 Cute girl with a little clit~"
},
{
"poster": 3042648,
"content": ">>3042411 no u"
},
{
"poster": 3042651,
"content": ">>3042648 Can I try your pussy I’ve never fucked a chick pretending to be a dude before"
},
{
"poster": 3042673,
"content": ">>3042640 https://twitter.com/frostlorn/statu s/1774987157108593114 we stan a trans kang"
},
{
"poster": 3042728,
"content": ">>3042725 Feed that transgirl your cock! Yes!!!"
},
{
"poster": 3042856,
"content": ">>3042719 Thanks anon, sauce please?"
},
{
"poster": 3042893,
"content": "Too girly"
},
{
"poster": 3042894,
"content": ">>3042892 Why are they drawn like grandmas?"
},
{
"poster": 3043061,
"content": ">>3042856 Sorry for the delay. https://twitter.com/5altybitter5/st atus/1774393790956224734#m https://poipiku.com/3076546/1007085 4.html"
},
{
"poster": 3043065,
"content": "Can you idiots get out of the Baldur's Gate thread, there are plenty of others for you to froth over."
},
{
"poster": 3043629,
"content": "Sorry for req but does anyone have more Gortash, please?"
},
{
"poster": 3044498,
"content": ">>3044483 nigga, that's a female character with astarion"
},
{
"poster": 3044499,
"content": ">>3044498 there's cuntboys itt what's your point"
},
{
"poster": 3044501,
"content": ">>3044499 no, this one it's literally a cis female, you can check for yourself: twitter.com/mlarty_art"
},
{
"poster": 3044526,
"content": ">>3044501 I was fine with not knowing and imagining the Tav as a twink, thanks."
},
{
"poster": 3044529,
"content": ">>3044501 that’s one ugly woman"
},
{
"poster": 3044625,
"content": ">>3044529 My bad, genuinely didnt know."
},
{
"poster": 3045326,
"content": "Can someone who plays BG3 post an uncensored screenshot of Astarion's naked fullbody? I know the game has nudity including genetalia and I want to see what he looks like in the actual game."
},
{
"poster": 3045620,
"content": ">>3045326 Sorry for the late reply but here's a few screengrabs I got."
},
{
"poster": 3045622,
"content": ">>3045326 Here's more on the way."
},
{
"poster": 3045765,
"content": "what a slut he is in game based larian for giving us this semen-drinking Vampire"
},
{
"poster": 3046090,
"content": ">>3046089"
},
{
"poster": 3046246,
"content": ">>3045679 Gale x Astarion GOAT"
},
{
"poster": 3046247,
"content": ">>3046089 >>3046090 >>3046163 >>3046246 honestly, i need a mod that lets me rape raphael after i win his faggot musical boss fight"
},
{
"poster": 3046248,
"content": ">>3046239 sorry meant to quote this one"
},
{
"poster": 3046324,
"content": ">>3046246 Good keyword for finding content is 'bloodweave'"
},
{
"poster": 3046345,
"content": "Would you risk it, anon?"
},
{
"poster": 3046479,
"content": ">>3046345 yes"
},
{
"poster": 3046483,
"content": ">>3046482 morrree"
},
{
"poster": 3046484,
"content": ">>3044764 >>3044765 >>3044766 >>3044767 >>3046253 >>3046254 best picks in the theread"
},
{
"poster": 3046485,
"content": ">>3046483"
},
{
"poster": 3046487,
"content": ">>3046485 lucky"
},
{
"poster": 3046490,
"content": ">>3046486 >>3046488 >>3046489 vary sexy can you post more"
},
{
"poster": 3046492,
"content": ">>3046490 Yea"
},
{
"poster": 3046493,
"content": ">>3046492 thxx"
},
{
"poster": 3046495,
"content": "Finally some gay porn."
},
{
"poster": 3046496,
"content": ">>3046493 No problem"
},
{
"poster": 3046499,
"content": ">>3046498 Yum."
},
{
"poster": 3046505,
"content": ">>3046495 \"finally some gay porn\" >bunch of souless generic AI shit"
},
{
"poster": 3046514,
"content": ">>3046505 see >>3042401"
},
{
"poster": 3046753,
"content": ">>3046345 I require the sauce"
},
{
"poster": 3046756,
"content": ">>3046565 >>3046670 mm cuntbois"
},
{
"poster": 3046763,
"content": ">>3046753 @rmandraws1 on twitter"
},
{
"poster": 3046770,
"content": "nigga stop posting here and go to the new thread"
},
{
"poster": 3046822,
"content": ">>3046770 No. We like AI OPs. We want more AI OPs."
},
{
"poster": 3046892,
"content": ">>3046770 Last time I got called on for starting new thread without the last one reaching image limit."
},
{
"poster": 3046909,
"content": ">>3046892 it was because it hadnt reached bump limit"
},
{
"poster": 3046922,
"content": "Sorry that there's a pussy boy Astarion in the mix... the rest is just too good and at least there's no retarded top surgery scars. One can imagine magic was simply used to temporarily change his genitals for a client because Caz would probably find that amusing. He has a cock elsewhere in the sketches. The facial expressions and body language are just too good."
},
{
"poster": 3047099,
"content": ">>3046983 And the last one going in!"
},
{
"poster": 3047209,
"content": ">>3047099 oops still not reached image limit"
},
{
"poster": 3047949,
"content": "is there anyone brave enough to draw Blurg or Gortash, or even Omeluum getting railed?"
}
] |
y
| 3,034,908
|
[
{
"poster": 3034908,
"content": "Hey! I am looking for the source of where this image came from and I cannot find it anywhere. this is where I found it initially years ago. but also just a bad anatomy thread seems fun!"
},
{
"poster": 3035203,
"content": ">>3034908"
},
{
"poster": 3035207,
"content": "quality"
},
{
"poster": 3035215,
"content": ">>3035203 The Legend."
},
{
"poster": 3035930,
"content": "lol"
},
{
"poster": 3035935,
"content": "On that note does somebody know the source of this one too?"
},
{
"poster": 3036023,
"content": ">>3034908 You guys must check on Samurai Fantasy"
},
{
"poster": 3036024,
"content": "Yes, this was drawn bad on purpose."
},
{
"poster": 3037717,
"content": ">>3035930 lmao"
},
{
"poster": 3039764,
"content": ">>3036294 Long yaoi is long"
},
{
"poster": 3040939,
"content": ">>3034908 This is so cursed lol"
},
{
"poster": 3043260,
"content": ">>3041739 lmao"
},
{
"poster": 3045199,
"content": ">>3035930 Bad anatomy, sex, and edge. What a combo."
},
{
"poster": 3046429,
"content": "an oldie but a goodie"
},
{
"poster": 3046431,
"content": ">>3046429 Skinny penis"
}
] |
y
| 3,037,418
|
[
{
"poster": 3037418,
"content": "might be kind of a long shot, but does anyone have this deathnote game from ages ago? i was only able to hunt down chinese tled scans of the accompanying promo booklet https://kaostic.livejournal.com/403 050.html lj is long dead but there was a tumblr linked so i tried getting in contact with the uploader back in 2021 but they never responded"
},
{
"poster": 3039108,
"content": "I found something that might be it, but it's in a zip file with a password. What do lol"
},
{
"poster": 3039754,
"content": ">>3039108 can I see it? I might be able to bruteforce"
},
{
"poster": 3041008,
"content": ">>3039108 >>3039754 Still here?"
},
{
"poster": 3042800,
"content": ">>3041008 yeah, can you post the file"
},
{
"poster": 3043838,
"content": ">>3042800 posting one more time in hopes anon replies then letting this die"
}
] |
y
| 3,039,734
|
[
{
"poster": 3040734,
"content": ">>3040277 deserved"
},
{
"poster": 3041337,
"content": ">>3040734 yeah I would have liked to see him be more humiliated where he had a scene with confusing memories asking Gigi to please give me more instead of Bambi it's a shame Gigi didn't break him like she did with Bambi."
},
{
"poster": 3043173,
"content": ">>3039736 >>3039738 So, Quincies are queers?"
}
] |
y
| 3,040,372
|
[
{
"poster": 3040372,
"content": "anyone has yaoi recommandations with femboys? like High School Boy and Suicide Boy by Park Gee"
},
{
"poster": 3040451,
"content": "yaoi/porn or bl?"
},
{
"poster": 3040860,
"content": ">>3040451 all bro... ill take anything"
},
{
"poster": 3040871,
"content": ">>3040372 Does Suicide Boy have romance at all? I haven't read it in several years. Or did you just use it as an example of a femboy?"
},
{
"poster": 3040978,
"content": ">>3040860 Koisuru (Otome) no Tsukurikata Honey Maple More More Sugar"
},
{
"poster": 3041219,
"content": ">>3040871 i used it as an exemple"
},
{
"poster": 3041221,
"content": ">>3040605 >h sauce bro?"
},
{
"poster": 3041227,
"content": ">>3041221 Filename is the URL https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/1 05209747 4chanx also lets you auto redirect to pixiv filenames"
},
{
"poster": 3041858,
"content": ">>3040372 wouldn't call hooni a femboy"
},
{
"poster": 3042066,
"content": ">>3041858 He’s a naturally effeminate looking boy thus a femboy. A hairy gymrat putting on a dress doesn’t make it a femboy, femboys are just soft twinks."
},
{
"poster": 3042459,
"content": ">>3040372 Leon from Dark Fall manwha"
},
{
"poster": 3044146,
"content": ">>3040871 how the fuck is he a femboy?"
},
{
"poster": 3044152,
"content": ">>3044146 How are you still hung up on this, autismo?"
},
{
"poster": 3044186,
"content": ">>3041858 lol"
},
{
"poster": 3044220,
"content": ">>3042066 >A hairy gymrat putting on a dress doesn’t make it a femboy, It’s over"
},
{
"poster": 3044412,
"content": ">>3044186 so femmy"
},
{
"poster": 3046462,
"content": ">>3042311 This little bitch needs to be put in his place"
}
] |
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