[MR. FRANK]31LOC[MR. FRANK] Thank32VVthank you33PPyou ,34,, Mr35NPMr .36SENT. Chief37NPChief Justice38NPJustice ,39,, and40CCand may41MDmay it42PPit please43VVplease the44DTthe Court45NPCourt :46:: Amchem47NPAmchem instructs48VVZinstruct that49IN/thatthat courts50NNScourt should51MDshould interpret52VVinterpret Rule53NPRule 2354CD@card@ with55INwith the56DTthe interests57NNSinterest of58INof absent59JJabsent class60NNclass members61NNSmember in62INin close63JJclose view64NNview .65SENT. The66DTthe best67JJSgood way68NNway to69TOto interpret70VVinterpret Rule71NPRule 2372CD@card@ 's73POS's text74NNtext requiring75VVGrequire settlements76NNSsettlement be77VBbe fair78JJfair and79CCand reasonable80JJreasonable is81VBZbe to82TOto align83VValign class84NNclass counsel85NNcounsel 's86POS's interests87NNSinterest with88INwith those89DTthose of90INof the91DTthe absent92JJabsent class93NNclass members94NNSmember .95SENT. In96INin Deposit97NPDeposit Guaranty98NPGuaranty versus99CCversus Roper100NPRoper at101INat page102NNpage 339103CD@card@ ,104,, this105DTthis Court106NPCourt called107VVDcall it108PPit an109DTan abuse110NNabuse when111WRBwhen class112NNclass members113NNSmember were114VBDbe not115RBnot the116DTthe primary117JJprimary beneficiaries118NNSbeneficiary of119INof a120DTa class121NNclass action122NNaction .123SENT. How124WRBHow can125MDcan it126PPit be127VBbe fair128JJfair and129CCand reasonable130JJreasonable for131INfor a132DTa court133NNcourt to134TOto endorse135VVendorse such136PDTsuch an137DTan abuse138NNabuse ?139SENT? [JUSTICE GINSBURG]140LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG] Why141WRBwhy is142VBZbe it143PPit an144DTan abuse145NNabuse ?146SENT? Because147RBbecause ,148,, practically149RBpractically ,150,, the151DTthe class152NNclass members153NNSmember would154MDwould get155VVget nothing156NNnothing ,157,, nothing158NNnothing at159INat all160DTall ,161,, and162CCand ,163,, here164RBhere ,165,, at166INat least167JJSleast they168PPthey get169VVPget an170DTan indirect171JJindirect benefit172NNbenefit .173SENT. [MR. FRANK]174LOC[MR. FRANK] Well175UHWell ,176,, the177DTthe indirect178JJindirect benefit179NNbenefit is180VBZbe even181RBeven less182JJRless than183INthan nothing184NNnothing .185SENT. The186DTthe ...187:... it188PPit was189VBDbe feasible190JJfeasible to191TOto distribute192VVdistribute money193NNmoney to194TOto class195NNclass members196NNSmember .197SENT. And198CCand ,199,, instead200RBinstead ,201,, class202NNclass counsel203NNcounsel chose204VVDchoose to205TOto agree206VVagree to207TOto a208DTa settlement209NNsettlement that210WDTthat directed211VVDdirect that212DTthat money213NNmoney elsewhere214RBelsewhere .215SENT. [JUSTICE GINSBURG]216LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG] How217WRBHow much218RBmuch would219MDwould it220PPit have221VHPhave come222VVNcome to223TOto for224INfor each225DTeach class226NNclass member227NNmember ?228SENT? [MR. FRANK]229LOC[MR. FRANK] Each230DTeach claiming231VVGclaim class232NNclass member233NNmember probably234RBprobably could235MDcould have236VHhave gotten237VVNget between238INbetween five239CDfive and240CCand 10241CD@card@ dollars242NNSdollar with243INwith typical244JJtypical claims245NNSclaim rates246NNSrate if247INif ...248:... for249INfor example250NNexample ,251,, in252INin the253DTthe Fraley254NPFraley versus255CCversus Facebook256NPFacebook settlement257NNsettlement ,258,, the259DTthe court260NNcourt rejected261VVDreject an262DTan all263RBall cy264NNcy pres265NNSpres settlement266NNsettlement ...267:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]268LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] Sorry269RBsorry .270SENT. There271EXthere 's272VBZbe an273DTan amicus274NNamicus brief275NNbrief that276WDTthat talked277VVDtalk ...278:... who279WPwho laid280VVDlay out281RPout pretty282RBpretty thoroughly283RBthoroughly the284DTthe costs285NNScost associated286VVNassociate with287INwith ,288,, first289RBfirst ,290,, identifying291VVGidentify the292DTthe class293NNclass ;294:; second295JJsecond ,296,, preparing297VVGprepare the298DTthe mailing299NNmailing ;300:; third301JJthird ,302,, executing303VVGexecute the304DTthe mailing305NNmailing ;306:; and307CCand then308RBthen processing309VVGprocess the310DTthe claims311NNSclaim that312WDTthat came313VVDcome up314RPup with315INwith a316DTa figure317NNfigure of318INof 67319CD@card@ cents320NNScent .321SENT. Now322RBnow ,323,, putting324VVGput aside325RBaside that326IN/thatthat there327EXthere may328MDmay be329VBbe a330DTa question331NNquestion about332RBabout whether333INwhether the334DTthe trial335NNtrial court336NNcourt adequately337RBadequately determined338VVNdetermine feasibility339NNfeasibility ,340,, but341CCbut assuming342VVGassume it343PPit did344VVDdo ,345,, why346WRBwhy would347MDwould it348PPit have349VHhave been350VBNbe an351DTan abuse352NNabuse of353INof discretion354NNdiscretion for355INfor the356DTthe court357NNcourt to358TOto believe359VVbelieve that360DTthat processing361NNprocessing 67362CD@card@ cents363NNScent did364VVDdo n't365RBn't make366VVmake sense367NNsense because368INbecause the369DTthe cost370NNcost would371MDwould outweigh372VVoutweigh what373WPwhat they374PPthey would375MDwould pay376VVpay ?377SENT? [MR. FRANK]378LOC[MR. FRANK] Well379UHWell ,380,, the381DTthe district382NNdistrict court383NNcourt applied384VVDapply the385DTthe wrong386JJwrong legal387JJlegal standard388NNstandard ,389,, but390CCbut ...391:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]392LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] No393UHNo ,394,, no395UHno .396SENT. I397PPI know398VVPknow your399PP$your standard400NNstandard for401INfor feasibility402NNfeasibility ...403:... [MR. FRANK]404LOC[MR. FRANK] Right405NPRight ,406,, right407RBright .408SENT. [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]409LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] ...410:... is411VBZbe can412MDcan we413PPwe give414VVPgive percent415NNpercent of416INof the417DTthe class418NNclass something419NNsomething even420RBeven if421INif nobody422NNnobody else423RBelse gets424VVZget anything425NNanything ,426,, meaning427VVGmean what428WPwhat you429PPyou would430MDwould like431VVlike to432TOto do433VVdo is434VBZbe select435VVselect 10436CD@card@ percent437NNpercent of438INof the439DTthe class440NNclass and441CCand pay442VVpay them443PPthem alone444RBalone and445CCand do446VVdo nothing447NNnothing for448INfor everybody449NNeverybody else450RBelse .451SENT. [MR. FRANK]452LOC[MR. FRANK] Well453UHWell ,454,, no455UHno .456SENT. We457PPwe would458MDwould like459VVlike to460TOto give461VVgive everybody462NNeverybody in463INin the464DTthe class465NNclass the466DTthe opportunity467NNopportunity to468TOto make469VVmake a470DTa claim471NNclaim .472SENT. And473CCand in474INin practice475NNpractice ,476,, a477DTa very478RBvery small479JJsmall minority480NNminority of481INof the482DTthe class483NNclass would484MDwould not485RBnot be486VBbe indifferent487JJindifferent to488TOto the489DTthe opportunity490NNopportunity ,491,, and492CCand typically493RBtypically ...494:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]495LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] Everybody496NNEverybody else497RBelse would498MDwould receive499VVreceive not500RBnot even501RBeven an502DTan indirect503JJindirect benefit504NNbenefit ?505SENT? [MR. FRANK]506LOC[MR. FRANK] No507NPNo ,508,, they509PPthey would510MDwould receive511VVreceive the512DTthe opportunity513NNopportunity to514TOto make515VVmake a516DTa claim517NNclaim ...518:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]519LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] They520PPthey always521RBalways have522VHPhave that523DTthat opportunity524NNopportunity .525SENT. [MR. FRANK]526LOC[MR. FRANK] They527PPthey do528VVPdo n't529RBn't have530VHhave that531DTthat opportunity532NNopportunity here533RBhere as534INas a535DTa class536NNclass member537NNmember .538SENT. Class539NNclass members540NNSmember were541VBDbe deprived542VVNdeprive of543INof that544DTthat opportunity545NNopportunity .546SENT. [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]547LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] They548PPthey could549MDcould opt550VVopt out551RPout .552SENT. [MR. FRANK]553LOC[MR. FRANK] They554PPthey could555MDcould opt556VVopt out557RPout in558INin Amchem559NPAmchem also560RBalso ,561,, but562CCbut that563WDTthat did564VVDdo n't565RBn't make566VVmake the567DTthe settlement568NNsettlement fair569NNfair .570SENT. [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]571LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] But572CCbut I573PPI go574VVPgo back575RBback to576TOto my577PP$my point578NNpoint ,579,, which580WDTwhich is581VBZbe are582VBPbe you583PPyou disputing584VVGdispute the585DTthe finding586NNfinding of587INof fact588NNfact that589IN/thatthat under590INunder the591DTthe normal592JJnormal application593NNapplication of594INof feasibility595NNfeasibility ,596,, whether597INwhether cost598NNcost outweighs599VVZoutweigh the600DTthe payment601NNpayment or602CCor cost603NNcost far604RBfar exceeds605VVZexceed whatever606WDTwhatever could607MDcould be608VBbe given609VVNgive out610RPout ,611,, is612VBZbe that613DTthat ...614:... are615VBPbe you616PPyou disputing617VVGdispute that618DTthat ?619SENT? [MR. FRANK]620LOC[MR. FRANK] The621DTthe court622NNcourt never623RBnever made624VVDmake that625IN/thatthat finding626VVGfind .627SENT. The628DTthe court629NNcourt applied630VVDapply the631DTthe Ninth632JJninth Circu633NPCircu it634PPit 's635VBZbe de636NPde minimis637NPminimis test638NNtest under639INunder Lane640NPLane versus641CCversus Facebook642NPFacebook ,643,, which644WDTwhich required645VVDrequire it646PPit to647TOto divide648VVdivide by649INby the650DTthe entire651JJentire denominator652NNdenominator the653DTthe entire654JJentire class655NNclass .656SENT. In657INin reality658NNreality ,659,, settlements660NNSsettlement settle661VVPsettle all662PDTall the663DTthe time664NNtime for665INfor well666RBwell under667INunder a668DTa dollar669NNdollar per670INper class671NNclass member672NNmember and673CCand then674RBthen successfully675RBsuccessfully distribute676VVdistribute that677DTthat money678NNmoney to679TOto the680DTthe class681NNclass because682INbecause most683JJSmost class684NNclass members685NNSmember are686VBPbe just687RBjust simply688RBsimply indifferent689JJindifferent to690TOto the691DTthe opportunity692NNopportunity for693INfor these694DTthese small695JJsmall sums696NNSsum .697SENT. [JUSTICE GINSBURG]698LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG] And699CCand then700RBthen is701VBZbe it702PPit all703DTall right704NNright to705TOto have706VHhave some707DTsome kind708NNkind of709INof a710DTa cy711NNcy pres712NNSpres doctrine713NNdoctrine operate714VVPoperate ?715SENT? [MR. FRANK]716LOC[MR. FRANK] I717PPI ...718:... [JUSTICE GINSBURG]719LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG] Because720INbecause if721INif ...722:... would723MDwould ...724:... with725INwith ...726:... for727INfor all728PDTall the729DTthe class730NNclass members731NNSmember who732WPwho do733VVPdo n't734RBn't make735VVmake any736DTany claim737NNclaim ?738SENT? [MR. FRANK]739LOC[MR. FRANK] I740PPI ...741:... I742PPI ...743:... I744PPI ...745:... I746PPI ...747:... I748PPI do749VVPdo n't750RBn't understand751VVunderstand the752DTthe question753NNquestion ,754,, Justice755NPJustice .756SENT. I757PPI ...758:... I759PPI apologize760VVPapologize .761SENT. What762WPWhat ...763:... [JUSTICE GINSBURG]764LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG] Suppose765VVsuppose the766DTthe class767NNclass members768NNSmember are769VBPbe notified770VVNnotify and771CCand only772RBonly 10773CD@card@ percent774NNpercent of775INof them776PPthem make777VVPmake a778DTa claim779NNclaim .780SENT. What781WPWhat happens782VVZhappen to783TOto the784DTthe rest785NNrest of786INof the787DTthe amount788NNamount that789WDTthat was790VBDbe agreed791VVNagree upon792RPupon as793INas a794DTa settlement795NNsettlement ?796SENT? [MR. FRANK]797LOC[MR. FRANK] I798PPI ...799:... first800RBfirst of801INof all802DTall ,803,, in804INin practice805NNpractice ,806,, I807PPI just808RBjust want809VVPwant to810TOto let811VVlet the812DTthe Court813NPCourt know814VVPknow that815IN/thatthat 10816CD@card@ percent817NNpercent is818VBZbe an819DTan extraordinarily820RBextraordinarily high821JJhigh claim822NNclaim rate823NNrate .824SENT. The825DTthe claims826NNSclaim rate827NNrate is828VBZbe typically829RBtypically below830INbelow one831CDone percent832NNpercent .833SENT. But834CCbut ...835:... [JUSTICE GINSBURG]836LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG] And837CCand then838RBthen the839DTthe percent840NNpercent .841SENT. [MR. FRANK]842LOC[MR. FRANK] Absolutely843RBabsolutely .844SENT. In845INin the846DTthe typical847JJtypical settlement848NNsettlement ,849,, it850PPit 's851VBZbe a852DTa pro853JJpro rata854NNrata distribution855NNdistribution .856SENT. You857PPyou have858VHPhave a859DTa fund860NNfund of861INof a862DTa few863JJfew million864CDmillion dollars865NNSdollar .866SENT. That867DTthat 's868VBZbe tens869NNSten of870INof millions871NNSmillion of872INof class873NNclass members874NNSmember have875VHPhave the876DTthe opportunity877NNopportunity to878TOto make879VVmake a880DTa claim881NNclaim .882SENT. A883DTa very884RBvery small885JJsmall percentage886NNpercentage make887VVmake the888DTthe claim889NNclaim .890SENT. And891CCand the892DTthe fund893NNfund is894VBZbe distributed895VVNdistribute pro896JJpro rata897NNrata to898TOto them899PPthem .900SENT. That901DTthat 's902VBZbe what903WPwhat happens904VVZhappen in905INin Fraley906NPFraley ,907,, where908WRBwhere the909DTthe number910NNnumber of911INof class912NNclass members913NNSmember making914VVGmake claims915NNSclaim was916VBDbe so917RBso small918JJsmall they919PPthey still920RBstill had921VHDhave money922NNmoney left923VVDleave over924RPover even925RBeven after926INafter giving927VVGgive every928DTevery claiming929VVGclaim class930NNclass member931NNmember $932$$ 15933CD@card@ ,934,, even935RBeven though936INthough we937PPwe were938VBDbe talking939VVGtalk $940$$ 9941CD9 million942CDmillion for943INfor 150944CD@card@ million945CDmillion class946NNclass members947NNSmember .948SENT. That949DTthat 's950VBZbe six951CDsix cents952NNScent per953INper class954NNclass member955NNmember .956SENT. [CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]957LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS] What958WDTwhat ...959:... what960WPwhat do961VVPdo they962PPthey do963VVPdo ?964SENT? Do965VVdo they966PPthey wait967VVwait until968INuntil ...969:... a970DTa reasonable971JJreasonable period972NNperiod and973CCand figure974VVPfigure that975IN/thatthat most976JJSmost of977INof the978DTthe claims979NNSclaim are980VBPbe in981INin and982CCand then983RBthen divide984VVPdivide it985PPit up986RBup or987CCor ...988:... [MR. FRANK]989LOC[MR. FRANK] The990DTthe settlement991NNsettlement procedures992NNSprocedure will993MDwill establish994VVestablish 90995CD@card@ days996NNSday or997CCor 60998CD@card@ days999NNSday or1000CCor 1201001CD@card@ days1002NNSday to1003TOto make1004VVmake a1005DTa claim1006NNclaim .1007SENT. The1008DTthe claims1009NNSclaim come1010VVPcome in1011INin either1012RBeither electronically1013RBelectronically or1014CCor through1015INthrough paper1016NNpaper ,1017,, depending1018VVGdepend on1019INon how1020WRBhow the1021DTthe claims1022NNSclaim process1023NNprocess is1024VBZbe set1025VVNset up1026RPup .1027SENT. And1028CCand sometimes1029RBsometimes there1030EXthere 's1031VBZbe an1032DTan audit1033NNaudit for1034INfor ...1035:... to1036TOto make1037VVmake sure1038JJsure there1039EXthere are1040VBPbe n't1041RBn't fraudulent1042JJfraudulent claims1043NNSclaim .1044SENT. That1045DTthat 's1046VBZbe what1047WPwhat happened1048VVDhappen in1049INin Carrier1050NPCarrier IQ1051NPIQ ,1052,, where1053WRBwhere ,1054,, again1055RBagain ,1056,, even1057RBeven though1058INthough we1059PPwe were1060VBDbe talking1061VVGtalk pennies1062NNSpenny per1063INper class1064NNclass member1065NNmember ,1066,, it1067PPit only1068RBonly cost1069VVDcost them1070PPthem $1071$$ 600,0001072CD@card@ to1073TOto distribute1074VVdistribute a1075DTa few1076JJfew million1077CDmillion dollars1078NNSdollar to1079TOto 301080CD@card@ million1081CDmillion class1082NNclass members1083NNSmember and1084CCand still1085RBstill audit1086VVaudit the1087DTthe claims1088NNSclaim and1089CCand reject1090VVreject 301091CD@card@ percent1092NNpercent of1093INof the1094DTthe claims1095NNSclaim .1096SENT. So1097RBso ...1098:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]1099LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] I1100PPI 'm1101VBPbe sorry1102JJsorry ,1103,, I1104PPI ...1105:... I1106PPI 'm1107VBPbe talking1108VVGtalk ...1109:... this1110DTthis is1111VBZbe a1112DTa full1113JJfull cy1114NNcy pres1115NNSpres award1116NNaward ,1117,, meaning1118VVGmean there1119EXthere 's1120VBZbe no1121DTno direct1122JJdirect benefit1123NNbenefit to1124TOto the1125DTthe class1126NNclass .1127SENT. What1128WPWhat about1129INabout the1130DTthe residual1131JJresidual cy1132NNcy pres1133NNSpres ?1134SENT? I1135PPI thought1136VVDthink in1137INin many1138JJmany instances1139NNSinstance ,1140,, if1141INif a1142DTa fund1143NNfund is1144VBZbe created1145VVNcreate and1146CCand the1147DTthe claimants1148NNSclaimant are1149VBPbe all1150RBall paid1151VVNpay off1152RPoff ,1153,, there1154EXthere 's1155VBZbe some1156DTsome money1157NNmoney left1158VVDleave over1159RPover ,1160,, the1161DTthe residual1162JJresidual cy1163NNcy pres1164NNSpres ,1165,, and1166CCand that1167WDTthat 's1168VBZbe given1169VVNgive indirectly1170RBindirectly often1171RBoften ,1172,, and1173CCand ...1174:... [MR. FRANK]1175LOC[MR. FRANK] Circuits1176NNScircuit differ1177VVPdiffer on1178INon that1179DTthat .1180SENT. The1181DTthe Seventh1182NPSeventh rejects1183VVZreject that1184IN/thatthat proposal1185NNproposal because1186INbecause they1187PPthey recognize1188VVPrecognize that1189IN/thatthat the1190DTthe settling1191VVGsettle parties1192NNSparty have1193VHPhave the1194DTthe ability1195NNability to1196TOto adjust1197VVadjust the1198DTthe claims1199NNSclaim rate1200NNrate by1201INby ...1202:... depending1203VVGdepend on1204INon how1205WRBhow difficult1206JJdifficult they1207PPthey make1208VVPmake the1209DTthe claims1210NNSclaim process1211NNprocess .1212SENT. So1213RBso ,1214,, in1215INin a1216DTa Seventh1217NPSeventh Circuit1218NPCircuit case1219NNcase ,1220,, there1221EXthere is1222VBZbe a1223DTa $1224$$ 11225CD1 .1226SENT. 11227CD1 million1228CDmillion residual1229JJresidual and1230CCand 121231CD@card@ million1232CDmillion class1233NNclass members1234NNSmember ,1235,, though1236INthough that1237WDTthat was1238VBDbe eight1239CDeight cents1240NNScent per1241INper class1242NNclass member1243NNmember .1244SENT. The1245DTthe court1246NNcourt rejected1247VVDreject the1248DTthe idea1249NNidea that1250IN/thatthat that1251DTthat was1252VBDbe a1253DTa benefit1254NNbenefit to1255TOto the1256DTthe class1257NNclass and1258CCand said1259VVDsay you1260PPyou 've1261VHPhave made1262VVNmake the1263DTthe claims1264NNSclaim process1265VVPprocess too1266RBtoo hard1267RBhard and1268CCand required1269VVDrequire them1270PPthem to1271TOto redo1272VVredo the1273DTthe settlement1274NNsettlement on1275INon remand1276NNremand .1277SENT. Millions1278NNSmillion more1279JJRmore dollars1280NNSdollar went1281VVDgo to1282TOto the1283DTthe class1284NNclass because1285INbecause they1286PPthey changed1287VVDchange the1288DTthe ...1289:... the1290DTthe claims1291NNSclaim process1292NNprocess and1293CCand made1294VVDmake it1295PPit easier1296JJReasy for1297INfor class1298NNclass members1299NNSmember to1300TOto make1301VVmake claims1302NNSclaim .1303SENT. So1304RBso ,1305,, if1306INif you1307PPyou have1308VHPhave a1309DTa residual1310JJresidual and1311CCand you1312PPyou incentivize1313VVPincentivize the1314DTthe attorneys1315NNSattorney to1316TOto prefer1317VVprefer the1318DTthe residual1319NNresidual to1320TOto the1321DTthe actual1322JJactual claims1323NNSclaim ,1324,, what1325WPwhat will1326MDwill happen1327VVhappen is1328VBZbe you1329PPyou 'll1330MDwill have1331VHhave a1332DTa very1333RBvery difficult1334JJdifficult claims1335NNSclaim process1336NNprocess .1337SENT. There1338EXthere is1339VBZbe a1340DTa Third1341JJthird Circuit1342NPCircuit case1343NNcase ,1344,, a1345DTa $1346$$ 351347CD@card@ million1348CDmillion fund1349NNfund ,1350,, and1351CCand ...1352:... but1353CCbut you1354PPyou had1355VHDhave to1356TOto fill1357VVfill out1358RPout a1359DTa five-page1360NNfive-page claim1361NNclaim form1362NNform to1363TOto claim1364VVclaim your1365PP$your five1366CDfive dollars1367NNSdollar .1368SENT. And1369CCand so1370RBso very1371RBvery few1372JJfew class1373NNclass members1374NNSmember did1375VVDdo that1376RBthat .1377SENT. They1378PPthey were1379VBDbe only1380RBonly going1381VVGgo to1382TOto distribute1383VVdistribute $1384$$ 31385CD3 million1386CDmillion with1387INwith over1388INover 151389CD@card@ million1390CDmillion to1391TOto cy1392NNcy pres1393NNSpres .1394SENT. And1395CCand the1396DTthe Third1397NPThird Circuit1398NPCircuit rejected1399VVDreject that1400IN/thatthat ,1401,, that1402WDTthat the1403DTthe district1404NNdistrict court1405NNcourt failed1406VVDfail to1407TOto prioritize1408VVprioritize direct1409JJdirect benefit1410NNbenefit to1411TOto the1412DTthe class1413NNclass .1414SENT. And1415CCand it1416PPit just1417RBjust ...1418:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]1419LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] Assuming1420VVGassume all1421DTall of1422INof that1423DTthat ,1424,, let1425VVlet 's1426VBZbe assume1427VVassume a1428DTa very1429RBvery efficient1430JJefficient claim1431NNclaim process1432NNprocess ,1433,, let1434VVlet 's1435VBZbe assume1436VVassume a1437DTa ...1438:... a1439DTa careful1440JJcareful feasibility1441NNfeasibility study1442NNstudy by1443INby the1444DTthe district1445NNdistrict court1446NNcourt .1447SENT. Are1448VBPbe you1449PPyou still1450RBstill ...1451:... you1452PPyou 're1453VBPbe still1454RBstill taking1455VVGtake the1456DTthe position1457NNposition that1458IN/thatthat if1459INif there1460EXthere 's1461VBZbe a1462DTa residual1463NNresidual for1464INfor any1465DTany reason1466NNreason that1467WDTthat 's1468VBZbe legitimate1469JJlegitimate ,1470,, there1471EXthere 's1472VHZhave been1473VBNbe an1474DTan easy1475JJeasy claims1476NNSclaim process1477NNprocess ,1478,, there1479EXthere 's1480VHZhave been1481VBNbe a1482DTa simple1483JJsimple distribution1484NNdistribution ,1485,, whatever1486WDTwhatever ,1487,, you1488PPyou 're1489VBPbe still1490RBstill saying1491VVGsay that1492IN/thatthat an1493DTan indirect1494JJindirect benefit1495NNbenefit ,1496,, a1497DTa partial1498JJpartial cy1499NNcy pres1500NNSpres ,1501,, is1502VBZbe not1503RBnot okay1504JJokay ?1505SENT? [MR. FRANK]1506LOC[MR. FRANK] I1507PPI 'm1508VBPbe saying1509VVGsay that1510IN/thatthat you1511PPyou can1512MDcan 't1513RB't reward1514NNreward class1515NNclass counsel1516NNcounsel for1517INfor it1518PPit .1519SENT. You1520PPyou have1521VHPhave to1522TOto incentivize1523VVincentivize them1524PPthem to1525TOto prioritize1526VVprioritize the1527DTthe direct1528JJdirect benefit1529NNbenefit to1530TOto the1531DTthe class1532NNclass .1533SENT. [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]1534LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] So1535INso your1536PP$your position1537NNposition is1538VBZbe that1539IN/thatthat cy1540NNcy pres1541NNSpres is1542VBZbe okay1543JJokay ,1544,, but1545CCbut we1546PPwe should1547MDshould write1548VVwrite legislation1549NNlegislation in1550INin our1551PP$our opinion1552NNopinion saying1553VVGsay that1554IN/thatthat we1555PPwe can1556MDcan 't1557RB't pay1558NNpay class1559NNclass counsel1560NNcounsel for1561INfor that1562DTthat .1563SENT. Have1564VHPhave you1565PPyou read1566VVPread the1567DTthe Third1568NPThird Circuit1569NPCircuit opinion1570NNopinion that1571IN/thatthat talks1572NNStalk about1573INabout this1574DTthis and1575CCand says1576VVZsay there1577EXthere 's1578VBZbe a1579DTa lot1580NNlot to1581TOto balance1582VVbalance in1583INin this1584DTthis issue1585NNissue ,1586,, and1587CCand are1588VBPbe the1589DTthe courts1590NNScourt the1591DTthe appropriate1592JJappropriate one1593CDone or1594CCor is1595VBZbe Congress1596NPCongress the1597DTthe appropriate1598JJappropriate one1599CDone ?1600SENT? [MR. FRANK]1601LOC[MR. FRANK] Well1602UHWell ...1603:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]1604LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] Or1605CCor is1606VBZbe the1607DTthe individual1608JJindividual district1609NNdistrict court1610NNcourt 's1611POS's discretion1612NNdiscretion appropriate1613JJappropriate until1614INuntil the1615DTthe Congress1616NPCongress looks1617VVZlook at1618INat this1619DTthis and1620CCand decides1621VVZdecide ?1622SENT? [MR. FRANK]1623LOC[MR. FRANK] I1624PPI think1625VVPthink Rule1626NPRule 231627CD@card@ (1628(( e1629LSe )1630)) means1631VVZmean something1632NNsomething .1633SENT. And1634CCand this1635DTthis Court1636NPCourt has1637VHZhave previously1638RBpreviously called1639VVNcall disproportionate1640JJdisproportionate benefits1641NNSbenefit an1642DTan abuse1643NNabuse .1644SENT. And1645CCand it1646PPit 's1647VBZbe ...1648:... it1649PPit 's1650VBZbe very1651RBvery clear1652JJclear that1653IN/thatthat Rule1654NPRule 231655CD@card@ ...1656:... not1657RBnot ...1658:... not1659RBnot ...1660:... it1661PPit 's1662VBZbe not1663RBnot the1664DTthe case1665NNcase that1666IN/thatthat everything1667NNeverything goes1668VVZgo under1669INunder Rule1670NPRule 231671CD@card@ (1672(( e1673NNe )1674)) ,1675,, so1676RBso long1677RBlong as1678INas a1679DTa district1680NNdistrict court1681NNcourt rubber1682NNrubber stamps1683VVZstamp it1684PPit .1685SENT. [JUSTICE ALITO]1686LOC[JUSTICE ALITO] In1687INin a1688DTa case1689NNcase such1690JJsuch as1691INas this1692DTthis ,1693,, is1694VBZbe any1695DTany effort1696NNeffort made1697VVNmake ...1698:... and1699CCand would1700MDwould it1701PPit even1702RBeven be1703VBbe possible1704JJpossible ...1705:... to1706TOto determine1707VVdetermine whether1708INwhether every1709DTevery absent1710JJabsent class1711NNclass member1712NNmember or1713CCor even1714RBeven most1715JJSmost of1716INof the1717DTthe absent1718JJabsent class1719NNclass members1720NNSmember regard1721VVPregard the1722DTthe beneficiaries1723NNSbeneficiary of1724INof the1725DTthe cy1726NNcy pres1727NNSpres award1728NNaward as1729INas entities1730NNSentity to1731TOto which1732WDTwhich they1733PPthey would1734MDwould like1735VVlike to1736TOto make1737VVmake a1738DTa contribution1739NNcontribution ?1740SENT? [MR. FRANK]1741LOC[MR. FRANK] It1742PPit 's1743VBZbe very1744RBvery possible1745JJpossible to1746TOto establish1747VVestablish a1748DTa claims1749NNSclaim process1750NNprocess where1751WRBwhere somebody1752NNsomebody checks1753VVZcheck a1754DTa box1755NNbox and1756CCand said1757VVDsay ,1758,, instead1759RBinstead of1760INof sending1761VVGsend me1762PPme a1763DTa check1764NNcheck for1765INfor six1766CDsix dollars1767NNSdollar ,1768,, send1769VVsend it1770PPit to1771TOto the1772DTthe American1773NPAmerican Cancer1774NPCancer Society1775NPSociety .1776SENT. Nobody1777NNnobody does1778VVZdo that1779IN/thatthat ,1780,, or1781CCor at1782INat least1783JJSleast we1784PPwe ...1785:... we1786PPwe have1787VHPhave n't1788RBn't seen1789VVNsee settlements1790NNSsettlement that1791WDTthat do1792VVPdo that1793DTthat .1794SENT. And1795CCand the1796DTthe reality1797NNreality is1798VBZbe ,1799,, if1800INif class1801NNclass members1802NNSmember want1803VVPwant to1804TOto send1805VVsend their1806PP$their money1807NNmoney to1808TOto charity1809NNcharity ,1810,, they1811PPthey can1812MDcan do1813VVdo it1814PPit without1815INwithout the1816DTthe intermediary1817NNintermediary of1818INof class1819NNclass counsel1820NNcounsel .1821SENT. [JUSTICE ALITO]1822LOC[JUSTICE ALITO] So1823INso who1824WPwho decides1825VVZdecide who1826WPwho these1827DTthese beneficiaries1828NNSbeneficiary are1829VBPbe going1830VVGgo to1831TOto be1832VBbe ?1833SENT? [MR. FRANK]1834LOC[MR. FRANK] It1835PPit varies1836VVZvary from1837INfrom settlement1838NNsettlement to1839TOto settlement1840NNsettlement .1841SENT. In1842INin this1843DTthis case1844NNcase ,1845,, class1846NNclass counsel1847NNcounsel and1848CCand Google1849NPGoogle negotiated1850VVDnegotiate and1851CCand agreed1852VVDagree to1853TOto a1854DTa set1855NNset of1856INof six1857CDsix beneficiaries1858NNSbeneficiary .1859SENT. That1860DTthat process1861NNprocess was1862VBDbe opaque1863JJopaque ,1864,, and1865CCand we1866PPwe do1867VVPdo n't1868RBn't understand1869VVunderstand which1870WDTwhich beneficiaries1871NNSbeneficiary did1872VVDdo n't1873RBn't make1874VVmake the1875DTthe cut1876NNcut and1877CCand why1878WRBwhy they1879PPthey did1880VVDdo n't1881RBn't make1882VVmake the1883DTthe cut1884NNcut ,1885,, but1886CCbut they1887PPthey ...1888:... they1889PPthey chose1890VVDchoose these1891DTthese particular1892JJparticular beneficiaries1893NNSbeneficiary .1894SENT. [JUSTICE ALITO]1895LOC[JUSTICE ALITO] So1896INso the1897DTthe parties1898NNSparty and1899CCand the1900DTthe lawyers1901NNSlawyer get1902VVPget together1903RBtogether and1904CCand they1905PPthey choose1906VVPchoose beneficiaries1907NNSbeneficiary that1908IN/thatthat they1909PPthey personally1910RBpersonally would1911MDwould like1912VVlike to1913TOto subsidize1914VVsubsidize ?1915SENT? That1916DTthat 's1917VBZbe how1918WRBhow it1919PPit works1920VVZwork ?1921SENT? [MR. FRANK]1922LOC[MR. FRANK] That1923DTthat 's1924VBZbe usually1925RBusually how1926WRBhow it1927PPit works1928VVZwork .1929SENT. We1930PPwe 've1931VHPhave had1932VHDhave ...1933:... I1934PPI 've1935VHPhave seen1936VVNsee settlements1937NNSsettlement where1938WRBwhere the1939DTthe judge1940NNjudge says1941VVZsay I1942PPI do1943VVPdo n't1944RBn't like1945VVlike these1946DTthese beneficiaries1947NNSbeneficiary ,1948,, pick1949VVpick these1950DTthese beneficiaries1951NNSbeneficiary .1952SENT. [CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]1953LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS] Where1954WRBwhere the1955DTthe judge1956NNjudge has1957VHZhave designated1958VVNdesignate the1959DTthe beneficiaries1960NNSbeneficiary ?1961SENT? [MR. FRANK]1962LOC[MR. FRANK] There1963EXthere are1964VBPbe settlements1965NNSsettlement structured1966VVNstructure where1967WRBwhere the1968DTthe judge1969NNjudge designates1970VVZdesignate the1971DTthe beneficiaries1972NNSbeneficiary .1973SENT. And1974CCand in1975INin another1976DTanother Google1977NPGoogle settlement1978NNsettlement that1979IN/thatthat we1980PPwe discuss1981VVdiscuss in1982INin our1983PP$our opening1984NNopening brief1985NNbrief ,1986,, the1987DTthe parties1988NNSparty designated1989VVDdesignate a1990DTa beneficiary1991NNbeneficiary and1992CCand ...1993:... and1994CCand the1995DTthe court1996NNcourt re-designated1997VVDre-designated the1998DTthe beneficiary1999NNbeneficiary .2000SENT. [JUSTICE KAGAN]2001LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN] Mr2002NPMr .2003SENT. Frank2004NPFrank ...2005:... [JUSTICE GORSUCH]2006LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH] We2007PPwe ...2008:... we2009PPwe ...2010:... I2011PPI 'm2012VBPbe sorry2013JJsorry .2014SENT. [JUSTICE KAGAN]2015LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN] Sorry2016RBsorry .2017SENT. No2018UHNo ,2019,, go2020VVgo ahead2021RBahead .2022SENT. [JUSTICE GORSUCH]2023LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH] Oh2024UHoh ,2025,, please2026UHplease go2027VVgo ahead2028RBahead .2029SENT. [JUSTICE KAGAN]2030LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN] No2031NPNo .2032SENT. [CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]2033LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS] Justice2034NPJustice Kagan2035NPKagan .2036SENT. [JUSTICE KAGAN]2037LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN] I2038PPI was2039VBDbe going2040VVGgo to2041TOto change2042VVchange the2043DTthe subject2044NNsubject .2045SENT. [2046SYM[ LAUGHTER2047NNlaughter ]2048SYM] [JUSTICE GORSUCH]2049LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH] So2050RBso was2051VBDbe I2052PPI .2053SENT. [2054SYM[ LAUGHTER2055NNlaughter ]2056SYM] [JUSTICE GORSUCH]2057LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH] Jurisdiction2058NNjurisdiction ?2059SENT? [JUSTICE KAGAN]2060LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN] Yes2061NPYes .2062SENT. [JUSTICE GORSUCH]2063LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH] Go2064NPGo for2065INfor it2066PPit .2067SENT. [2068SYM[ LAUGHTER2069NNlaughter ]2070SYM] [JUSTICE KAGAN]2071LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN] May2072MDmay I2073PPI ask2074VVask you2075PPyou ,2076,, Mr2077NPMr .2078SENT. Frank2079NPFrank ,2080,, to2081TOto ...2082:... to2083TOto ...2084:... to2085TOto address2086VVaddress the2087DTthe standing2088VVGstand issue2089NNissue in2090INin this2091DTthis case2092NNcase ,2093,, to2094TOto ...2095:... to2096TOto talk2097VVtalk about2098RBabout what2099WPwhat you2100PPyou think2101VVPthink the2102DTthe harm2103NNharm was2104VBDbe and2105CCand whether2106INwhether any2107DTany court2108NNcourt has2109VHZhave addressed2110VVNaddress your2111PP$your theories2112NNStheory about2113INabout the2114DTthe harm2115NNharm ?2116SENT? [MR. FRANK]2117LOC[MR. FRANK] Are2118VBPbe you2119PPyou ...2120:... are2121VBPbe you2122PPyou talking2123VVGtalk my2124PP$my harm2125NNharm or2126CCor the2127DTthe harm2128NNharm of2129INof the2130DTthe plaintiffs2131NNSplaintiff ?2132SENT? [JUSTICE KAGAN]2133LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN] The2134DTthe harm2135NNharm of2136INof the2137DTthe plaintiffs2138NNSplaintiff .2139SENT. [MR. FRANK]2140LOC[MR. FRANK] The2141DTthe harm2142NNharm of2143INof the2144DTthe plaintiffs2145NNSplaintiff ,2146,, we2147PPwe discuss2148VVPdiscuss that2149IN/thatthat at2150INat pages2151NNSpage 252152CD@card@ and2153CCand 262154CD@card@ of2155INof our2156PP$our reply2157NNreply brief2158NNbrief .2159SENT. And2160CCand one2161CDone of2162INof the2163DTthe named2164VVNname plaintiffs2165NNSplaintiff ,2166,, Anthony2167NPAnthony Italiano2168NPItaliano ,2169,, alleges2170VVZallege a2171DTa statutory2172JJstatutory violation2173NNviolation that2174WDTthat corresponds2175VVZcorrespond to2176TOto the2177DTthe common2178JJcommon law2179NNlaw tort2180NNtort of2181INof public2182JJpublic disclosure2183NNdisclosure of2184INof private2185JJprivate facts2186NNSfact .2187SENT. And2188CCand the2189DTthe lower2190JJRlow courts2191NNScourt are2192VBPbe unanimous2193JJunanimous in2194INin holding2195VVGhold that2196IN/thatthat that2197DTthat kind2198NNkind of2199INof statutory2200JJstatutory claim2201NNclaim satisfies2202NNSsatisfy Spokeo2203NPSpokeo .2204SENT. Even2205RBeven on2206INon remand2207NNremand in2208INin Spokeo2209NPSpokeo ,2210,, the2211DTthe Ninth2212JJninth Circuit2213NNcircuit found2214VVDfind standing2215VVGstand ,2216,, and2217CCand this2218DTthis Court2219NPCourt denied2220VVDdeny cert2221NNcert the2222DTthe second2223JJsecond time2224NNtime up2225RBup .2226SENT. So2227RBso I2228PPI do2229VVPdo n't2230RBn't think2231VVthink there2232EXthere 's2233VBZbe a2234DTa real2235JJreal standing2236NNstanding issue2237NNissue ,2238,, unless2239INunless the2240DTthe Court2241NPCourt is2242VBZbe inclined2243VVNincline to2244TOto expand2245VVexpand Spokeo2246NPSpokeo .2247SENT. [JUSTICE KAGAN]2248LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN] I2249PPI had2250VHDhave thought2251VVNthink ,2252,, Mr2253NPMr .2254SENT. Frank2255NPFrank ,2256,, that2257IN/thatthat the2258DTthe lower2259JJRlow court2260NNcourt thought2261VVDthink that2262IN/thatthat there2263EXthere would2264MDwould be2265VBbe ...2266:... there2267EXthere was2268VBDbe standing2269VVGstand just2270RBjust because2271INbecause it2272PPit was2273VBDbe a2274DTa statutory2275JJstatutory claim2276NNclaim ,2277,, and2278CCand that2279IN/thatthat there2280EXthere was2281VBDbe no2282DTno reason2283NNreason that2284IN/thatthat the2285DTthe plaintiff2286NNplaintiff had2287VHDhave to2288TOto show2289VVshow a2290DTa particularized2291VVNparticularize or2292CCor a2293DTa concrete2294JJconcrete injury2295NNinjury .2296SENT. [MR. FRANK]2297LOC[MR. FRANK] That2298DTthat is2299VBZbe certainly2300RBcertainly the2301DTthe wrong2302JJwrong standard2303NNstandard for2304INfor the2305DTthe district2306NNdistrict court2307NNcourt to2308TOto have2309VHhave applied2310VVNapply ,2311,, with2312INwith later2313RBRlater Supreme2314NPSupreme Court2315NPCourt jurisprudence2316NNjurisprudence indicating2317VVGindicate that2318IN/thatthat ,2319,, but2320CCbut we2321PPwe can2322MDcan determine2323VVdetermine from2324INfrom the2325DTthe face2326NNface of2327INof the2328DTthe complaint2329NNcomplaint that2330IN/thatthat Anthony2331NPAnthony Italiano2332NPItaliano made2333VVDmake an2334DTan allegation2335NNallegation of2336INof concrete2337JJconcrete injury2338NNinjury within2339INwithin the2340DTthe ambit2341NNambit of2342INof what2343WPwhat Justice2344NPJustice Thomas2345NPThomas 's2346POS's concurrence2347NNconcurrence in2348INin Spokeo2349NPSpokeo indicated2350VVDindicate was2351VBDbe acceptable2352JJacceptable and2353CCand what2354WPwhat lower2355JJRlow courts2356NNScourt have2357VHPhave unanimously2358RBunanimously indicated2359VVNindicate that2360IN/thatthat it2361PPit was2362VBDbe ...2363:... was2364VBDbe acceptable2365JJacceptable .2366SENT. [CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]2367LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS] I2368PPI was2369VBDbe curious2370JJcurious where2371WRBwhere you2372PPyou were2373VBDbe going2374VVGgo to2375TOto come2376VVcome down2377RPdown before2378INbefore you2379PPyou filed2380VVDfile your2381PP$your brief2382NNbrief ,2383,, because2384RBbecause ,2385,, obviously2386RBobviously ,2387,, if2388INif there2389EXthere 's2390VBZbe no2391DTno standing2392NNstanding ,2393,, the2394DTthe whole2395JJwhole class2396NNclass action2397NNaction 's2398VBZbe thrown2399VVNthrow out2400RPout ,2401,, right2402RBright ?2403SENT? [MR. FRANK]2404LOC[MR. FRANK] That2405DTthat would2406MDwould be2407VBbe correct2408JJcorrect .2409SENT. That2410DTthat would2411MDwould be2412VBbe the2413DTthe right2414JJright thing2415NNthing to2416TOto do2417VVdo under2418INunder Arizonans2419NNSArizonan for2420INfor Proper2421NPProper English2422NPEnglish ,2423,, or2424CCor English2425NPEnglish .2426SENT. That2427DTthat 's2428VBZbe exactly2429RBexactly what2430WPwhat the2431DTthe Court2432NPCourt did2433VVDdo .2434SENT. The2435DTthe Court2436NPCourt found2437VVDfind that2438IN/thatthat the2439DTthe lower2440JJRlow courts2441NNScourt did2442VVDdo not2443RBnot have2444VHhave jurisdiction2445NNjurisdiction and2446CCand vacated2447VVNvacate everything2448NNeverything .2449SENT. [JUSTICE GORSUCH]2450LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH] You2451PPyou say2452VVPsay ...2453:... to2454TOto follow2455VVfollow up2456RPup with2457INwith Justice2458NPJustice Kagan2459NPKagan ,2460,, who2461WPwho anticipated2462VVDanticipate exactly2463RBexactly where2464WRBwhere I2465PPI wanted2466VVDwant to2467TOto go2468VVgo ...2469:... you2470PPyou say2471VVPsay there2472EXthere 's2473VBZbe an2474DTan allegation2475NNallegation with2476INwith respect2477NNrespect to2478TOto Mr2479NPMr .2480SENT. Italiano2481NPItaliano that2482RBthat ...2483:... that2484IN/thatthat he2485PPhe was2486VBDbe injured2487VVNinjure .2488SENT. But2489CCbut do2490VVPdo we2491PPwe know2492VVPknow that2493IN/thatthat he2494PPhe was2495VBDbe injured2496VVNinjure ?2497SENT? Is2498VBZbe there2499RBthere any2500DTany evidence2501NNevidence that2502IN/thatthat his2503PP$his personal2504JJpersonal information2505NNinformation ,2506,, for2507INfor example2508NNexample ,2509,, was2510VBDbe n't2511RBn't already2512RBalready available2513JJavailable through2514INthrough the2515DTthe white2516JJwhite pages2517NNSpage and2518CCand otherwise2519RBotherwise published2520VVNpublish so2521RBso that2522IN/thatthat there2523EXthere is2524VBZbe no2525DTno injury2526NNinjury in2527INin fact2528NNfact ?2529SENT? [MR. FRANK]2530LOC[MR. FRANK] Well2531UHWell ,2532,, that2533WDTthat goes2534VVZgo to2535TOto the2536DTthe merits2537NNSmerit .2538SENT. If2539INif I2540PPI allege2541VVPallege that2542IN/thatthat my2543PP$my friend2544NNfriend here2545RBhere punched2546VVDpunch me2547PPme in2548INin the2549DTthe head2550NNhead and2551CCand ...2552:... and2553CCand owes2554VVZowe me2555PPme over2556INover $2557$$ 75,0002558CD@card@ and2559CCand we2560PPwe 're2561VBPbe citizens2562NNScitizen of2563INof different2564JJdifferent states2565NNSstate ,2566,, I2567PPI had2568VHDhave a2569DTa claim2570NNclaim for2571INfor standing2572VVGstand even2573RBeven if2574INif that2575DTthat claim2576NNclaim is2577VBZbe completely2578RBcompletely fictional2579JJfictional .2580SENT. [JUSTICE GORSUCH]2581LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH] Well2582UHWell ,2583,, fair2584JJfair enough2585NNenough at2586INat a2587DTa 122588CD@card@ (2589(( b2590LSb )2591)) (2592(( 62593CD6 )2594)) stage2595NNstage ,2596,, but2597CCbut ,2598,, here2599RBhere ,2600,, we2601PPwe 're2602VBPbe entering2603VVGenter a2604DTa final2605JJfinal judgment2606NNjudgment ,2607,, and2608CCand should2609MDshould we2610PPwe at2611INat least2612JJSleast remand2613NNremand to2614TOto ...2615:... to2616TOto a2617DTa lower2618JJRlow court2619NNcourt to2620TOto make2621VVmake a2622DTa decision2623NNdecision as2624INas to2625TOto whether2626INwhether there2627EXthere is2628VBZbe actually2629RBactually standing2630VVGstand as2631RBas opposed2632VVNoppose to2633TOto a2634DTa mere2635JJmere allegation2636NNallegation of2637INof standing2638NNstanding ?2639SENT? [MR. FRANK]2640LOC[MR. FRANK] I2641PPI do2642VVPdo n't2643RBn't think2644VVthink that2645WDTthat 's2646VBZbe the2647DTthe case2648NNcase .2649SENT. I2650PPI think2651VVPthink the2652DTthe ...2653:... the2654DTthe ...2655:... the2656DTthe allegation2657NNallegation of2658INof concrete2659JJconcrete injury2660NNinjury establishes2661VVZestablish the2662DTthe standing2663NNstanding ,2664,, and2665CCand then2666RBthen the2667DTthe merits2668NNSmerit question2669NNquestion 's2670VBZbe always2671RBalways different2672JJdifferent than2673INthan the2674DTthe jurisdictional2675JJjurisdictional question2676NNquestion .2677SENT. [JUSTICE BREYER]2678LOC[JUSTICE BREYER] What2679WPWhat is2680VBZbe the2681DTthe private2682JJprivate ...2683:... I2684PPI mean2685VVPmean ,2686,, what2687WPwhat I2688PPI have2689VHPhave here2690RBhere ,2691,, my2692PP$my law2693NNlaw clerk2694NNclerk looked2695VVDlook it2696PPit up2697RPup ,2698,, is2699VBZbe that2700IN/thatthat the2701DTthe search2702NNsearch that2703IN/thatthat Mr2704NPMr .2705SENT. Italiano2706NPItaliano engaged2707VVDengage in2708INin was2709VBDbe his2710PP$his name2711NNname ,2712,, that2713WDTthat 's2714VBZbe certainly2715RBcertainly public2716JJpublic ,2717,, his2718PP$his home2719NNhome address2720NNaddress ,2721,, I2722PPI imagine2723VVPimagine that2724WDTthat 's2725VBZbe public2726JJpublic ,2727,, name2728NNname in2729INin bankruptcy2730NNbankruptcy ,2731,, his2732PP$his name2733NNname in2734INin foreclosure2735NNforeclosure proceedings2736NNSproceeding ,2737,, his2738PP$his name2739NNname in2740INin short2741JJshort sale2742NNsale proceedings2743NNSproceeding ,2744,, his2745PP$his name2746NNname in2747INin Facebook2748NPFacebook ,2749,, and2750CCand his2751PP$his name2752NNname and2753CCand the2754DTthe name2755NNname of2756INof his2757PP$his then2758RBthen soon-to-be2759JJsoon-to-be ex-wife2760NNex-wife and2761CCand the2762DTthe words2763NNSword "2764``" forensic2765JJforensic accounting2766NNaccounting .2767SENT. "2768''" Now2769RBnow how2770WRBhow ...2771:... go2772VVgo ...2773:... if2774INif that2775DTthat ...2776:... if2777INif those2778DTthose are2779VBPbe all2780RBall the2781DTthe things2782NNSthing that2783IN/thatthat he2784PPhe looked2785VVDlook up2786RPup ,2787,, how2788WRBhow are2789VBPbe the2790DTthe ...2791:... what2792WPwhat concrete2793NNconcrete injury2794NNinjury was2795VBDbe there2796RBthere because2797INbecause somebody2798NNsomebody might2799MDmight discover2800VVdiscover through2801INthrough Google2802NPGoogle that2803IN/thatthat he2804PPhe made2805VVDmake those2806DTthose searches2807NNSsearch ?2808SENT? I2809PPI mean2810VVPmean ,2811,, I2812PPI ...2813:... I2814PPI do2815VVPdo n't2816RBn't quite2817RBquite see2818VVsee how2819WRBhow this2820DTthis is2821VBZbe some2822DTsome kind2823NNkind of2824INof secret2825JJsecret or2826CCor private2827JJprivate or2828CCor ...2829:... information2830NNinformation .2831SENT. And2832CCand I2833PPI do2834VVPdo n't2835RBn't see2836VVsee alleged2837JJalleged anywhere2838RBanywhere how2839WRBhow those2840DTthose things2841NNSthing were2842VBDbe hurt2843VVNhurt .2844SENT. So2845RBso I2846PPI had2847VHDhave a2848DTa hard2849JJhard time2850NNtime distinguishing2851VVGdistinguish this2852DTthis from2853INfrom Spokeo2854NPSpokeo .2855SENT. [MR. FRANK]2856LOC[MR. FRANK] Well2857UHWell ,2858,, the2859DTthe Ninth2860JJninth Circuit2861NNcircuit ...2862:... [JUSTICE BREYER]2863LOC[JUSTICE BREYER] And2864CCand ...2865:... and2866CCand ...2867:... and2868CCand the2869DTthe statute2870NNstatute ...2871:... and2872CCand the2873DTthe judge2874NNjudge ,2875,, by2876INby the2877DTthe way2878NNway ,2879,, did2880VVDdo n't2881RBn't even2882RBeven try2883VVtry .2884SENT. [MR. FRANK]2885LOC[MR. FRANK] I2886PPI agree2887VVPagree .2888SENT. [JUSTICE BREYER]2889LOC[JUSTICE BREYER] He2890PPhe just2891RBjust said2892VVDsay that2893IN/thatthat the2894DTthe very2895JJvery fact2896NNfact that2897IN/thatthat the2898DTthe statute2899NNstatute forbids2900VVZforbid it2901PPit is2902VBZbe enough2903JJenough ,2904,, which2905WDTwhich I2906PPI think2907VVPthink is2908VBZbe one2909CDone thing2910NNthing Spokeo2911NPSpokeo says2912VVZsay that2913DTthat 's2914VBZbe wrong2915JJwrong .2916SENT. [MR. FRANK]2917LOC[MR. FRANK] I2918PPI agree2919VVPagree that2920IN/thatthat the2921DTthe judge2922NNjudge did2923VVDdo not2924RBnot apply2925VVapply the2926DTthe Spokeo2927NPSpokeo standard2928NNstandard .2929SENT. And2930CCand if2931INif you2932PPyou think2933VVPthink the2934DTthe Ninth2935JJninth Circuit2936NNcircuit would2937MDwould do2938VVdo something2939NNsomething differently2940RBdifferently here2941RBhere than2942INthan it2943PPit would2944MDwould in2945INin Spokeo2946NPSpokeo or2947CCor has2948VHZhave a2949DTa chance2950NNchance of2951INof doing2952VVGdo something2953NNsomething differently2954RBdifferently here2955RBhere ,2956,, then2957RBthen maybe2958RBmaybe the2959DTthe appropriate2960JJappropriate decision2961NNdecision is2962VBZbe to2963TOto remand2964VVremand and2965CCand let2966VVlet them2967PPthem consider2968VVconsider that2969DTthat .2970SENT. And2971CCand while2972INwhile the2973DTthe case2974NNcase for2975INfor Mr2976NPMr .2977SENT. Italiano2978NPItaliano 's2979POS's injury2980NNinjury may2981MDmay be2982VBbe weak2983JJweak ,2984,, which2985WDTwhich suggests2986VVZsuggest why2987WRBwhy this2988DTthis settled2989VVNsettle for2990INfor such2991PDTsuch an2992DTan infinitesimal2993JJinfinitesimal amount2994NNamount of2995INof the2996DTthe statutory2997JJstatutory damages2998NNSdamage ,2999,, that3000WDTthat does3001VVZdo not3002RBnot change3003VVchange that3004IN/thatthat the3005DTthe allegation3006NNallegation was3007VBDbe made3008VVNmake and3009CCand that3010DTthat ...3011:... [JUSTICE BREYER]3012LOC[JUSTICE BREYER] Yes3013NPYes ,3014,, the3015DTthe allegation3016NNallegation is3017VBZbe made3018VVNmake ,3019,, but3020CCbut where3021WRBwhere is3022VBZbe an3023DTan allegation3024NNallegation of3025INof some3026DTsome kind3027NNkind of3028INof injury3029NNinjury that3030WDTthat would3031MDwould actually3032RBactually concretely3033RBconcretely and3034CCand particularly3035RBparticularly hurt3036VVhurt him3037PPhim ?3038SENT? [MR. FRANK]3039LOC[MR. FRANK] Again3040NPAgain ...3041:... [JUSTICE BREYER]3042LOC[JUSTICE BREYER] By3043INby somebody3044NNsomebody looking3045VVGlook up3046RPup on3047INon the3048DTthe ...3049:... at3050INat Google3051NPGoogle and3052CCand discovering3053VVGdiscover he3054PPhe made3055VVDmake those3056DTthose searches3057NNSsearch ?3058SENT? [MR. FRANK]3059LOC[MR. FRANK] Even3060RBeven under3061INunder the3062DTthe common3063JJcommon law3064NNlaw ,3065,, the3066DTthe public3067JJpublic disclosure3068NNdisclosure of3069INof private3070JJprivate facts3071NNSfact ...3072:... [JUSTICE BREYER]3073LOC[JUSTICE BREYER] And3074CCand which3075WDTwhich are3076VBPbe the3077DTthe private3078JJprivate facts3079NNSfact ?3080SENT? [MR. FRANK]3081LOC[MR. FRANK] The3082DTthe private3083JJprivate facts3084NNSfact regarding3085VVGregard the3086DTthe dissolution3087NNdissolution of3088INof his3089PP$his marriage3090NNmarriage and3091CCand ...3092:... and3093CCand ...3094:... and3095CCand things3096NNSthing of3097INof that3098DTthat nature3099NNnature .3100SENT. [JUSTICE GORSUCH]3101LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH] Well3102UHWell ,3103,, again3104RBagain ,3105,, though3106RBthough ,3107,, I3108PPI think3109VVPthink this3110DTthis gets3111VVZget ...3112:... we3113PPwe 're3114VBPbe stuck3115VVNstick in3116INin the3117DTthe same3118JJsame place3119NNplace ,3120,, I3121PPI think3122VVPthink ,3123,, which3124WDTwhich is3125VBZbe that3126IN/thatthat you3127PPyou have3128VHPhave to3129TOto assume3130VVassume that3131IN/thatthat that3132DTthat information3133NNinformation is3134VBZbe n't3135RBn't otherwise3136RBotherwise available3137JJavailable .3138SENT. At3139INat least3140JJSleast in3141INin a3142DTa ...3143:... fine3144RBfine ,3145,, you3146PPyou do3147VVPdo n't3148RBn't want3149VVwant to3150TOto prove3151VVprove it3152PPit ,3153,, an3154DTan allegation3155NNallegation of3156INof it3157PPit ,3158,, there3159EXthere 's3160VBZbe no3161DTno allegation3162NNallegation that3163IN/thatthat that3164DTthat information3165NNinformation was3166VBDbe n't3167RBn't otherwise3168RBotherwise available3169JJavailable .3170SENT. So3171RBso what3172WPwhat do3173VVPdo we3174PPwe do3175VVPdo about3176RBabout that3177RBthat ?3178SENT? I3179PPI think3180VVPthink that3181DTthat 's3182VBZbe the3183DTthe part3184NNpart where3185WRBwhere ...3186:... that3187IN/thatthat we3188PPwe 're3189VBPbe struggling3190VVGstruggle with3191INwith here3192RBhere .3193SENT. [MR. FRANK]3194LOC[MR. FRANK] If3195INif the3196DTthe complaint3197NNcomplaint is3198VBZbe not3199RBnot strong3200JJstrong enough3201RBenough to3202TOto establish3203VVestablish the3204DTthe concrete3205JJconcrete injury3206NNinjury under3207INunder what3208WPwhat a3209DTa majority3210NNmajority of3211INof the3212DTthe Court3213NPCourt indicated3214VVDindicate would3215MDwould be3216VBbe sufficient3217JJsufficient under3218INunder Spokeo3219NPSpokeo and3220CCand what3221WPwhat the3222DTthe lower3223JJRlow courts3224NNScourt have3225VHPhave repeatedly3226RBrepeatedly found3227VVNfind with3228INwith respect3229NNrespect to3230TOto Spokeo3231NPSpokeo ,3232,, then3233RBthen the3234DTthe appropriate3235JJappropriate decision3236NNdecision is3237VBZbe to3238TOto have3239VHhave a3240DTa limited3241JJlimited remand3242NNremand and3243CCand take3244VVtake it3245PPit back3246RBback up3247RBup ,3248,, assuming3249VVGassume that3250IN/thatthat the3251DTthe Court3252NPCourt finds3253VVZfind jurisdiction3254NNjurisdiction .3255SENT. [CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]3256LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS] Is3257VBZbe ...3258:... putting3259VVGput aside3260RPaside the3261DTthe question3262NNquestion of3263INof whether3264INwhether it3265PPit 's3266VBZbe pertinent3267JJpertinent to3268TOto the3269DTthe standing3270NNstanding analysis3271NNanalysis ,3272,, just3273RBjust so3274INso I3275PPI understand3276VVPunderstand the3277DTthe claims3278NNSclaim ,3279,, the3280DTthe disclosures3281NNSdisclosure go3282VVPgo to3283TOto any3284DTany searches3285NNSsearch that3286IN/thatthat somebody3287NNsomebody engages3288VVZengage in3289INin ,3290,, correct3291VVcorrect ?3292SENT? [MR. FRANK]3293LOC[MR. FRANK] That3294DTthat 's3295VBZbe correct3296JJcorrect .3297SENT. [CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]3298LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS] Okay3299NPOkay .3300SENT. So3301RBso it3302PPit may3303MDmay be3304VBbe that3305IN/thatthat they3306PPthey have3307VHPhave the3308DTthe wrong3309JJwrong named3310VVNname plaintiff3311NNplaintiff if3312INif the3313DTthe disclosures3314NNSdisclosure are3315VBPbe not3316RBnot private3317JJprivate ?3318SENT? [MR. FRANK]3319LOC[MR. FRANK] If3320INif ...3321:... if3322INif both3323DTboth Gaos3324NPGaos and3325CCand Italiano3326NPItaliano do3327VVPdo n't3328RBn't qualify3329VVqualify ,3330,, then3331RBthen they3332PPthey might3333MDmight have3334VHhave the3335DTthe wrong3336JJwrong named3337VVNname plaintiff3338NNplaintiff .3339SENT. If3340INif one3341CDone of3342INof the3343DTthe named3344VVNname plaintiffs3345NNSplaintiff satisfies3346VVZsatisfy it3347PPit ,3348,, though3349RBthough ,3350,, under3351INunder Rumsfeld3352NPRumsfeld versus3353CCversus FAIR3354JJfair ,3355,, that3356WDTthat would3357MDwould be3358VBbe sufficient3359JJsufficient .3360SENT. [CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]3361LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS] But3362CCbut it3363PPit ...3364:... but3365CCbut it3366PPit has3367VHZhave to3368TOto be3369VBbe one3370CDone of3371INof the3372DTthe named3373VVNname plaintiffs3374NNSplaintiff ?3375SENT? [MR. FRANK]3376LOC[MR. FRANK] It3377PPit does3378VVZdo have3379VHPhave to3380TOto be3381VBbe a3382DTa named3383VVNname plaintiff3384NNplaintiff .3385SENT. [JUSTICE GINSBURG]3386LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG] But3387CCbut your3388PP$your argument3389NNargument is3390VBZbe passing3391VVGpass standing3392NNstanding .3393SENT. You3394PPyou 're3395VBPbe not3396RBnot challenging3397VVGchallenge that3398DTthat ?3399SENT? [MR. FRANK]3400LOC[MR. FRANK] We3401PPwe 're3402VBPbe not3403RBnot challenging3404VVGchallenge standing3405NNstanding .3406SENT. We3407PPwe 're3408VBPbe not3409RBnot challenging3410VVGchallenge the3411DTthe court3412NNcourt 's3413POS's finding3414NNfinding ...3415:... nobody3416NNnobody is3417VBZbe challenging3418VVGchallenge the3419DTthe court3420NNcourt 's3421POS's finding3422NNfinding under3423INunder Rule3424NPRule 233425CD@card@ (3426(( a3427DTa )3428)) that3429IN/thatthat all3430PDTall the3431DTthe class3432NNclass members3433NNSmember have3434VHPhave a3435DTa common3436JJcommon injury3437NNinjury .3438SENT. The3439DTthe ...3440:... the3441DTthe Ninth3442JJninth Circu3443NPCircu it3444PPit 's3445VBZbe standard3446JJstandard creates3447VVZcreate perverse3448JJperverse incentives3449NNSincentive for3450INfor class3451NNclass counsel3452NNcounsel to3453TOto divert3454VVdivert money3455NNmoney away3456RBaway from3457INfrom their3458PP$their clients3459NNSclient and3460CCand to3461TOto third-parties3462NNSthird-parties .3463SENT. When3464WRBwhen courts3465NNScourt have3466VHPhave insisted3467VVNinsist that3468IN/thatthat attorneys3469NNSattorney do3470VVPdo n't3471RBn't get3472VVget paid3473VVNpay unless3474INunless their3475PP$their clients3476NNSclient get3477VVPget paid3478VVNpay ,3479,, the3480DTthe attorneys3481NNSattorney find3482VVPfind a3483DTa way3484NNway to3485TOto improve3486VVimprove the3487DTthe claims3488NNSclaim process3489NNprocess and3490CCand make3491VVmake money3492NNmoney get3493VVget to3494TOto the3495DTthe class3496NNclass .3497SENT. [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]3498LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] I3499PPI ...3500:... I3501PPI ...3502:... [JUSTICE ALITO]3503LOC[JUSTICE ALITO] Is3504VBZbe there3505RBthere ...3506:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]3507LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] ...3508:... I3509PPI ...3510:... I3511PPI understand3512VVPunderstand your3513PP$your fear3514NNfear ,3515,, but3516CCbut ,3517,, as3518INas I3519PPI look3520VVPlook at3521INat the3522DTthe full3523JJfull cy3524NNcy pres3525NNSpres awards3526NNSaward ,3527,, they3528PPthey 're3529VBPbe rare3530JJrare .3531SENT. The3532DTthe list3533NNlist that3534IN/thatthat I3535PPI 've3536VHPhave looked3537VVNlook at3538INat is3539VBZbe ,3540,, what3541WPwhat ,3542,, five3543CDfive in3544INin how3545WRBhow many3546JJmany years3547NNSyear ?3548SENT? It3549PPit 's3550VBZbe not3551RBnot as3552RBas if3553INif it3554PPit 's3555VBZbe occurring3556VVGoccur routinely3557RBroutinely ,3558,, number3559NNnumber one3560CDone .3561SENT. Number3562NNnumber two3563CDtwo ,3564,, you3565PPyou do3566VVPdo point3567NNpoint to3568TOto some3569DTsome potentially3570RBpotentially abusive3571JJabusive situations3572NNSsituation ,3573,, but3574CCbut in3575INin all3576PDTall those3577DTthose situations3578NNSsituation ,3579,, it3580PPit 's3581VBZbe the3582DTthe cases3583NNScase where3584WRBwhere the3585DTthe circuit3586NNcircuit court3587NNcourt rejected3588VVDreject a3589DTa cy3590NNcy pres3591NNSpres award3592NNaward .3593SENT. It3594PPit seems3595VVZseem like3596INlike the3597DTthe system3598NNsystem is3599VBZbe working3600VVGwork ,3601,, not3602RBnot not3603RBnot working3604VVGwork .3605SENT. [MR. FRANK]3606LOC[MR. FRANK] Well3607UHWell ,3608,, the3609DTthe system3610NNsystem will3611MDwill cease3612VVcease to3613TOto work3614VVwork if3615INif the3616DTthe Ninth3617JJninth Circu3618NPCircu it3619PPit 's3620VBZbe standard3621JJstandard is3622VBZbe affirmed3623VVNaffirm by3624INby this3625DTthis Court3626NPCourt .3627SENT. And3628CCand ,3629,, otherwise3630RBotherwise ,3631,, class3632NNclass counsel3633NNcounsel will3634MDwill direct3635VVdirect settlements3636NNSsettlement to3637TOto the3638DTthe Ninth3639JJninth Circuit3640NNcircuit .3641SENT. There3642EXthere are3643VBPbe two3644CDtwo all-pres3645JJall-pres settlements3646NNSsettlement with3647INwith just3648RBjust Google3649JJGoogle alone3650RBalone that3651WDTthat are3652VBPbe pending3653VVGpend ,3654,, waiting3655VVGwait for3656INfor resolution3657NNresolution of3658INof this3659DTthis decision3660NNdecision .3661SENT. And3662CCand the3663DTthe Ninth3664JJninth Circu3665NPCircu it3666PPit 's3667VBZbe standard3668JJstandard permits3669VVZpermit even3670RBeven hundred3671CDhundred million3672CDmillion dollar3673NNdollar settlements3674NNSsettlement ...3675:... [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]3676LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] How3677WRBHow is3678VBZbe the3679DTthe Ninth3680JJninth Circu3681NPCircu it3682PPit 's3683VBZbe standard3684NNstandard different3685JJdifferent than3686INthan all3687PDTall the3688DTthe other3689JJother standards3690NNSstandard ?3691SENT? I3692PPI thought3693VVDthink the3694DTthe circuits3695NNScircuit had3696VHDhave basically3697RBbasically coalesced3698VVNcoalesce around3699INaround the3700DTthe ALI3701NPAli three-factor3702NNthree-factor test3703NNtest .3704SENT. [MR. FRANK]3705LOC[MR. FRANK] The3706DTthe Ninth3707JJninth Circuit3708NNcircuit rejected3709VVDreject that3710RBthat .3711SENT. It3712PPit said3713VVDsay all3714PDTall that3715DTthat 's3716VBZbe needed3717VVNneed is3718VBZbe that3719IN/thatthat the3720DTthe money3721NNmoney is3722VBZbe de3723NPde minimis3724NPminimis per3725INper class3726NNclass member3727NNmember .3728SENT. And3729CCand that3730DTthat 's3731VBZbe at3732INat page3733NNpage 83734CD8 of3735INof the3736DTthe Petition3737NNpetition Appendix3738NNAppendix|appendix .3739SENT. And3740CCand we3741PPwe see3742VVPsee that3743IN/thatthat in3744INin our3745PP$our supplemental3746JJsupplemental brief3747NNbrief ,3748,, where3749WRBwhere we3750PPwe point3751VVPpoint out3752RPout that3753IN/thatthat in3754INin a3755DTa case3756NNcase with3757INwith 13758CD1 .3759SENT. 33760CD3 million3761CDmillion class3762NNclass members3763NNSmember where3764WRBwhere every3765DTevery class3766NNclass member3767NNmember is3768VBZbe identifiable3769JJidentifiable and3770CCand 33771CD3 to3772TOto 93773CD9 million3774CDmillion dollars3775NNSdollar left3776VVNleave over3777RPover ,3778,, the3779DTthe court3780NNcourt said3781VVDsay that3782WDTthat 's3783VBZbe de3784NPde minimis3785NPminimis and3786CCand it3787PPit 's3788VBZbe okay3789JJokay to3790TOto send3791VVsend all3792DTall of3793INof that3794WDTthat to3795TOto a3796DTa local3797JJlocal university3798NNuniversity where3799WRBwhere the3800DTthe defendant3801NNdefendant can3802MDcan name3803VVname a3804DTa chair3805NNchair after3806INafter itself3807PPitself .3808SENT. [JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]3809LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR] So3810RBso is3811VBZbe this3812DTthis appeal3813NNappeal all3814RBall about3815INabout feasibility3816NNfeasibility alone3817RBalone ?3818SENT? [MR. FRANK]3819LOC[MR. FRANK] No3820NPNo .3821SENT. The3822DTthe ...3823:... it3824PPit 's3825VBZbe about3826RBabout settlement3827NNsettlement fairness3828NNfairness under3829INunder Rule3830NPRule 233831CD@card@ (3832(( e3833NNe )3834)) .3835SENT. I3836PPI 'd3837MDwould like3838VVlike to3839TOto reserve3840VVreserve the3841DTthe rest3842NNrest of3843INof my3844PP$my time3845NNtime for3846INfor rebuttal3847NNrebuttal .3848SENT. [CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]3849LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS] Thank3850VVthank you3851PPyou ,3852,, counsel3853NNcounsel .3854SENT. General3855NPGeneral Wall3856NPWall .3857SENT.