[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]1LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]
We2PPwe
'll3MDwill
hear4VVhear
argument5NNargument
next6JJnext
in7INin
Case8NPCase
18-11509CD@card@
,10,,
Georgia11NPGeorgia
versus12CCversus
Public13NPPublic
.14SENT.
Resource15NPResource
.16SENT.
Org17NPOrg
,18,,
Inc19NPInc
.20SENT.
Mr21NPMr
.22SENT.
Johnson23NPJohnson
.24SENT.
[MR. JOHNSON]25LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
Mr26NPMr
.27SENT.
Chief28NPChief
Justice29NPJustice
,30,,
and31CCand
may32MDmay
it33PPit
please34VVplease
the35DTthe
Court36NPCourt
:37::
The38DTthe
Eleventh39JJeleventh
Circuit40NNcircuit
held41VVDhold
that42IN/thatthat
annotations43NNSannotation
to44TOto
Georgia45NPGeorgia
's46POS's
official47JJofficial
code48NNcode
are49VBPbe
categorically50RBcategorically
ineligible51JJineligible
for52INfor
copyright53NNcopyright
protection54NNprotection
.55SENT.
That56DTthat
holding57NNholding
conflicts58NNSconflict
with59INwith
a60DTa
straightforward61JJstraightforward
application62NNapplication
of63INof
the64DTthe
Copyright65NPCopyright
Act66NPAct
's67POS's
text68NNtext
and69CCand
this70DTthis
Court71NPCourt
's72POS's
precedents73NNSprecedent
.74SENT.
Starting75VVGstart
with76INwith
the77DTthe
statute78NNstatute
,79,,
Sections80NNSsection
and81CCand
10382CD@card@
of83INof
the84DTthe
Act85NPAct
expressly86RBexpressly
provide87VVPprovide
that88IN/thatthat
annotations89NNSannotation
are90VBPbe
copyrightable91JJcopyrightable
derivative92JJderivative
works93NNSwork
.94SENT.
Nothing95NNnothing
in96INin
the97DTthe
Act98NPAct
supports99VVZsupport
stripping100VVGstrip
Georgia101NPGeorgia
's102POS's
annotations103NNSannotation
of104INof
copyright105NNcopyright
protection106NNprotection
merely107RBmerely
because108INbecause
they109PPthey
were110VBDbe
prepared111VVNprepare
by112INby
a113DTa
contractor114NNcontractor
on115INon
behalf116NNbehalf
of117INof
a118DTa
state119NNstate
agency120NNagency
.121SENT.
Therefore122RBtherefore
,123,,
the124DTthe
crux125NNcrux
of126INof
the127DTthe
parties128NNSparty
'129POS'
dispute130NNdispute
is131VBZbe
whether132INwhether
this133DTthis
Court134NPCourt
's135POS's
19th-century136JJ19th-century
precedents137NNSprecedent
support138VVPsupport
a139DTa
decision140NNdecision
different141JJdifferent
from142INfrom
the143DTthe
one144CDone
that145WDTthat
would146MDwould
be147VBbe
reached148VVNreach
by149INby
applying150VVGapply
standard151JJstandard
interpretive152JJinterpretive
principles153NNSprinciple
to154TOto
the155DTthe
Copyright156NPCopyright
Act157NPAct
's158POS's
plain159JJplain
text160NNtext
.161SENT.
They162PPthey
do163VVPdo
not164RBnot
.165SENT.
In166INin
fact167NNfact
,168,,
those169DTthose
decisions170NNSdecision
strongly171RBstrongly
favor172VVPfavor
Georgia173NPGeorgia
.174SENT.
Together175RBtogether
,176,,
they177PPthey
hold178VVPhold
that179IN/thatthat
while180INwhile
judicial181JJjudicial
opinions182NNSopinion
are183VBPbe
not184RBnot
copyrightable185JJcopyrightable
,186,,
annotations187NNSannotation
added188VVDadd
to189TOto
opinions190NNSopinion
by191INby
a192DTa
court193NNcourt
's194POS's
official195JJofficial
reporter196NNreporter
are197VBPbe
copyrightable198JJcopyrightable
works199NNSwork
of200INof
authorship201NNauthorship
.202SENT.
Similarly203RBsimilarly
,204,,
while205INwhile
statutory206JJstatutory
text207NNtext
is208VBZbe
not209RBnot
copyrightable210JJcopyrightable
,211,,
annotated212VVDannotate
research213NNresearch
references214NNSreference
are215VBPbe
eligible216JJeligible
for217INfor
copyright218NNcopyright
protection219NNprotection
,220,,
even221RBeven
if222INif
they223PPthey
appear224VVPappear
in225INin
an226DTan
official227JJofficial
code228NNcode
book229NNbook
like230INlike
the231DTthe
OCGA232NPOCGA
.233SENT.
As234INas
a235DTa
diverse236JJdiverse
coalition237NNcoalition
of238INof
states239NNSstate
has240VHZhave
explained241VVNexplain
,242,,
affirming243VVGaffirm
the244DTthe
decision245NNdecision
below246RBbelow
would247MDwould
scuttle248VVscuttle
numerous249JJnumerous
states250NNSstate
'251POS'
regimes252NNSregime
for253INfor
publishing254VVGpublish
annotated255VVNannotate
official256NNofficial
codes257NNScode
.258SENT.
Absent259JJabsent
direction260NNdirection
from261INfrom
Congress262NPCongress
,263,,
this264DTthis
Court265NPCourt
should266MDshould
not267RBnot
extend268VVextend
a269DTa
judge-made270JJjudge-made
doctrine271NNdoctrine
to272TOto
override273VVoverride
the274DTthe
systems275NNSsystem
established276VVNestablish
by277INby
numerous278JJnumerous
states279NNSstate
'280POS'
democratically281RBdemocratically
elected282VVNelect
governments283NNSgovernment
.284SENT.
I285PPI
invite286VVinvite
questions287NNSquestion
.288SENT.
But289CCbut
as290INas
a291DTa
diverse292JJdiverse
...293:...
so294INso
PRO295NNpro
's296POS's
case297NNcase
rests298VVZrest
heavily299RBheavily
on300INon
an301DTan
expansive302JJexpansive
interpretation303NNinterpretation
of304INof
just305RBjust
a306DTa
few307JJfew
sentences308NNSsentence
of309INof
this310DTthis
Court311NPCourt
's312POS's
1888313CD@card@
Banks314NNSbank
decision315NNdecision
.316SENT.
But317CCbut
the318DTthe
Banks319NPSBanks
case320NNcase
really321RBreally
just322RBjust
explained323VVDexplain
its324PP$its
rationale325NNrationale
in326INin
a327DTa
single328JJsingle
sentence329NNsentence
,330,,
and331CCand
that332DTthat
sentence333NNsentence
says334VVZsay
that335IN/thatthat
the336DTthe
whole337JJwhole
work338NNwork
done339VVNdo
by340INby
the341DTthe
judges342NNSjudge
constitutes343VVZconstitute
the344DTthe
authentic345JJauthentic
exposition346NNexposition
and347CCand
interpretation348NNinterpretation
of349INof
the350DTthe
law351NNlaw
,352,,
which353WDTwhich
is354VBZbe
binding355VVGbind
on356INon
every357DTevery
citizen358NNcitizen
and359CCand
is360VBZbe
thus361RBthus
free362JJfree
for363INfor
publication364NNpublication
to365TOto
all366DTall
.367SENT.
So368RBso
we369PPwe
read370VVPread
that371DTthat
sentence372NNsentence
as373INas
establishing374VVGestablish
the375DTthe
principle376NNprinciple
that377IN/thatthat
a378DTa
work379NNwork
is380VBZbe
not381RBnot
copyrightable382JJcopyrightable
if383INif
it384PPit
is385VBZbe
of386INof
a387DTa
type388NNtype
that389WDTthat
can390MDcan
serve391VVserve
as392INas
a393DTa
vehicle394NNvehicle
for395INfor
establishing396VVGestablish
binding397JJbinding
law398NNlaw
.399SENT.
[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]400LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]
What401WPWhat
do402VVPdo
you403PPyou
understand404VVPunderstand
the405DTthe
significance406NNsignificance
to407TOto
be408VBbe
of409INof
the410DTthe
fact411NNfact
that412IN/thatthat
these413DTthese
annotations414NNSannotation
,415,,
the416DTthe
references417NNSreference
are418VBPbe
official419JJofficial
?420SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]421LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
I422PPI
...423:...
[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]424LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]
Does425VVZdo
that426DTthat
...427:...
does428VVZdo
that429RBthat
give430VVgive
them431PPthem
more432JJRmore
weight433NNweight
when434WRBwhen
they435PPthey
're436VBPbe
cited437VVNcite
to438TOto
the439DTthe
court440NNcourt
?441SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]442LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
No443NPNo
.444SENT.
And445CCand
I446PPI
think447VVPthink
that448IN/thatthat
the449DTthe
thing450NNthing
that451WDTthat
's452VBZbe
official453JJofficial
is454VBZbe
the455DTthe
code456NNcode
.457SENT.
So458RBso
it459PPit
's460VBZbe
the461DTthe
Official462NPOfficial
Code463NPCode
of464INof
Georgia465NPGeorgia
.466SENT.
[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]467LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]
Whether468INwhether
the469DTthe
...470:...
the471DTthe
...472:...
whatever473WDTwhatever
the474DTthe
additional475JJadditional
material476NNmaterial
is477VBZbe
included478VVNinclude
in479INin
...480:...
[MR. JOHNSON]481LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
It482PPit
does483VVZdo
appear484VVappear
in485INin
the486DTthe
same487JJsame
publication488NNpublication
.489SENT.
That490DTthat
's491VBZbe
correct492JJcorrect
.493SENT.
And494CCand
I495PPI
do496VVPdo
n't497RBn't
think498VVthink
that499IN/thatthat
that500WDTthat
makes501VVZmake
a502DTa
difference503NNdifference
for504INfor
purposes505NNSpurpose
of506INof
copyright507NNcopyright
under508INunder
this509DTthis
Court510NPCourt
's511POS's
precedent512NNprecedent
.513SENT.
And514CCand
I515PPI
think516VVPthink
that517IN/thatthat
that518DTthat
's519VBZbe
clear520JJclear
from521INfrom
Wheaton522NPWheaton
and523CCand
Callaghan524NPCallaghan
.525SENT.
So526RBso
,527,,
in528INin
both529DTboth
of530INof
those531DTthose
cases532NNScase
,533,,
the534DTthe
Court535NPCourt
said536VVDsay
that537IN/thatthat
a538DTa
court-appointed539JJcourt-appointed
official540NNofficial
reporter541NNreporter
could542MDcould
hold543VVhold
copyright544NNcopyright
in545INin
annotations546NNSannotation
that547WDTthat
appeared548VVDappear
in549INin
the550DTthe
reporter551NNreporter
volumes552NNSvolume
.553SENT.
So554INso
this555DTthis
case556NNcase
is557VBZbe
really558RBreally
just559RBjust
the560DTthe
legislative561JJlegislative
analogue562NNanalogue
of563INof
Callaghan564NPCallaghan
.565SENT.
In566INin
Callaghan567NPCallaghan
,568,,
the569DTthe
Court570NPCourt
held571VVDhold
that572IN/thatthat
the573DTthe
official574JJofficial
reporter575NNreporter
could576MDcould
hold577VVhold
copyright578NNcopyright
in579INin
things580NNSthing
like581INlike
headnotes582NNSheadnote
at583INat
the584DTthe
top585NNtop
of586INof
a587DTa
decision588NNdecision
.589SENT.
And590CCand
if591INif
you592PPyou
look593VVPlook
at594INat
the595DTthe
judicial596JJjudicial
decision597NNdecision
summaries598NNSsummary
in599INin
the600DTthe
OCGA601NPOCGA
,602,,
they603PPthey
are604VBPbe
materially605RBmaterially
indistinguishable606JJindistinguishable
from607INfrom
those608DTthose
headnotes609NNSheadnote
...610:...
[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]611LOC[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]
This612DTthis
case613NNcase
...614:...
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]615LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
Except616INexcept
...617:...
go618VVgo
ahead619RBahead
.620SENT.
[JUSTICE GINSBURG]621LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG]
But622CCbut
why623WRBwhy
is624VBZbe
n't625RBn't
...626:...
why627WRBwhy
is628VBZbe
n't629RBn't
the630DTthe
legislature631NNlegislature
like632INlike
the633DTthe
judge634NNjudge
?635SENT?
The636DTthe
...637:...
the638DTthe
judge639NNjudge
puts640VVZput
his641PP$his
imprimatur642NNimprimatur
on643INon
the644DTthe
annotations645NNSannotation
not646RBnot
copyrightable647JJcopyrightable
of648INof
the649DTthe
syllabus650NNsyllabus
.651SENT.
And652CCand
,653,,
here654RBhere
,655,,
it656PPit
's657VBZbe
the658DTthe
state659NNstate
legislature660NNlegislature
.661SENT.
Why662WRBwhy
do663VVPdo
you664PPyou
treat665VVtreat
the666DTthe
judge667NNjudge
and668CCand
the669DTthe
state670NNstate
legislature671NNlegislature
differently672RBdifferently
?673SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]674LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
Well675UHwell
,676,,
I677PPI
think678VVPthink
it679PPit
's680VBZbe
different681JJdifferent
because682INbecause
the683DTthe
general684JJgeneral
assembly685NNassembly
is686VBZbe
not687RBnot
enacting688VVGenact
individual689JJindividual
annotations690NNSannotation
through691INthrough
bicameralism692NNbicameralism
and693CCand
presentment694NNpresentment
.695SENT.
So696INso
the697DTthe
annotations698NNSannotation
are699VBPbe
first700RBfirst
prepared701VVNprepare
by702INby
a703DTa
commercial704JJcommercial
publisher705NNpublisher
,706,,
so707RBso
by708INby
a709DTa
contractor710NNcontractor
,711,,
and712CCand
they713PPthey
do714VVPdo
that715IN/thatthat
subject716JJsubject
to717TOto
the718DTthe
supervision719NNsupervision
of720INof
the721DTthe
Code722NPCode
Revision723NPRevision
Commission724NPCommission
.725SENT.
[JUSTICE GINSBURG]726LOC[JUSTICE GINSBURG]
But727CCbut
they728PPthey
do729VVPdo
it730PPit
as731RBas
...732:...
as733INas
a734DTa
...735:...
what736WPwhat
do737VVPdo
they738PPthey
call739VVPcall
it740PPit
,741,,
authors742NNSauthor
for743INfor
hire744NNhire
.745SENT.
So746INso
the747DTthe
one748CDone
that749WDTthat
would750MDwould
hold751VVhold
the752DTthe
copyright753NNcopyright
would754MDwould
be755VBbe
the756DTthe
state757NNstate
.758SENT.
[MR. JOHNSON]759LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
The760DTthe
state761NNstate
does762VVZdo
hold763VVhold
the764DTthe
copyright765NNcopyright
,766,,
that767WDTthat
is768VBZbe
correct769JJcorrect
,770,,
very771RBvery
much772RBmuch
like773VVlike
how774WRBhow
an775DTan
official776JJofficial
reporter777NNreporter
held778VVDhold
the779DTthe
copyright780NNcopyright
in781INin
Wheaton782NPWheaton
and783CCand
Callaghan784NPCallaghan
.785SENT.
So786RBso
,787,,
here788RBhere
,789,,
the790DTthe
Code791NPCode
Revision792NPRevision
Commission793NPCommission
,794,,
acting795VVGact
on796INon
behalf797NNbehalf
of798INof
the799DTthe
state800NNstate
,801,,
obtains802VVZobtain
a803DTa
copyright804NNcopyright
for805INfor
the806DTthe
state807NNstate
.808SENT.
But809CCbut
I810PPI
think811VVPthink
the812DTthe
crucial813JJcrucial
point814NNpoint
under815INunder
Banks816NNSbank
is817VBZbe
that818IN/thatthat
the819DTthe
annotations820NNSannotation
are821VBPbe
not822RBnot
individually823RBindividually
reviewed824VVNreview
by825INby
legislators826NNSlegislator
.827SENT.
They828PPthey
do829VVPdo
not830RBnot
go831VVgo
through832INthrough
the833DTthe
process834NNprocess
of835INof
bicameralism836NNbicameralism
and837CCand
presentment838NNpresentment
.839SENT.
So840RBso
...841:...
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]842LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
Well843UHWell
,844,,
but845RBbut
,846,,
counsel847NNcounsel
,848,,
are849VBPbe
n't850RBn't
they851PPthey
approved852VVDapprove
?853SENT?
I854PPI
thought855VVDthink
they856PPthey
were857VBDbe
at858INat
least859JJSleast
approved860VVNapprove
as861INas
a862DTa
whole863NNwhole
by864INby
the865DTthe
legislature866NNlegislature
.867SENT.
[MR. JOHNSON]868LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
So869INso
I870PPI
think871VVPthink
the872DTthe
Eleventh873JJeleventh
Circu874NPCircu
it875PPit
's876POS's
decision877NNdecision
is878VBZbe
perhaps879RBperhaps
a880DTa
little881RBlittle
confusing882JJconfusing
on883INon
this884DTthis
issue885NNissue
,886,,
but887CCbut
I888PPI
do889VVPdo
n't890RBn't
think891VVthink
that892IN/thatthat
there893EXthere
's894VBZbe
any895DTany
disagreement896NNdisagreement
about897INabout
the898DTthe
underlying899VVGunderlie
facts900NNSfact
.901SENT.
The902DTthe
answer903NNanswer
is904VBZbe
,905,,
as906INas
the907DTthe
Eleventh908JJeleventh
Circuit909NNcircuit
said910VVDsay
in911INin
its912PP$its
opinion913NNopinion
,914,,
the915DTthe
annotations916NNSannotation
are917VBPbe
not918RBnot
individually919RBindividually
enacted920VVNenact
.921SENT.
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]922LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
I923PPI
...924:...
I925PPI
understand926VVPunderstand
that927RBthat
.928SENT.
I929PPI
...930:...
I931PPI
posited932VVDposit
that933IN/thatthat
in934INin
my935PP$my
question936NNquestion
to937TOto
you938PPyou
.939SENT.
[MR. JOHNSON]940LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
Right941NPRight
,942,,
right943RBright
.944SENT.
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]945LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
Are946VBPbe
n't947RBn't
they948PPthey
approved949VVDapprove
as950INas
a951DTa
whole952NNwhole
by953INby
the954DTthe
legislature955NNlegislature
?956SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]957LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
So958INso
what959WPwhat
the960DTthe
legislature961NNlegislature
does962VVZdo
every963DTevery
year964NNyear
is965VBZbe
passes966NNSpass
a967DTa
reviser968NNreviser
act969NNact
,970,,
and971CCand
the972DTthe
reviser973NNreviser
act974NNact
reenacts975VVZreenact
the976DTthe
code977NNcode
,978,,
including979VVGinclude
OCGA980NPOCGA
1-1-1981CD@card@
,982,,
which983WDTwhich
calls984VVZcall
for985INfor
the986DTthe
statutory987JJstatutory
text988NNtext
to989TOto
be990VBbe
merged991VVNmerge
with992INwith
the993DTthe
annotations994NNSannotation
.995SENT.
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]996LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
Okay997NPOkay
.998SENT.
All999DTall
right1000NNright
.1001SENT.
So1002RBso
,1003,,
if1004INif
that1005WDTthat
's1006VBZbe
the1007DTthe
case1008NNcase
,1009,,
and1010CCand
you1011PPyou
include1012VVPinclude
the1013DTthe
word1014NNword
"1015``"
official1016NNofficial
"1017''"
on1018INon
it1019PPit
,1020,,
presumably1021RBpresumably
,1022,,
you1023PPyou
're1024VBPbe
doing1025VVGdo
that1026IN/thatthat
to1027TOto
create1028VVcreate
some1029DTsome
value1030NNvalue
for1031INfor
the1032DTthe
reporter1033NNreporter
.1034SENT.
Why1035WRBwhy
would1036MDwould
we1037PPwe
allow1038VVallow
the1039DTthe
official1040JJofficial
law1041NNlaw
enacted1042VVNenact
by1043INby
a1044DTa
legislature1045NNlegislature
,1046,,
approved1047VVDapprove
...1048:...
equivalent1049NNequivalent
of1050INof
being1051VBGbe
approved1052VVNapprove
by1053INby
a1054DTa
judge1055NNjudge
in1056INin
annotations1057NNSannotation
,1058,,
as1059INas
Justice1060NPJustice
Ginsburg1061NPGinsburg
indicated1062VVDindicate
,1063,,
why1064WRBwhy
would1065MDwould
we1066PPwe
allow1067VVallow
the1068DTthe
official1069JJofficial
law1070NNlaw
to1071TOto
be1072VBbe
hidden1073VVNhide
behind1074INbehind
a1075DTa
pay1076NNpay
wall1077NNwall
?1078SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]1079LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
So1080INso
I1081PPI
do1082VVPdo
n't1083RBn't
think1084VVthink
that1085IN/thatthat
adopting1086VVGadopt
our1087PP$our
position1088NNposition
would1089MDwould
cause1090VVcause
the1091DTthe
law1092NNlaw
to1093TOto
be1094VBbe
hidden1095VVNhide
behind1096INbehind
a1097DTa
pay1098NNpay
wall1099NNwall
.1100SENT.
First1101RBfirst
,1102,,
the1103DTthe
law1104NNlaw
is1105VBZbe
available1106JJavailable
on1107INon
Lexis1108NPLexis
's1109POS's
website1110NNwebsite
.1111SENT.
And1112CCand
also1113RBalso
,1114,,
PRO1115FWpro
is1116VBZbe
free1117JJfree
to1118TOto
cut1119VVcut
...1120:...
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]1121LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
But1122CCbut
not1123RBnot
the1124DTthe
annotations1125NNSannotation
that1126IN/thatthat
the1127DTthe
legislature1128NNlegislature
has1129VHZhave
,1130,,
in1131INin
some1132DTsome
fashion1133NNfashion
or1134CCor
another1135DTanother
,1136,,
given1137VVNgive
its1138PP$its
official1139JJofficial
approval1140NNapproval
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?2347SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]2348LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
I2349PPI
think2350VVPthink
we2351PPwe
...2352:...
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]2353LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
And2354CCand
if2355INif
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going2358VVGgo
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the2389DTthe
law2390NNlaw
?2391SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]2392LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
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I2394PPI
think2395VVPthink
we2396PPwe
win2397VVwin
if2398INif
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is2400VBZbe
the2401DTthe
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I2405PPI
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the2431DTthe
question2432NNquestion
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the2436DTthe
...2437:...
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]2438LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
No2439RBno
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does2442VVZdo
n't2443RBn't
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a2487DTa
contract-for-hire2488NNcontract-for-hire
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do2511VVPdo
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I2514PPI
can2515MDcan
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a2517DTa
copy2518NNcopy
...2519:...
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she2522PPshe
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I2530PPI
do2531VVPdo
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I2534PPI
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a2537DTa
copyright2538NNcopyright
in2539INin
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as2542INas
a2543DTa
work-for-hire2544NNwork-for-hire
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[MR. JOHNSON]2546LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
Well2547UHWell
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I2549PPI
...2550:...
I2551PPI
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.2675SENT.
[JUSTICE KAGAN]2676LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
Mr2677NPMr
.2678SENT.
Johnson2679NPJohnson
,2680,,
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does2682VVZdo
Georgia2683NPGeorgia
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just2692RBjust
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official2694JJofficial
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?2696SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]2697LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
I2698PPI
think2699VVPthink
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I2716PPI
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a2748DTa
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price2751NNprice
.2752SENT.
[JUSTICE BREYER]2753LOC[JUSTICE BREYER]
Probably2754RBprobably
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,2758,,
I2759PPI
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,2761,,
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,2855,,
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22946CD2
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guess2949VVPguess
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,2957,,
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as2960INas
I2961PPI
understand2962VVPunderstand
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acceptable2965JJacceptable
to2966TOto
you2967PPyou
?2968SENT?
[MR. JOHNSON]2969LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
The2970NPThe
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[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]3023LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]
Thank3024VVthank
you3025PPyou
,3026,,
counsel3027NNcounsel
.3028SENT.
Mr3029NPMr
.3030SENT.
Yang3031NPYang
.3032SENT.
[MR. YANG]3033LOC[MR. YANG]
Mr3034NPMr
.3035SENT.
Chief3036NPChief
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...3229:...
[JUSTICE KAGAN]3230LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
Mr3231NPMr
.3232SENT.
Yang3233NPYang
...3234:...
I3235PPI
'm3236VBPbe
sorry3237JJsorry
.3238SENT.
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[MR. YANG]3243LOC[MR. YANG]
Well3244UHwell
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[JUSTICE KAGAN]3311LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
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[MR. YANG]3322LOC[MR. YANG]
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[JUSTICE KAGAN]3334LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
I'm3335NPI'm
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[MR. YANG]3409LOC[MR. YANG]
I3410PPI
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...3452:...
[JUSTICE KAGAN]3453LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
Are3454VBPbe
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...3470:...
[MR. YANG]3471LOC[MR. YANG]
Well3472UHWell
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...3531:...
[JUSTICE KAGAN]3532LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
So3533RBso
...3534:...
so3535RBso
...3536:...
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this3552DTthis
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.3554SENT.
[MR. YANG]3555LOC[MR. YANG]
Yep3556NPYep
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[JUSTICE KAGAN]3558LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
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...3593:...
[MR. YANG]3594LOC[MR. YANG]
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's3674VBZbe
a3675DTa
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[JUSTICE KAGAN]3679LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
Well3680UHWell
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the3686DTthe
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is3696VBZbe
all3697RBall
about3698RBabout
.3699SENT.
[MR. YANG]3700LOC[MR. YANG]
Well3701UHWell
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they3704PPthey
looked3705VVDlook
at3706INat
the3707DTthe
annotations3708NNSannotation
...3709:...
[JUSTICE KAGAN]3710LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
And3711CCand
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Commission3714NPCommission
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...3719:...
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means3738VVZmean
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[MR. YANG]3746LOC[MR. YANG]
I3747PPI
do3748VVPdo
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Callaghan3774NPCallaghan
,3775,,
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reporter3777NNreporter
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at3779INat
least3780JJSleast
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,3785,,
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?3787SENT?
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removed3791VVNremove
by3792INby
the3793DTthe
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,3795,,
was3796VBDbe
hired3797VVNhire
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the3822DTthe
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the3833DTthe
legislature3834NNlegislature
,3835,,
and3836CCand
even3837RBeven
there3838RBthere
it3839PPit
's3840VBZbe
attenuated3841VVNattenuate
.3842SENT.
[JUSTICE KAGAN]3843LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
So3844INso
you3845PPyou
think3846VVPthink
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if3848INif
the3849DTthe
Commission3850NPCommission
actually3851RBactually
wrote3852VVDwrite
the3853DTthe
annotations3854NNSannotation
,3855,,
it3856PPit
would3857MDwould
still3858RBstill
...3859:...
[MR. YANG]3860LOC[MR. YANG]
That3861DTthat
's3862VBZbe
right3863JJright
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...3866:...
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,3898,,
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secondary3937JJsecondary
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things3943NNSthing
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It3945PPit
...3946:...
it3947PPit
's3948VBZbe
finding3949VVGfind
...3950:...
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]3951LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
Would3952MDwould
it3953PPit
make3954VVmake
a3955DTa
difference3956NNdifference
if3957INif
...3958:...
if3959INif
,3960,,
instead3961RBinstead
of3962INof
the3963DTthe
Commission3964NPCommission
,3965,,
it3966PPit
were3967VBDbe
done3968VVNdo
by3969INby
the3970DTthe
legislature3971NNlegislature
itself3972PPitself
?3973SENT?
[MR. YANG]3974LOC[MR. YANG]
You3975PPyou
know3976VVPknow
,3977,,
I3978PPI
think3979VVPthink
that3980IN/thatthat
would3981MDwould
be3982VBbe
a3983DTa
little3984RBlittle
more3985RBRmore
complicated3986JJcomplicated
.3987SENT.
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]3988LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
But3989CCbut
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is3993VBZbe
...3994:...
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describe3996VVdescribe
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judges3998NNSjudge
do3999VVPdo
.4000SENT.
[MR. YANG]4001LOC[MR. YANG]
After4002INafter
the4003DTthe
...4004:...
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]4005LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
That4006DTthat
's4007VBZbe
it4008PPit
.4009SENT.
[MR. YANG]4010LOC[MR. YANG]
Oh4011UHoh
,4012,,
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,4014,,
I4015PPI
think4016VVPthink
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same4021JJsame
.4022SENT.
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]4023LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
Okay4024NPOkay
.4025SENT.
[MR. YANG]4026LOC[MR. YANG]
I4027PPI
...4028:...
I4029PPI
think4030VVPthink
you4031PPyou
would4032MDwould
...4033:...
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]4034LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
Let4035NPLet
's4036POS's
say4037VVPsay
it4038PPit
was4039VBDbe
adopted4040VVNadopt
by4041INby
the4042DTthe
legislature4043NNlegislature
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,4045,,
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let4047VVlet
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that4062WDTthat
does4063VVZdo
market4064NNmarket
...4065:...
market4066NNmarket
power-wise4067RBpower-wise
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what4070WPwhat
?4071SENT?
[MR. YANG]4072LOC[MR. YANG]
Well4073UHWell
,4074,,
if4075INif
it4076PPit
's4077VBZbe
done4078VVNdo
as4079INas
it4080PPit
is4081VBZbe
done4082VVNdo
here4083RBhere
,4084,,
which4085WDTwhich
I4086PPI
think4087VVPthink
,4088,,
if4089INif
you4090PPyou
look4091VVPlook
,4092,,
for4093INfor
instance4094NNinstance
,4095,,
in4096INin
the4097DTthe
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I4121PPI
mean4122VVPmean
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by4126INby
the4127DTthe
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,4129,,
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counsel4131NNcounsel
,4132,,
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a4149DTa
true4150JJtrue
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[JUSTICE GORSUCH]4176LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
All4177DTall
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[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]4180LOC[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]
Is4181VBZbe
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a4183DTa
different4184JJdifferent
...4185:...
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]4186LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
Nice4187NPNice
evasion4188NNevasion
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we4192PPwe
could4193MDcould
just4194RBjust
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[MR. YANG]4202LOC[MR. YANG]
No4203UHNo
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no4205UHno
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I4210PPI
do4211VVPdo
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...4214:...
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]4215LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
...4216:...
I4217PPI
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do4260VVPdo
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[MR. YANG]4268LOC[MR. YANG]
Yes4269NPYes
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are4273VBPbe
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way4279NNway
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is4282VBZbe
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're4285VBPbe
...4286:...
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]4287LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
Because4288INbecause
it4289PPit
's4290VBZbe
not4291RBnot
...4292:...
[MR. YANG]4293LOC[MR. YANG]
...4294:...
they4295PPthey
're4296VBPbe
covering4297VVGcover
the4298DTthe
waterfront4299NNwaterfront
.4300SENT.
[JUSTICE GORSUCH]4301LOC[JUSTICE GORSUCH]
...4302:...
in4303INin
the4304DTthe
same4305JJsame
capacity4306NNcapacity
,4307,,
right4308RBright
?4309SENT?
I4310PPI
mean4311VVPmean
,4312,,
that4313WDTthat
's4314VBZbe
what4315WPwhat
it4316PPit
comes4317VVZcome
down4318RPdown
to4319TOto
.4320SENT.
It4321PPit
's4322VBZbe
not4323RBnot
in4324INin
its4325PP$its
legislative4326JJlegislative
capacity4327NNcapacity
.4328SENT.
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's4330VBZbe
in4331INin
some4332DTsome
other4333JJother
abstract4334JJabstract
capacity4335NNcapacity
in4336INin
which4337WDTwhich
a4338DTa
legislature4339NNlegislature
can4340MDcan
act4341VVact
.4342SENT.
[MR. YANG]4343LOC[MR. YANG]
That4344DTthat
is4345VBZbe
our4346PP$our
understanding4347NNunderstanding
as4348INas
drawn4349VVNdraw
from4350INfrom
Banks4351NNSbank
.4352SENT.
[JUSTICE BREYER]4353LOC[JUSTICE BREYER]
Then4354RBthen
the4355DTthe
answer4356NNanswer
is4357VBZbe
no4358UHno
.4359SENT.
Then4360RBthen
the4361DTthe
answer4362NNanswer
is4363VBZbe
no4364RBno
to4365TOto
his4366PP$his
question4367NNquestion
,4368,,
because4369INbecause
the4370DTthe
...4371:...
the4372DTthe
whole4373JJwhole
point4374NNpoint
,4375,,
I4376PPI
thought4377VVDthink
,4378,,
is4379VBZbe
that4380IN/thatthat
you4381PPyou
could4382MDcould
very4383RBvery
abstractly4384RBabstractly
,4385,,
the4386DTthe
no4387RBno
explains4388VVZexplain
it4389PPit
,4390,,
I4391PPI
do4392VVPdo
,4393,,
says4394VVZsay
the4395DTthe
bride4396NNbride
,4397,,
you4398PPyou
can4399MDcan
't4400RB't
copyright4401NNcopyright
that4402RBthat
.4403SENT.
It4404PPit
's4405VBZbe
being4406VBGbe
used4407VVNuse
as4408INas
a4409DTa
performative4410NNperformative
.4411SENT.
It4412PPit
's4413VBZbe
not4414RBnot
an4415DTan
expression4416NNexpression
.4417SENT.
Now4418RBnow
take4419VVtake
that4420DTthat
idea4421NNidea
and4422CCand
bring4423VVbring
it4424PPit
down4425RPdown
to4426TOto
the4427DTthe
legislature4428NNlegislature
and4429CCand
making4430VVGmake
laws4431NNSlaw
.4432SENT.
Where4433WRBwhere
you4434PPyou
have4435VHPhave
some4436DTsome
words4437NNSword
on4438INon
pieces4439NNSpiece
of4440INof
paper4441NNpaper
and4442CCand
they4443PPthey
are4444VBPbe
performing4445VVGperform
a4446DTa
function4447NNfunction
that4448WDTthat
is4449VBZbe
a4450DTa
legislative4451JJlegislative
function4452NNfunction
or4453CCor
a4454DTa
judicial4455JJjudicial
function4456NNfunction
,4457,,
no4458UHno
,4459,,
it4460PPit
's4461VBZbe
not4462RBnot
solely4463RBsolely
an4464DTan
expression4465NNexpression
;4466:;
it4467PPit
's4468VBZbe
performing4469VVGperform
a4470DTa
function4471NNfunction
,4472,,
and4473CCand
we4474PPwe
do4475VVPdo
n't4476RBn't
allow4477VVallow
it4478PPit
because4479INbecause
to4480TOto
let4481VVlet
a4482DTa
monopolist4483NNmonopolist
get4484VVget
ahold4485NNahold
of4486INof
that4487WDTthat
is4488VBZbe
dangerous4489JJdangerous
.4490SENT.
[MR. YANG]4491LOC[MR. YANG]
Well4492UHwell
,4493,,
I4494PPI
do4495VVPdo
n't4496RBn't
think4497VVthink
...4498:...
[JUSTICE BREYER]4499LOC[JUSTICE BREYER]
And4500CCand
that4501DTthat
...4502:...
that4503WDTthat
's4504VBZbe
...4505:...
that4506WDTthat
's4507VBZbe
what4508WPwhat
I4509PPI
thought4510VVDthink
that4511IN/thatthat
the4512DTthe
argument4513NNargument
was4514VBDbe
as4515INas
I4516PPI
got4517VVDget
the4518DTthe
entire4519JJentire
brief4520NNbrief
.4521SENT.
[MR. YANG]4522LOC[MR. YANG]
I4523PPI
'm4524VBPbe
not4525RBnot
sure4526RBsure
there4527EXthere
's4528VBZbe
any4529DTany
disagreement4530NNdisagreement
.4531SENT.
What4532WPWhat
I4533PPI
intended4534VVDintend
to4535TOto
say4536VVsay
was4537VBDbe
that4538IN/thatthat
the4539DTthe
annotations4540NNSannotation
would4541MDwould
be4542VBbe
copyrightable4543JJcopyrightable
;4544:;
the4545DTthe
statute4546NNstatute
would4547MDwould
not4548RBnot
.4549SENT.
If4550INif
it4551PPit
is4552VBZbe
a4553DTa
description4554NNdescription
of4555INof
what4556WPwhat
other4557JJother
parties4558NNSparty
are4559VBPbe
doing4560VVGdo
,4561,,
there4562EXthere
's4563VBZbe
no4564RBno
particular4565JJparticular
...4566:...
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]4567LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
I4568PPI
...4569:...
I4570PPI
'm4571VBPbe
sorry4572JJsorry
,4573,,
I4574PPI
do4575VVPdo
n't4576RBn't
understand4577VVunderstand
.4578SENT.
I'm4579NNI'm
...4580:...
now4581RBnow
I4582PPI
'm4583VBPbe
turned4584VVNturn
between4585INbetween
my4586PP$my
two4587CDtwo
colleagues4588NNScolleague
.4589SENT.
[MR. YANG]4590LOC[MR. YANG]
Well4591UHWell
,4592,,
maybe4593RBmaybe
this4594DTthis
will4595MDwill
clarify4596VVclarify
.4597SENT.
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]4598LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
Let4599VVDlet
me4600PPme
...4601:...
let4602VVlet
me4603PPme
clarify4604VVclarify
...4605:...
let4606VVlet
me4607PPme
just4608RBjust
get4609VVget
to4610TOto
something4611NNsomething
very4612RBvery
simple4613JJsimple
,4614,,
okay4615JJokay
?4616SENT?
Let4617VVlet
's4618VBZbe
assume4619VVassume
there4620EXthere
are4621VBPbe
some4622DTsome
states4623NNSstate
that4624WDTthat
have4625VHPhave
pro4626FWpro
se4627FWse
guidelines4628NNSguideline
.4629SENT.
To4630TOTo
pro4631FWpro
se4632FWse
litigants4633NNSlitigant
,4634,,
this4635DTthis
is4636VBZbe
how4637WRBhow
you4638PPyou
follow4639VVPfollow
the4640DTthe
law4641NNlaw
.4642SENT.
Could4643MDcould
they4644PPthey
copyright4645VVcopyright
those4646DTthose
and4647CCand
...4648:...
and4649CCand
charge4650NNcharge
for4651INfor
them4652PPthem
and4653CCand
preclude4654VVpreclude
others4655NNSother
from4656INfrom
copying4657VVGcopy
them4658PPthem
and4659CCand
disseminating4660VVGdisseminate
them4661PPthem
?4662SENT?
[MR. YANG]4663LOC[MR. YANG]
If4664INif
,4665,,
for4666INfor
instance4667NNinstance
,4668,,
this4669DTthis
is4670VBZbe
like4671INlike
a4672DTa
...4673:...
your4674PP$your
...4675:...
it4676PPit
's4677VBZbe
...4678:...
let4679VVlet
me4680PPme
draw4681VVdraw
an4682DTan
example4683NNexample
.4684SENT.
When4685WRBwhen
you4686PPyou
do4687VVPdo
...4688:...
when4689WRBwhen
the4690DTthe
court4691NNcourt
adopts4692VVZadopt
rules4693NNSrule
for4694INfor
...4695:...
Federal4696NPFederal
Rules4697NPSRules
of4698INof
Civil4699NPCivil
Procedure4700NPProcedure
or4701CCor
otherwise4702RBotherwise
,4703,,
there4704EXthere
are4705VBPbe
often4706RBoften
advisory4707JJadvisory
committee4708NNcommittee
notes4709NNSnote
that4710WDTthat
explain4711VVPexplain
kind4712NNkind
of4713INof
context4714NNcontext
.4715SENT.
We4716PPwe
understand4717VVPunderstand
...4718:...
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]4719LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
Right4720RBright
.4721SENT.
Is4722VBZbe
that4723IN/thatthat
copyrightable4724JJcopyrightable
?4725SENT?
[MR. YANG]4726LOC[MR. YANG]
We4727PPwe
understand4728VVPunderstand
that4729DTthat
...4730:...
no4731UHno
,4732,,
we4733PPwe
understand4734VVPunderstand
that4735IN/thatthat
to4736TOto
be4737VBbe
in4738INin
the4739DTthe
context4740NNcontext
of4741INof
the4742DTthe
rule-making4743NNrule-making
proceeding4744NNproceeding
.4745SENT.
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]4746LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
All4747DTall
right4748NNright
.4749SENT.
[MR. YANG]4750LOC[MR. YANG]
All4751DTall
right4752NNright
.4753SENT.
Now4754RBnow
...4755:...
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]4756LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
So4757RBso
why4758WRBwhy
is4759VBZbe
that4760IN/thatthat
different4761JJdifferent
if4762INif
...4763:...
and4764CCand
I4765PPI
think4766VVPthink
your4767PP$your
brief4768NNbrief
made4769VVDmake
very4770RBvery
clear4771JJclear
,4772,,
committee4773NNcommittee
reports4774NNSreport
,4775,,
even4776RBeven
on4777INon
failed4778JJfailed
legislation4779NNlegislation
,4780,,
would4781MDwould
n't4782RBn't
be4783VBbe
copyrightable4784JJcopyrightable
.4785SENT.
Materials4786NNSmaterial
prepared4787VVNprepare
for4788INfor
that4789DTthat
process4790NNprocess
are4791VBPbe
not4792RBnot
copyrightable4793JJcopyrightable
unless4794INunless
the4795DTthe
individual4796NNindividual
...4797:...
the4798DTthe
state4799NNstate
did4800VVDdo
n't4801RBn't
require4802VVrequire
them4803PPthem
or4804CCor
...4805:...
or4806CCor
create4807VVcreate
them4808PPthem
.4809SENT.
So4810RBso
why4811WRBwhy
is4812VBZbe
it4813PPit
that4814IN/thatthat
an4815DTan
official4816JJofficial
guide4817NNguide
to4818TOto
an4819DTan
official4820JJofficial
code4821NNcode
where4822WRBwhere
the4823DTthe
annotations4824NNSannotation
merge4825VVPmerge
with4826INwith
that4827DTthat
code4828NNcode
that4829WDTthat
are4830VBPbe
prepared4831VVNprepare
by4832INby
the4833DTthe
state4834NNstate
,4835,,
why4836WRBwhy
are4837VBPbe
n't4838RBn't
those4839DTthose
copyrightable4840JJcopyrightable
?4841SENT?
[MR. YANG]4842LOC[MR. YANG]
There4843EXthere
's4844VBZbe
a4845DTa
...4846:...
[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]4847LOC[JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR]
Why4848WRBwhy
are4849VBPbe
n't4850RBn't
they4851PPthey
like4852VVPlike
...4853:...
[MR. YANG]4854LOC[MR. YANG]
There4855EXthere
's4856VBZbe
a4857DTa
few4858JJfew
things4859NNSthing
that4860WDTthat
are4861VBPbe
,4862,,
I4863PPI
think4864VVPthink
,4865,,
incorrect4866JJincorrect
in4867INin
the4868DTthe
premise4869NNpremise
.4870SENT.
One4871CDOne
,4872,,
if4873INif
you4874PPyou
look4875VVPlook
at4876INat
Callaghan4877NPCallaghan
,4878,,
you4879PPyou
had4880VHDhave
annotations4881NNSannotation
by4882INby
the4883DTthe
official4884JJofficial
court4885NNcourt
reporter4886NNreporter
,4887,,
superintended4888VVNsuperintend
by4889INby
the4890DTthe
court4891NNcourt
,4892,,
combined4893VVNcombine
in4894INin
a4895DTa
single4896JJsingle
volume4897NNvolume
,4898,,
still4899RBstill
copyrightable4900JJcopyrightable
.4901SENT.
So4902INso
the4903DTthe
fact4904NNfact
that4905IN/thatthat
they4906PPthey
're4907VBPbe
together4908RBtogether
,4909,,
not4910RBnot
relevant4911JJrelevant
.4912SENT.
Second4913RBsecond
,4914,,
when4915WRBwhen
we4916PPwe
're4917VBPbe
talking4918VVGtalk
about4919INabout
annotations4920NNSannotation
here4921RBhere
,4922,,
we4923PPwe
're4924VBPbe
talking4925VVGtalk
about4926INabout
a4927DTa
description4928NNdescription
of4929INof
case4930NNcase
14931CD1
.4932SENT.
Case4933NNcase
14934CD1
says4935VVZsay
the4936DTthe
statute4937NNstatute
means4938VVZmean
X4939NNX
;4940:;
case4941NNcase
24942CD2
means4943NNSmean
the4944DTthe
statute4945NNstatute
means4946VVZmean
Y4947NNY
.4948SENT.
They4949PPthey
reproduce4950VVPreproduce
both4951DTboth
of4952INof
them4953PPthem
.4954SENT.
They4955PPthey
're4956VBPbe
not4957RBnot
saying4958VVGsay
that4959DTthat
...4960:...
[JUSTICE KAGAN]4961LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
Suppose4962VVsuppose
that4963WDTthat
were4964VBDbe
n't4965RBn't
true4966JJtrue
.4967SENT.
[JUSTICE ALITO]4968LOC[JUSTICE ALITO]
So4969RBso
is4970VBZbe
it4971PPit
...4972:...
[MR. YANG]4973LOC[MR. YANG]
...4974:...
is4975VBZbe
n't4976RBn't
the4977DTthe
law4978NNlaw
.4979SENT.
[JUSTICE KAGAN]4980LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
Suppose4981VVsuppose
the4982DTthe
Commission4983NPCommission
,4984,,
when4985WRBwhen
it4986PPit
supervised4987VVDsupervise
,4988,,
part4989NNpart
of4990INof
its4991PP$its
supervision4992NNsupervision
,4993,,
it4994PPit
looked4995VVDlook
over4996INover
the4997DTthe
annotations4998NNSannotation
and4999CCand
it5000PPit
picked5001VVDpick
out5002RPout
a5003DTa
few5004JJfew
that5005IN/thatthat
it5006PPit
thought5007VVDthink
were5008VBDbe
egregiously5009RBegregiously
wrong5010JJwrong
in5011INin
terms5012NNSterm
of5013INof
interpreting5014VVGinterpret
the5015DTthe
law5016NNlaw
.5017SENT.
Would5018MDwould
that5019RBthat
make5020VVmake
a5021DTa
difference5022NNdifference
?5023SENT?
[MR. YANG]5024LOC[MR. YANG]
You5025PPyou
know5026VVPknow
,5027,,
I5028PPI
think5029VVPthink
it5030PPit
would5031MDwould
start5032VVstart
to5033TOto
be5034VBbe
a5035DTa
little5036RBlittle
harder5037JJRhard
.5038SENT.
It5039PPit
starts5040VVZstart
to5041TOto
sound5042VVsound
a5043DTa
lot5044NNlot
like5045INlike
...5046:...
more5047RBRmore
like5048INlike
post-enactment5049NNpost-enactment
legislative5050JJlegislative
history5051NNhistory
,5052,,
if5053INif
it5054PPit
were5055VBDbe
done5056VVNdo
by5057INby
the5058DTthe
legislature5059NNlegislature
.5060SENT.
[JUSTICE KAGAN]5061LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
A5062DTa
little5063JJlittle
bit5064NNbit
harder5065RBRharder
,5066,,
but5067CCbut
that5068DTthat
's5069VBZbe
still5070RBstill
copyrightable5071JJcopyrightable
if5072INif
the5073DTthe
...5074:...
if5075INif
the5076DTthe
Commission5077NPCommission
is5078VBZbe
saying5079VVGsay
no5080RBno
,5081,,
that5082WDTthat
's5083VBZbe
an5084DTan
incorrect5085JJincorrect
interpretation5086NNinterpretation
of5087INof
law5088NNlaw
?5089SENT?
[MR. YANG]5090LOC[MR. YANG]
You5091PPyou
know5092VVPknow
,5093,,
I5094PPI
...5095:...
[JUSTICE KAGAN]5096LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
We5097PPwe
'll5098MDwill
take5099VVtake
out5100RPout
that5101DTthat
annotation5102NNannotation
?5103SENT?
[MR. YANG]5104LOC[MR. YANG]
...5105:...
I5106PPI
think5107VVPthink
because5108INbecause
the5109DTthe
Commission5110NPCommission
,5111,,
is5112VBZbe
,5113,,
again5114RBagain
,5115,,
making5116VVGmake
an5117DTan
observation5118NNobservation
with5119INwith
respect5120NNrespect
to5121TOto
what5122WPwhat
these5123DTthese
other5124JJother
parties5125NNSparty
do5126VVPdo
,5127,,
they5128PPthey
do5129VVPdo
n't5130RBn't
have5131VHhave
any5132DTany
particular5133JJparticular
expertise5134NNexpertise
,5135,,
it5136PPit
's5137VBZbe
not5138RBnot
the5139DTthe
legislature5140NNlegislature
itself5141PPitself
doing5142VVGdo
this5143DTthis
,5144,,
I5145PPI
think5146VVPthink
...5147:...
[JUSTICE KAGAN]5148LOC[JUSTICE KAGAN]
Okay5149NPOkay
.5150SENT.
Now5151RBnow
I5152PPI
'm5153VBPbe
going5154VVGgo
to5155TOto
go5156VVgo
back5157RBback
to5158TOto
Justice5159NPJustice
Gorsuch5160NPGorsuch
.5161SENT.
How5162WRBHow
about5163RBabout
the5164DTthe
legislature5165NNlegislature
?5166SENT?
[MR. YANG]5167LOC[MR. YANG]
Well5168UHWell
,5169,,
if5170INif
the5171DTthe
legislature5172NNlegislature
did5173VVDdo
that5174IN/thatthat
,5175,,
I5176PPI
think5177VVPthink
there5178EXthere
would5179MDwould
be5180VBbe
a5181DTa
question5182NNquestion
whether5183INwhether
that5184WDTthat
is5185VBZbe
part5186NNpart
of5187INof
the5188DTthe
legislative5189JJlegislative
process5190NNprocess
...5191:...
[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]5192LOC[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]
Is5193VBZbe
n't5194RBn't
that5195DTthat
...5196:...
[MR. YANG]5197LOC[MR. YANG]
...5198:...
for5199INfor
instance5200NNinstance
,5201,,
for5202INfor
...5203:...
[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]5204LOC[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]
...5205:...
is5206VBZbe
n't5207RBn't
that5208DTthat
Banks5209NNSbank
?5210SENT?
I5211PPI
mean5212VVPmean
,5213,,
is5214VBZbe
n't5215RBn't
that5216IN/thatthat
the5217DTthe
...5218:...
potentially5219RBpotentially
Justice5220NPJustice
Gorsuch5221NPGorsuch
's5222POS's
hypothetical5223JJhypothetical
,5224,,
the5225DTthe
distinction5226NNdistinction
between5227INbetween
Banks5228NPSBanks
and5229CCand
Callaghan5230NPCallaghan
or5231CCor
not5232RBnot
?5233SENT?
[MR. YANG]5234LOC[MR. YANG]
Well5235UHwell
,5236,,
I5237PPI
think5238VVPthink
Banks5239NPSBanks
...5240:...
[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]5241LOC[JUSTICE KAVANAUGH]
In5242INin
other5243JJother
words5244NNSword
,5245,,
can5246MDcan
't5247RB't
you5248PPyou
give5249VVPgive
up5250RPup
that5251IN/thatthat
hypothetical5252JJhypothetical
and5253CCand
still5254RBstill
win5255VVwin
?5256SENT?
[MR. YANG]5257LOC[MR. YANG]
I5258PPI
think5259VVPthink
we5260PPwe
could5261MDcould
give5262VVgive
it5263PPit
up5264RPup
,5265,,
but5266CCbut
let5267VVlet
me5268PPme
...5269:...
let5270VVlet
me5271PPme
take5272VVtake
a5273DTa
step5274NNstep
back5275RBback
and5276CCand
say5277VVPsay
we5278PPwe
can5279MDcan
look5280VVlook
...5281:...
start5282VVPstart
looking5283VVGlook
to5284TOto
the5285DTthe
fringes5286NNSfringe
of5287INof
this5288DTthis
case5289NNcase
,5290,,
but5291CCbut
when5292WRBwhen
we5293PPwe
look5294VVPlook
at5295INat
the5296DTthe
core5297NNcore
of5298INof
what5299WPwhat
...5300:...
what5301WPwhat
this5302DTthis
is5303VBZbe
about5304RBabout
and5305CCand
the5306DTthe
way5307NNway
that5308IN/thatthat
this5309DTthis
has5310VHZhave
arisen5311VVNarise
,5312,,
the5313DTthe
test5314NNtest
that5315IN/thatthat
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,11679,,
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code11685NNcode
,11686,,
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the11693DTthe
rule11694NNrule
that11695IN/thatthat
you11696PPyou
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.11698SENT.
And11699CCand
I11700PPI
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,11712,,
well11713RBwell
,11714,,
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look11719VVlook
at11720INat
the11721DTthe
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that11723IN/thatthat
Westlaw11724NPWestlaw
does11725VVZdo
,11726,,
there11727EXthere
's11728VBZbe
an11729DTan
indication11730NNindication
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that11732DTthat
rule11733NNrule
exists11734VVZexist
.11735SENT.
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's11737VBZbe
the11738DTthe
difference11739NNdifference
.11740SENT.
[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]11741LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]
Thank11742VVthank
you11743PPyou
,11744,,
counsel11745NNcounsel
.11746SENT.
Three11747CDThree
minutes11748NNSminute
,11749,,
Mr11750NPMr
.11751SENT.
Johnson11752NPJohnson
.11753SENT.
[MR. JOHNSON]11754LOC[MR. JOHNSON]
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the11767DTthe
OCGA11768NPOCGA
,11769,,
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'11773POS'
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.11775SENT.
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is11820VBZbe
that11821DTthat
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entirety11825NNentirety
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the11827DTthe
OCGA11828NPOCGA
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table11852NNtable
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PRO11876NNpro
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Wheaton11975NPWheaton
and11976CCand
Callaghan11977NPCallaghan
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I11980PPI
think11981VVPthink
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hold12022VVhold
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annotations12025NNSannotation
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state12027NNstate
government12028NNgovernment
employees12029NNSemployee
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and12031CCand
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commercial12109JJcommercial
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blow12118VVblow
up12119RPup
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are12124VBPbe
at12125INat
least12126JJSleast
two12127CDtwo
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claim12131VVPclaim
copyright12132NNcopyright
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decision12181NNdecision
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here12184RBhere
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come12194VVcome
from12195INfrom
Congress12196NPCongress
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the12199DTthe
courts12200NNScourt
.12201SENT.
The12202DTthe
Court12203NPCourt
should12204MDshould
reverse12205VVreverse
.12206SENT.
[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]12207LOC[CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS]
Thank12208VVthank
you12209PPyou
,12210,,
counsel12211NNcounsel
.12212SENT.
The12213DTthe
case12214NNcase
is12215VBZbe
submitted12216VVNsubmit
.12217SENT.