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be secret.
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there's no question of that.
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once he is given the kyc, he's given the details.
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you also have the application.
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the application will be having the amount for which.
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i am sorry my lords. my concern is he purchased bond number x. i by
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mistake, i put his number at purchasing bond number y. now x may have gone
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to political party a, y may have gone to political party b. why will that
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happen, mister salve?
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sbi is the number one bank in the country.
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we expect them to be able to handle this.
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if handful of people also within the bank had access to this this is the
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no, not expect to be handled.
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we were told, make sure that this doesn't leak.
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so, the way we stored the information, the bond number did not get into the
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core banking system.
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if we had been told keep information on this basis, we would have devised our
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systems accordingly.
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if we had kept it like that any senior bank officer could have found out
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bond numbers and the whole thing would have been out in public domain who has
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how much.
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all the secrecy would have gone.
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with your lordship's order.
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kind of information which would have leaked.
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assistant general manager files an affidavit in support of the application to the supreme court
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for modification an order of a constitution bench. it is a very serious matter when
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you ask for modification of an order.
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i accept that.
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i accept that.
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assistant general manager files an affidavit and tells us that, look, i'm finding it difficult.
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the information is maintained in two silos.
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he has filed the affidavit because he's the man in the spot.
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he's the person who has to do this job.
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he's the level at which the accounts are kept.
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mister salve, if you see your application, if we start at para ten, paras ten
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he said you must have the person who knows what he's talking about.
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so, give us a little time.
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we'll do it as per time.
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while your lordship is doing that, let me just show one or two things from.
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if i am not mistaken, earlier also, you had given one envelope at the time
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when the interim order was passed.
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i'm sorry, my lord. so that nothing is lost in translation.
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then we'll follow them.
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i'm sorry, i just wanted one clarification as we understand.
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my lord, may i say one thing, my lord?
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to fourteen of your application are the key to your application.
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if your lordship turns to your lordship's operative order, there's one way in which you
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may be able to resolve this.
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in (b), your lordship say - 'electoral bonds purchased the detail will include the detail
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of purchase of electoral bond, the name of purchaser and the denomination.
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this is one part, my lord. this we have.
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i mean, we can we can get this in two-three weeks.
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(c).
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my lord, i was saying something.
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yes, mister salve. if your lordship turn, there may be a way out around this.
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if your lordships turns to your lordship's order at para two hundred and twenty one,
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what you see in para ten is that it is submitted that donor details were
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page seventy six.
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yes?
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there are two parts, (b) and (c).
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if you don't have to create a bridge between the two, then within three weeks
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we can give everything.
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so, we'll declare an order.
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we'll declare an order.
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let us do it in the court itself instead of giving.
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i wanted to just, my lord, make a respectful suggestion.
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yes?
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kept.
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if your lordships see para two hundred and twenty one.
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yes?
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my lord, if (b) and (c) are not to be matched, then, my lord, we
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can give the information in three weeks.
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let me explain how.
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if we, on one hand, is 'the person who purchased the electoral bond and the
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number of bonds he purchased' - that, my lord, in two three weeks, we can
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get all the figures.
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in the second, 'the bonds encashed by the political parties, which includes the date of
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encashment and denomination' - that details we have, my lord. that also we can give
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i'm sorry.
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in three weeks, we'll put it all together.
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three weeks for what mister salve?
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my lord, these are all in the.
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because the accounts are separate, the payment has come separately and the name was kept
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separately, we will marry the two and give it.
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the political parties have already given the details of the encashments made by them.
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correct my lord.
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so that in any case is there.
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as far as b is concerned, we can give it.
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details also are already available with you.
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just give me a moment.
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i'm sorry, my lords?
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with regard to the purchasers, the donors and the details of amount they have purchased,
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these details are already available.
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yes. so that we can give, we'll just put that figures together and.
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the trouble is my lord, we understood, b and c meant that we had to
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give a complete correlation of who bought how much, how much was received, how much
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was given to whom and which bank, rather which party encashed it from which bank.
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that bridge was creating that difficulty.
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if we don't have to give that matching.
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what we'll do is we'll dictate a short, we'll dictate an order.
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