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CMV: Not everyone should have kids.
This may be the coldest take of all time.
I'm not just talking about people with clear personal issues like addiction that would be detrimental to a child's development, there are countless reasons why having kids isn't going to be in your best interest and they mostly boil down t... | Sorry, is the view that people below a certain financial threshold or who have medical issues shouldn't have kids at all, or should have *fewer* kids than they might otherwise want to have?
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Sorry, I could have probably been more clear in that part.
The point I meant was that there are real barriers to being able... | Are you saying people in certain positions should think twice, or.someone else should enforce a no-kids for you rule?
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More from a social pressure stand point of "just because you can, doesn't mean you're in a good position to do so". Especially in hetero relationships, there's an expectation that kids are on the ... | 1mqkdtm | CMV: Not everyone should have kids. | This may be the coldest take of all time.
I'm not just talking about people with clear personal issues like addiction that would be detrimental to a child's development, there are countless reasons why having kids isn't going to be in your best interest and they mostly boil down to financial or medical reasons.
I kn... | Fletcher-wordy | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: the word "incel" is a baseless insult used by people to describe a certain political affiliation.
Incel means involuntary celibate which was coined by people to describe themselves and why they are not having sex and to point out that it is no fault of their own.
Incel is now thrown around to describe people on ... | You've got it backwards. The right wing isn't associated with incels because of people using "incel" as an insult. Rather, the word "incel" itself [was appropriated by](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel) right-wing people who self-identified as incels. Eventually, the term "incel" came to be understood to refer to th... | Can you show any examples. Personally I havent seen this happening (despite being part of some left wing communities and inceltears) so I’d be curious to see a couple of examples of it being thrown around baseless.
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Anytime someone tries to advocate for a male-friendly approach to a social or legal issue, the wor... | a8pqhh | CMV: the word "incel" is a baseless insult used by people to describe a certain political affiliation. | Incel means involuntary celibate which was coined by people to describe themselves and why they are not having sex and to point out that it is no fault of their own.
Incel is now thrown around to describe people on the right even when said people don't subscribe to said ideology, much like the word cuck is thrown arou... | themarksmann | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: People insisting on being referred to by genderqueer pronouns do not want equal treatment, they want special treatment.
While I can sympathize with mtf or ftm trans people, those who identify as genderqeer or non-binary, while also insisting on being referred to as ["they", "ze", "sie", "hir", "co", or "ey"](htt... | If I call you "she" when you're a man, you might correct me and point out that "he" is a more appropriate term regarding your gender. I can then use the pronoun you prefer, or I can continue to call you "she". Likewise, there are people who don't identify as a man or a woman, and therefore it doesn't make sense from th... | If I call you a "she" instead of a "he", and you say you want me to refer to you as a "he" do **you** think you are demanding special treatment?
If not, can you explain what the difference is between you and genderqueer people?
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Trans men want to be treated like other men. It would be equal treatment to treat ... | 9fgvlr | CMV: People insisting on being referred to by genderqueer pronouns do not want equal treatment, they want special treatment. | While I can sympathize with mtf or ftm trans people, those who identify as genderqeer or non-binary, while also insisting on being referred to as ["they", "ze", "sie", "hir", "co", or "ey"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderqueer#Pronouns_and_titles) do not want equal treatment, they want special treatment. Equal tr... | JoeVacs | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist.
The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of... | The arabic word hadith can basically be translated as hearsay. Its "authenticty" depends essentially on the teller's talent and creativity, and on the willingness and interests of the hearer to believe it or not.
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So do you think its ok to pick and choose hadiths to accept? Or are you saying its better to discount... | [removed]
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"Don't mind me, just finding a good seat for the show"
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“Can you sit a bit lower, please. I can’t see over your head.” | mvqyoq | CMV: The Prophet Muhammad, claimed under Islam as the Most Moral of All Men, was a child rapist. | The hadiths make it clear that he took his wife Aisha for marriage when she was 6. Many Muhammad apologists try to say she was actually much older and the Hadiths in question can't be trusted since they aren't "the word of Allah".. even though many are first hand accounts of the girl herself. By following the logic tha... | Drewsef916 | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible.
I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
###Personal Context
>I was r... | How do you define "may not be reversible"?
Essentially what I mean is, are you a determinist? Do you think that any failure that occurs was inevitable from the outset, because that is how things were set up to go?
How do you determine whether any specific behavior by a specific individual is irreversible, and not tha... | Wait... you don't brush your teeth? Ever?
I think living life with the belief that you're never going to develop new habits is actively stopping you from creating them yourself. Stop blaming your upbringing, go out and buy a toothbrush and start brushing your teeth. Leave post-it notes for yourself as a reminder. Ince... | 6qlmnn | CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible. | I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
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>I was raised with the freedom to never have to do homework. I now have no study habits as a young adult, and cannot focus on ... | ThePathLaid | 5 | 5 | [
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I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
###Personal Context
>I was r... | > Children are meant to be instilled with good habits early on in their life. They are eager to learn, often by example, and easily impressionable.
While it's true that children that come from households with good parents statistically have better study/hygiene habits than children who do not, you have to realize it's... | How do you define "may not be reversible"?
Essentially what I mean is, are you a determinist? Do you think that any failure that occurs was inevitable from the outset, because that is how things were set up to go?
How do you determine whether any specific behavior by a specific individual is irreversible, and not tha... | 6qlmnn | CMV: I believe that the way you are raised can have long-lasting negative repercussions, that may not be reversible. | I have created this post specifically for myself and will provide personal context (as it does influence my view.) I will also provide a generalized version for discussion.
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>I was raised with the freedom to never have to do homework. I now have no study habits as a young adult, and cannot focus on ... | ThePathLaid | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV:North America should legalize prostitution to keep sex workers safe.
Legalizing prostitution will create a safer environment for sex workers and its consumers. With legalization there will be safety standards and regulations including annual health check ups which will lower the spread of STDs. It will also elimin... | This will be an easy one, because everything you just said is straight-up wrong, as we can tell from the data of western european prostitution laws.
[Study: Legalizing prostitution increases human trafficking](http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/06/17/study-legalizing-prostitution-increases-human-trafficking/)
[The law a... | Sex workers are quite often not going into the industry because they *want* to, they are forced into it through desperation from a drug addiction or some other need for money. Pimps will literally hunt down women who are at risk; runaways, people with anxiety etc. And get them hooked on drugs or alcohol. It will not pr... | 871ehj | CMV:North America should legalize prostitution to keep sex workers safe. | Legalizing prostitution will create a safer environment for sex workers and its consumers. With legalization there will be safety standards and regulations including annual health check ups which will lower the spread of STDs. It will also eliminate the criminal elements of prostitution such as physical abuse to sex wo... | miss-go | 5 | 5 | [
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CMV: Marriage and Long Term relationships are prostitution
I think that marriage and long term relationships are prostitution because they involve a man giving additional things to a woman in an attempt to get her to have sex with him. I do believe that there can be exceptions such as marriages that began as friends w... | What kind of argument or evidence could change your view?
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Evidence of the majority of married men being able to get casual sex if they want it.
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Wait... are you saying that the only reason a man marries a woman is for sex?
In this day and age, I can assure you that's not the reason. This isn't the 1930s.
M... | This post assumes 2 incredibly wrong things: sex is the foremost reason people get married, a woman only has her body to offer in a marriage.
Given that many couples practice premarital sex, sex would not be an incentive to get married. Secondly women have roles in a relationship outside of the bedroom. Depending on t... | 6xqfon | CMV: Marriage and Long Term relationships are prostitution | I think that marriage and long term relationships are prostitution because they involve a man giving additional things to a woman in an attempt to get her to have sex with him. I do believe that there can be exceptions such as marriages that began as friends with benefits arrangements and scenarios where men impregnate... | ouijblvndrwoek | 9 | 9 | [
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CMV: Marriage and Long Term relationships are prostitution
I think that marriage and long term relationships are prostitution because they involve a man giving additional things to a woman in an attempt to get her to have sex with him. I do believe that there can be exceptions such as marriages that began as friends w... | There are marriages where women are the breadwinners though... and marriages not between a man and a woman.
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Those are the exception and not the norm.
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They are [38%](https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/how-many-women-earn-more-than-their-husbands/amp/) of all marriages (where women are ... | > I think that marriage and long term relationships are prostitution because they involve a man giving additional things to a woman in an attempt to get her to have sex with him.
What exactly are men giving their wives?
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Money (although not expressed as payment), housework, miscellaneous experiences not of a se... | 6xqfon | CMV: Marriage and Long Term relationships are prostitution | I think that marriage and long term relationships are prostitution because they involve a man giving additional things to a woman in an attempt to get her to have sex with him. I do believe that there can be exceptions such as marriages that began as friends with benefits arrangements and scenarios where men impregnate... | ouijblvndrwoek | 3 | 3 | [
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CMV: White people are objectively easier to tell apart on average than Chinese people
I said this to a Chinese friend and was called racist. But I'm not even saying it's a good or bad thing, i'm just saying there is more variety of the way white people look.
But whites have multiple hair colors, multiple eye colors,... | [removed]
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This is a dumb answer because those phenotypes aren't how you tell people apart. Can you tell that Reese Witherspoon and Uma Thurman are different people despite the fact that they are both blonde blue eyed white women? | It seems rather unfair to compare people from 1 country to people from various countries. Wouldn't it make more sense to compare white people to south east asian people?
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No. The population of China is 1.3 billion | 86z70k | CMV: White people are objectively easier to tell apart on average than Chinese people | I said this to a Chinese friend and was called racist. But I'm not even saying it's a good or bad thing, i'm just saying there is more variety of the way white people look.
But whites have multiple hair colors, multiple eye colors, a bigger variety of skin tones.
White guys have way more variety of facial hair, and ... | McGonzaless | 2 | 2 | [
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CMV: Sexual liberation and casual sex has harmed women
I grew up very Catholic so it was no surprise that when I initially went to college, I was very chaste. My sophomore year of college I was exposed to "hook up culture" and in the classroom, learned about women's sexual liberation in the 60's. I was sold on the wh... | I'm sorry you feel that way, but I feel like your experiences being very limited isn't a good representation of the culture as a whole. I also think you're making the mistake of thinking that some of these experiences didn't also happen to women before now. Some men still treated women as sex objects and are just as sh... | [deleted]
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CMV: Sexual liberation and casual sex has harmed women
I grew up very Catholic so it was no surprise that when I initially went to college, I was very chaste. My sophomore year of college I was exposed to "hook up culture" and in the classroom, learned about women's sexual liberation in the 60's. I was sold on the wh... | I'm not really sure what casual sex has to do with these men being assholes. It seems like these very same men would tell women they had feelings and wanted something serious and would still be assholes to them. I dont really see how the problem is casual sex. The problem is some people being assholes.
Secondly, (and ... | > We were sleeping with these men but they didn't even see us as human beings. Sex was just like eating a sandwich to them, they didn't care where it came from. We were just sex objects for men to get off on.
> I just can't see how sexual liberation has helped women. No matter how liberated we feel, when men have casu... | 6xq7f1 | CMV: Sexual liberation and casual sex has harmed women | I grew up very Catholic so it was no surprise that when I initially went to college, I was very chaste. My sophomore year of college I was exposed to "hook up culture" and in the classroom, learned about women's sexual liberation in the 60's. I was sold on the whole idea of women's sexual liberation and casual sex: if... | dukenotredame | 7 | 7 | [
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