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You need to understand, is there any fees if I pay off early?
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How is the interest calculated?
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Welcome to CNA's Money Talks podcast.
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Now, we tend to have a lot of milestones in life.
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Marriage, a new home, further studies.
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You need funds for these.
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And we may not always have the money for these occasions, right?
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Now, we want to talk about loans because these are the things that will help you get that money.
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And before you take up a loan, there are quite a number of things that we need to consider.
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And it's overwhelming, especially if this is your first one.
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So let's enlist the help of our Money Talks guest today.
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She is Jen Ong, Head of Retail at GXS Bank.
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Jen, good to have you with us.
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We all have to take up loans, right?
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So what are the key items in a person's life cycle when a loan is a must-have and a nice-to-have?
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You started by saying that there are different milestones in someone's life.
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And I think one of the biggest one that we have seen is renovation, right?
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If you talk about marriage loan, a wedding loan, yes, you see people taking it.
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But most of the use cases that we see are renovation loans because renovation can get big.
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Now, when we think about loans, there's always this taboo about taking loans.
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But taking loans is sometimes you do need it.
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So putting the taboo aside, now you think about loans, you will think about interest rate.
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I think a lot of consumers out there are saying, hmm, which one gives me the best interest rate?
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And they make a decision based on that.
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But then you need to go into the nitty-gritty.
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You need to understand, is there any fees if I pay off early?
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__1:40-1:42.wav
How is the interest calculated?
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__1:42-1:43.wav
See, that's a big topic, right?
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__1:43-1:44.wav
How is interest calculated?
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Everybody will tell you interest is interest.
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But no, if your interest is monthly rest or daily rest, it becomes a different cost for the consumers.
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So what are the TNCs?
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So if let's say I have more money this time around, I want to pay off a little bit earlier, will I be penalized?
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And if you look at what is happening in the market, there are fees like this.
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So fees that you will be penalized if you pay early.
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Then that goes against the grain of taking a loan and being careful.
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Because if you have money to pay off a loan, you want to pay off a loan without penalty.
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So that's why you have to check the TNCs, know what you're getting into.
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And we will get into the nitty gritty, but just want to tackle the philosophical side of things first.
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How do I know what's a reasonable expense to take up a loan for?
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So you mentioned things like wedding loans, reno loans.
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These are the more common ones.
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__2:31-2:35.wav
When do I know that taking a loan is a good versus a bad idea?
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Think about the opportunity cost then, right?
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__2:38-2:41.wav
I'll give you an example, broken kitchen sink.
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Now, are you saying that, oh, I don't have the money, I don't have the means, therefore I'm going to live with a broken sink?
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So you have to take a loan because the other alternative is just not possible.
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So there are areas that you have to think about when is a good time to take a loan.
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Like I said, taking a loan is, on the surface sounds like a taboo, but if you think about it, housing loan.
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Everybody takes a housing loan.
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So housing loan is there.
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Car loan, people take a car loan.
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__3:09-3:12.wav
So these are all utilitarian needs that you have and then you need to take a loan.
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So to me, I've always tell people, if you need to take a loan, be careful what is the cost of servicing the loan.
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That's where you need to remember.
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Taking a loan is something that you have to do.
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Then make sure that you can afford it.
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One of the biggest things to think about when taking a loan is the ability to pay back.
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So I can take a loan and don't pay back and I'll be in trouble.
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__3:33-3:35.wav
Now I can take a loan and stretch it too short.
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I will not have the ability to pay back because my disposable income cannot meet that monthly repayment.
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So you have to calculate your income.
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You need to calculate what is available after you put aside for all the necessities.
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Then check out what is a repayment capability.
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If you want to pay off in 12 months, make sure you can.
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If you can't, you may have to stretch it a little bit more to 18 months, but then it makes your monthly servicing a little bit more sustainable.
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Now, when I'm shopping around for a loan, how do I make comparisons?
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What are the top three things, say, that I need to compare in order to decide what's the best kind of loan that works for me?
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So the first thing you want to look at is the interest rate.
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Now, when we talk about interest rate, you need to know whether it is, like I mentioned, a monthly res or a daily res.
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__4:24-4:26.wav
The way interest is calculated.
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So if, let's say, when we talk about monthly res is, let's say your outstanding amount is $10,000.
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And I made an early repayment of $7,000.
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So my calculation should be based on the difference of $3,000.
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But if you're on a monthly res, it doesn't happen.
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They will just look at what is your end month, what is your previous end month and interest is calculated.
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The other one would be fees.
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Is there a processing fee?
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__4:50-4:54.wav
You will hear very low interest, but then there's processing fee.
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And then you'll hear there's penalty fee.
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So those are the things that you, as a consumer, you need to take a look.
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Is there a loan that has no penalty for paying early?
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Because I've taken up a loan before and I, you know, I had the same mindset as everyone else.
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I want to pay it off early so that it's not a burden on my shoulders, not, you know, hanging around in my head all the time.
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But then there's a penalty that you have to pay because you're paying early.
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I don't understand that.
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Can you explain this to me?
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Money comes at a cost, whether you're a borrower, whether you're a lender.
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Now, I think there is a penalty fee because that money is set aside for consumers to use it.
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So there is a timeline to it that this person, for example, needs it for 12 months.
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So I can't use that money for something else because I'm lending it to this person.
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So in most financial institutions, So it's like a locked in budget.
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So there's this penalty, right?
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So if you return it to me, what am I going to do with it?
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__5:48-5:52.wav
Now, back to your question, is there a loan that has no penalty fee?
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GXS Plexi loan has no penalty fee.
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audio_chunks/XTSexe4zuN0/XTSexe4zuN0__5:56-5:57.wav
Now, why is that?
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That is because when we designed the product, we took into account consumer's lifestyle.
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I am a consumer myself.
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I have gone through different stages where I needed a loan.
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